Euro 2012 fears...

raymondo60

I'm sure I'm not the only football fan on this forum who has serious concerns about the potential for rascist abuse during Euro 2012. It would be awful if matches were halted or even abondoned because of crowd behaviour. I'm completely against any form of abuse of course and would support any action against it, but I do fear that the tournament could descend into farce, with games being cancelled left right & centre...............

jordan_217

Be positive and reacquaint yourself with the good times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9p0ExBpqeY

Frank the tank

Raymondo60 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only football fan on this forum who has serious concerns about the potential for rascist abuse during Euro 2012. It would be awful if matches were halted or even abondoned because of crowd behaviour. I'm completely against any form of abuse of course and would support any action against it, but I do fear that the tournament could descend into farce, with games being cancelled left right & centre...............

I hope there will be no abuse of players supporters. However, if there is racist abuse etc during a game I hope the ref hass the [email protected] to abandon the game; perhaps if the tourney decended into farce UEFA might think about which nations actually do get awarded these prestigeous competitions.

The Panorama programme the other week highlighted the stupidity of awarding the championships to these nations. The bidding process has to be looked at.

themekon

I think the abuse will happen. No referee will have the balls to stop the game, no players will walk off, the commentators will play it down, UEFA will admit nothing is wrong . The TV companies will still give it wall to wall coverage, the sponsors will still pour money into it even though they know the game is rotten to the core.
England will not win the tournament.
I would like to think I will be wrong on all acccounts but fear not.

humpyg

There's already been trouble, fighting and racism.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rakow.html

Aggieboy

It's already started - http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16243485

Frank the tank

I think you're right on all accounts. The only likely one which may vary is a player/players may walk off.

rick_chasey

Frank the tank wrote:

Raymondo60 wrote:

I'm sure I'm not the only football fan on this forum who has serious concerns about the potential for rascist abuse during Euro 2012. It would be awful if matches were halted or even abondoned because of crowd behaviour. I'm completely against any form of abuse of course and would support any action against it, but I do fear that the tournament could descend into farce, with games being cancelled left right & centre...............

I hope there will be no abuse of players supporters. However, if there is racist abuse etc during a game I hope the ref hass the [email protected] to abandon the game; perhaps if the tourney decended into farce UEFA might think about which nations actually do get awarded these prestigeous competitions.

Agreed.

CiB

I can just imagine England being 4-0 down v the Ukraine and ready to catch the next plane home when some oik decides that starting a bit of racist abuse is the best plan of action to get the game abandoned.

What's the plan when this happens? Match abandoned; result stands? Replay? 3-0 default in favour of the opposition? Etc. Sounds like everyone is making the right noises but the chances of a game being stopped is a bit south of remote.

Frank the tank

CiB wrote:

I can just imagine England being 4-0 down v the Ukraine and ready to catch the next plane home when some oik decides that starting a bit of racist abuse is the best plan of action to get the game abandoned.

What's the plan when this happens? Match abandoned; result stands? Replay? 3-0 default in favour of the opposition? Etc. Sounds like everyone is making the right noises but the chances of a game being stopped is a bit south of remote.

That would be a job for UEFA to sort out, no sympathy from me. They've backed themselves into a corner, IF the situation you described occured UEFA's headache. If the game is allowed to continue for 90mins with the abuse getting more prolonged/worse a different headache for UEFA.

verylonglegs

UEFA is an organisation that in the recent past decided fines of a few thousand euros is sufficient to tackle racism.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... telli.html Gives you real hope doesn't it? I can see this becoming a real issue in the next few weeks.

CiB

Frank the tank wrote:

CiB wrote:

I can just imagine England being 4-0 down v the Ukraine and ready to catch the next plane home when some oik decides that starting a bit of racist abuse is the best plan of action to get the game abandoned.

What's the plan when this happens? Match abandoned; result stands? Replay? 3-0 default in favour of the opposition? Etc. Sounds like everyone is making the right noises but the chances of a game being stopped is a bit south of remote.

That would be a job for UEFA to sort out, no sympathy from me. They've backed themselves into a corner, IF the situation you described occured UEFA's headache. If the game is allowed to continue for 90mins with the abuse getting more prolonged/worse a different headache for UEFA.

Thing is they've made it clear to the meathead fans that this is now an option, having the game stopped by an external third party that can't be considered disinterested in having the game stopped where it suits them. Strikes me as a bit of a stupid position to put themselves in, UEFA, if they intend to follow through with this.

Rigga

It will happen. Just like you always get some morons shouting out during minute silences and booing each others national anthems.

cornerblock

I think themekon has summed it up perfectly. Of course threats will be made to abandon games, but the morons who spout racial bile won't give a censored about that. The most that will happen is the players may be taken off the pitch for 10 minutes while an announcement is made, maybe the police will go in, crack a few heads and drag out some ringleaders and hope it sends out a message to any other lowlifes who wish to show how backwards they are. I just do not see games being abandoned though, Platini would then have to admit that he and the rest of UEFA have made the wrong choice.

Headhuunter

Not to mention the fact that elements within government want to make homosexuality illegal in Ukraine. There have been many attacks by neo nazis. President Viktor Yanukovych remains silent on the issue, refusing to condemn this or state that there will be no move in law to illegalise same sex relations... Whereas racism is restricted to a minority of neo fascists, anti gay sentiment actually runs through the government. Ukraine - a nasty, intolerant place....

mybreakfastconsisted

I hear that some of the families of England's black players won't be going to the Euros bacause they're worried about all the racist abuse.

Why can't the FA just book John Terry into a different hotel?

Rigga

mybreakfastconsisted wrote:

I hear that some of the families of England's black players won't be going to the Euros bacause they're worried about all the racist abuse.

Why can't the FA just book John Terry into a different hotel?

Redhog14

My fear is that I will be bored to death by it all. I used to have such a great level of anticpation around the euros and world cup, i used to take time off work just to watch them, host big parties etc.. now i dont even remember who won that last couple without thinking hard and can't name more than a handful of key players.

Ron Stuart

Guess it's Soccer's cross to bear that being very popular it just attracts the extreme dross to have the light shone on them. They live off the controversy that follows this behaviour, the media is their window to the world, and soccer is just the unfortunate host to these parasites because so many people watch the game. :evil:

daviesee

themekon wrote:

I think the abuse will happen. No referee will have the balls to stop the game, no players will walk off, the commentators will play it down, UEFA will admit nothing is wrong . The TV companies will still give it wall to wall coverage, the sponsors will still pour money into it even though they know the game is rotten to the core.
England will not win the tournament.
I would like to think I will be wrong on all acccounts but fear not.

+1
UEFA has it's head in the sand/up it's ar$e - you choose. They will do nothing meaningful.

Big Hairy Wallapers

Just chill out and relax.
Football fans have long since vented their opinions, I can't recall too many games being cancelled in the past because not everyone agreed with each other.
Get over and enjoy the game.
You never know there may even be some entertaining games and heaven forbid some people may even enjoy themselves.
Whatever next??

Frank the tank

Fact is, it's not really a football problem it's a society problem/issue for Poland and Ukraine. These issues have not just raised their heads though, they've been there for many years.

UEFA don't live in a bubble they MUST have been aware of the racist/anti-semetic faction but it's all about sweeteners and money. If it weren't for the effect it would have on individual players I really wish it would blow up in all their money grabbing, greedy faces.