Two years ban up for Dan Staite...
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...at the beginning of May I believe.
It was the story that shook the Amateur racing ranks a couple of years ago. Anybody know (or can Dan himself say) if he intends to return to racing? Moreover if he did return would he be accepted back into the ranks as pro's are (admittedly on the surface at least) or was it an unforgivable act in amateur racing?
It was the story that shook the Amateur racing ranks a couple of years ago. Anybody know (or can Dan himself say) if he intends to return to racing? Moreover if he did return would he be accepted back into the ranks as pro's are (admittedly on the surface at least) or was it an unforgivable act in amateur racing?
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His mistake was to give some Rapha lads a kicking and catch the eye of Herety who reported it. A big victory for the BC anti-doping system, apparently :roll:
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Yeah, apparently Park Run doesn't give a censored that he's banned from all competition. They like drugs cheats.
Getting into semantics here, but you know what I mean.
My gripe is with BC claiming to have a credible anti-doping system at an amateur level, when in fact it doesn't, you just have to arouse the suspicions of someone with a bit of influence before anything happens, and some riders seem to make a decent go at avoiding this. If there's daft lads in gyms taking quality PEDs (and they're cheap, especially round here) cyclists are doing it, and every region has a hardcore of a few dodgy riders. One lad getting caught out is just the tip of the iceberg in my opinion.
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Would the ban have covered running as well? If so it takes a pretty thick skinned person not only to rock up and compete but win the event as well.
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Yes all WADA sports, however park run does not operate under UK Athletics, so they would set their own rules, and apparently welcome banned dopers.
I guess that answers my question. If he is that desperate to compete I'm sure he'll be lining up in some 10 or chipper shortly.
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The response on twitter was that they specifically welcome anyone, I'm still waiting the fuller response via email.
It would be impossible - but it's rather different trying to stop someone taking part, and lauding their achievements in "winning" an event, it would be very simply for them to say "unknown runner" in the results or "Removed as currently serving a ban under world doping rules". It's interesting as anyone who has a BC race licence, or is a member of UK Athletics or any other organisation which requires you to sign up to the WADA code. And one of the responsibilities contain within that code on athletes is "To use their influence on Athlete values and behavior to foster anti-doping attitudes.". It's my belief that by not supporting UKAD bans, and facillitating continued outlets for convicted dopers to compete that anyone who does that is not meeting their WADA obligations.
It would also be a simple case to bring the park run under UKAD, and that way enforcement is brought about because anyone who then competes would have their ban extended for entering whilst banned - there would be no need for any management on Parkruns part at all.
Nope, you'd be completely fine - there's some confusion if it's a race with a winner, or a timed event though, in many places park run specifically avoid any discussion of it being a race, saying it's only a timed event. However they then publish and celebrate winners.
I think the same could be said for some 'sportives'
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My original observation was that a Dan Staite had won an event. I have no way of knowing if that was the Dan Staite.
Bit of a b*mmer, if you happen to be a totally different Dan Staite. You participate in parkrun in all innocence, then the mighty forces of WADA crash down upon you. Possibly.
Yes of course, But it would by UKAD establishing the proof - the same as if a banned athlete entered a CTT event or Club 10. It's not the responsibility of the organiser to obtain proof of identity of individuals and prove that they are not banned.
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Apologies in that case. At the time I was racing seriously and pally with a couple of Rapha lads from up this way who'd said Herety had potted him, obviously there was an outside source but not him if BC had been targeting earlier, just coincidence I guess! Why did it take so long to test him out of curiosity?
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I think the hate towards him is as much about how much of a knob he came across as in the aftermath.
And I suspect there are plenty of amateur racers, 2nd Cats even, doing similar and getting away with it.
It'd be a sad day when a second cat gets busted for doing EPO!!
I really think that there needs to be some very occasional, randomised testing done at races (they may already do this - but I've never seen any sign of it?). I know the cost is high, but hitting 5-6 races per year and testing the top ten riders plus some others at random would be enough to bring any serious doping to a halt as the pay off for doping is relatively small (kudos, a small amount of prize money which is in all likelihood outweighed by the cost of the drugs), and the cost of being caught is very high (mostly the social cost - see Dan Staite and the general ridicule there).
Obviously the cost of this in terms of how the sport is seen is potentially high if there were several people busted, but less of a problem than amateurs being put in a position where they feel the need to dope to compete and the gradual escalation which seems inevitable from the current scenario. This damage could be mitigated by British Cycling making it clear that it was about to start testing people at random to discourage potential dopers.
FWIW, I think that Dan Staite should be allowed to return to the sport having served his time - although obviously with an eye to testing him at random events as an obvious high risk individual.
That's nothing...my mate is called David Millar - you can imagine the fun when he emailed British Cycling to ask about their Olympic Development Program
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