I have no idea about what I am doing

p9uma
p9uma Posts: 565
edited March 2012 in Road beginners
With regards to most thing but in particular road cycling and road bikes and so on. I do the the research and end up being more confused about what I'm researching than before I started.

Here's the thing WHEELS.

I've got a 2010 caad 9 all the research at the time said this was a good road bike to get me started, though I was told to change the tyres and maybe late change the wheels.

So if I want to change the wheels what do I change them to? Clearly there is no point on spending 2k on wheels for a bike that only cost half of that. So what would be a good upgrade? should I upgrade at?

Your thoughts?

Ta
Trek Madone 3.5
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  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    Shimano S80's??

    Mavic Kyserium??
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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    What is wrong with your current wheels? What sort of riding do you do?
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    smidsy wrote:
    Shimano S80's??

    Mavic Kyserium??

    I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you guessing what wheels I have got or suggesting which wheels I should upgrade to?

    There are Shimanos on the bike at the moment but I can find a model number on them.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    NapoleonD wrote:
    What is wrong with your current wheels? What sort of riding do you do?

    Good questions. I don't think there is anything wrong with the wheels I've got on the bike, but it seemed to be a consensus that the wheels could be upgraded, for all sorts of technical reasons way beyond my understanding. It's probable I don't need new wheels at all, but if I did they need to be in keeping with rest of the bike don't they?

    The riding I do ATM is on main roads and country roads, usually on my own and I'm trying to get in 100 miles a week whilst I build up my strength. I ride for enjoyment and to help me keep fit, I will be doing 2/3 sportive this year just for the fun of it though, to give me something to aim for.
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  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    Shimano S80's??

    Mavic Kyserium??

    +1. Planet-X Model Bs or Pro-Lite Braccianos on a budget.

    I put Braccianos on my CAAD5 and it was money well spent. Bike accelerates and climbs a lot better now. All those wheels are around the 1500-1600g mark, commonly road bikes come with 1900g(ish) sets unless you get lucky or pay a lot more.
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  • Rigga
    Rigga Posts: 939
    Save your money if there's nothing wrong with the wheels you've got.
  • MichaelW
    MichaelW Posts: 2,164
    Original wheels are probably Shimano RS10 but the spec can sometimes change.
    If you dont mind, how much do you weight. Do you ride like a sack of spuds or dance like a light-footed fairy.
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    I would only change bike components if they break or you need improved performance (or if you really want to spend money on something shiny). If you are happy with the bike and it is in good working order why change anything?
  • Wirral_paul
    Wirral_paul Posts: 2,476
    As above, your current wheels are likely Shimano RS10 which weigh in at a rather lardy 2kg. Some Shimano RS80's (or similar) will save you around 450-475g, mostly rotating weight at the rim which is where it really matters. This will make your bike feel more lively and accelerate a bit better - probably make the bike feel more "fun" to ride.

    Whether its worth the upgrade is totally down to you. Most of us dont "need" upgrades but buy because we "want" upgrades and enjoy riding the bike more. For me, i'm more likely to get out and ride a bike if I enjoy it more so thats all the justification needed really (plus its better for you than spending the same cash down the pub!!).

    If you think you'll enjoy riding the bike more then go for it - the enjoyment of getting out there on the bike is what its all about after all! 8) 8)
  • Zoomer37
    Zoomer37 Posts: 725
    Save your money and buy some new wheels when you know why you need new wheels.
  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    unixnerd wrote:
    Shimano S80's??

    Mavic Kyserium??

    +1. Planet-X Model Bs or Pro-Lite Braccianos on a budget.

    I put Braccianos on my CAAD5 and it was money well spent. Bike accelerates and climbs a lot better now. All those wheels are around the 1500-1600g mark, commonly road bikes come with 1900g(ish) sets unless you get lucky or pay a lot more.

    I shall investigate and research these suggestions. Thank you.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    Rigga wrote:
    Save your money if there's nothing wrong with the wheels you've got.


    This is a good point and I may well do that, however I like to know what my options are and the cost versus benefit.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    MichaelW wrote:
    Original wheels are probably Shimano RS10 but the spec can sometimes change.
    If you dont mind, how much do you weight. Do you ride like a sack of spuds or dance like a light-footed fairy.

    My weight is 179 lbs, and going down. I ride like a bag of new potatoes and occasionally dance like Fred Astaire.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    nathancom wrote:
    I would only change bike components if they break or you need improved performance (or if you really want to spend money on something shiny). If you are happy with the bike and it is in good working order why change anything?

    Your words are wise, you clearly have wisdom beyond your years, but I do like new shiny things just cos I can. However on the subject of wheels, I wouldn't know where to to begin with regards to a sensible cost / benefit investment with the caad 9.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    As above, your current wheels are likely Shimano RS10 which weigh in at a rather lardy 2kg. Some Shimano RS80's (or similar) will save you around 450-475g, mostly rotating weight at the rim which is where it really matters. This will make your bike feel more lively and accelerate a bit better - probably make the bike feel more "fun" to ride.

    Whether its worth the upgrade is totally down to you. Most of us dont "need" upgrades but buy because we "want" upgrades and enjoy riding the bike more. For me, i'm more likely to get out and ride a bike if I enjoy it more so thats all the justification needed really (plus its better for you than spending the same cash down the pub!!).

    If you think you'll enjoy riding the bike more then go for it - the enjoyment of getting out there on the bike is what its all about after all! 8) 8)


    Thanks for the information I'll do some research on the wheels and make an informed decision. I like the idea that new wheels may make the bike more fun to ride.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    Zoomer37 wrote:
    Save your money and buy some new wheels when you know why you need new wheels.


    That's far to simple advice for me. What's the point of a forum if you can't find out more information to make ones life more complicated about buying something which one didn't know one needed.
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  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    p9uma wrote:
    Your words are wise, you clearly have wisdom beyond your years, but I do like new shiny things just cos I can.

    I'm curious, how do you know how old nathancom is? You remind me of......

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  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    I am not very wise either - I buy shiny things that I don't really 'need' all the time. :D
  • ineedalager
    ineedalager Posts: 374
    Do what I did my Specialised Allez was a budget entry level bike which I got cheaper because I bought it in the 2011 sale when the new 2012 models come out. I found it hard to justify spending almost the price of the bike again on wheels so I kooked on the classifieds ads on here and got an almost new set of Mavic Aksiums for £100 and the guy threw in some continetal ultra sport tyres for free.

    If Mavic Aksiums are good enough for standard equipment on the Boardman carbon £1,300 bike then there good enough to go on my £429 Spesh.

    They look good feel better than the standard Mavic CXP 22s and I going a bit faster wether it's down to just the wheels I don't know but I saved a packet buying secondhand oh here wheels come up for sale all the time in the classifieds on here.
  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    Do what I did my Specialised Allez was a budget entry level bike which I got cheaper because I bought it in the 2011 sale when the new 2012 models come out. I found it hard to justify spending almost the price of the bike again on wheels so I kooked on the classifieds ads on here and got an almost new set of Mavic Aksiums for £100 and the guy threw in some continetal ultra sport tyres for free.

    If Mavic Aksiums are good enough for standard equipment on the Boardman carbon £1,300 bike then there good enough to go on my £429 Spesh.

    They look good feel better than the standard Mavic CXP 22s and I going a bit faster wether it's down to just the wheels I don't know but I saved a packet buying secondhand oh here wheels come up for sale all the time in the classifieds on here.


    Ta. Good advice, I'll do that.
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  • rpd_steve
    rpd_steve Posts: 361
    Until midnight today you can get a brand new set of Mavic Aksiums from Merlyn cycles for £125.
  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    RPD Steve wrote:
    Until midnight today you can get a brand new set of Mavic Aksiums from Merlyn cycles for £125.


    Can you indeed, that sounds interesting, are they any good?
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  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    p9uma wrote:
    RPD Steve wrote:
    Until midnight today you can get a brand new set of Mavic Aksiums from Merlyn cycles for £125.


    Can you indeed, that sounds interesting, are they any good?

    Yes
  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    They seem to be 144.95.
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  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    unixnerd wrote:
    They seem to be 144.95.

    Minus an extra 10% Until midnight which 130.45 I believe.
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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    They are ok for a set of training/winter wheels... don't be under any illusion that they will transform your riding.. they won't.... oh as they go out of true at the mere sight of a pothole.. ..
  • p9uma
    p9uma Posts: 565
    JGSI wrote:
    They are ok for a set of training/winter wheels... don't be under any illusion that they will transform your riding.. they won't.... oh as they go out of true at the mere sight of a pothole.. ..

    I read some interesting reviews about them, on this site and an American site. Not all good, and they have, apparently a lot of coasting noise. I don't have that with my current wheels, I'm not sure if that is good or bad but for that reason alone I'm out.
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  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    nathancom wrote:
    I am not very wise either - I buy shiny things that I don't really 'need' all the time. :D
    its george osborne. :!:
  • Have we not all overlooked the other bit of advice which is to change / upgrade your tyres (and tubes) and then your wheels. What about getting some new lighter weight / better rubber and see how you go or have you already sorted that side of things out ?
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  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    rake wrote:
    nathancom wrote:
    I am not very wise either - I buy shiny things that I don't really 'need' all the time. :D
    its george osborne. :!:
    If I was George Osborne, I would take the honourable way out...