Alivio or Deore?

rolf_f

bennett_346 wrote:

I retract my statement. I'm simply amazed anyone is willing to pay for suntour equipment, especially at a greater cost than new deore would be.

I'm not sure how an average of £10 per mech is more expensive than one mech for £30 odd but anyway......

Suntour made the best derailleurs you could buy in the 70s and early 80s - the Superbe was known to be a better mech than Campagnolo Record. Suntour invented the slant parallelogram derailleur and even now Shimano struggles to make a derailleur that is much lighter than the Suntour Cyclones or Superbes of the 70s and 80s - eg see here: http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Sun ... 00%29.html

Sadly, when they were then taken over in the 1990s all the old tooling was scrapped - the products that followed had nothing in common with the previous Suntour aside from the name. So the Suntour you know is not the Suntour that made the mechs that I bought.

It's an interesting but somewhat sad history - but don't tar the old stuff with the same brush. It really is pretty nice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunTour

cooldad

Ouija wrote:

Go with the Alivio. Had about three on my 8 speed bikes with 26-26-48 and 28-38-48 touring gears. Got over 22,000 miles out of them so they can't be that bad (compared to the cheaper acera). Got Deore on both of those bikes at the moment and they are equally as good but come across as a bit flimsier (but gear shifting is pretty much the same).

Er he's gone. Missed a few posts?

bennett_346

Rolf F wrote:

bennett_346 wrote:

I retract my statement. I'm simply amazed anyone is willing to pay for suntour equipment, especially at a greater cost than new deore would be.

I'm not sure how an average of £10 per mech is more expensive than one mech for £30 odd but anyway......

Wasn't how you worded the post, nevermind.

rolf_f

bennett_346 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

bennett_346 wrote:

I retract my statement. I'm simply amazed anyone is willing to pay for suntour equipment, especially at a greater cost than new deore would be.

I'm not sure how an average of £10 per mech is more expensive than one mech for £30 odd but anyway......

Wasn't how you worded the post, nevermind.

Well - £15 for the used front and rear and £15.50 for the unused front gives a total = £30.50 for all three; pretty much what I said. Hope you read the Suntour stuff; it was a good company.

supersonic

I'm simply amazed anyone is willing to pay for suntour equipment,

You tried this stuff?

bennett_346

supersonic wrote:

I'm simply amazed anyone is willing to pay for suntour equipment,

You tried this stuff?

I used to have it on a bike yearssss back, but to be fair i was young at the time!

tarbot18

Brand snobs make me laugh with their wise words on items they dont own havent used touched ridden etc etc. i regularly ride past people with 3 grand superbikes with their fox gear on my grand fs with suntour forks and yet they cant catch me weird huh........

kammybear

But how much faster would you be going on their bike?

tarbot18

Damn you kammybear dont be giving me ideas dont think i can afford another divorce.............

benpinnick

Should have got a pauls mech in rasta colours I reckon. Thats old skool cool.

cooldad

Bit pricier than a Deore though. Worth as much as my bike.

benpinnick

Nah, your bike is worth more than a deore mech. Maybe.

rolf_f

benpinnick wrote:

Should have got a pauls mech in rasta colours I reckon. Thats old skool cool.

I had no idea you could make derailleurs out of Lego

(interesting site, disraeligears, isn't it - at least, in a hopelessly anal but compelling way......)

SunSponge

bennett_346 wrote:

How is this even a question? Choose the one you want and are willing to pay for.

Wow... what a jacka**. The guy asks a simple question and you are beyond rude.

Sorry your life sucks that much you have to spread it like a disease.

cooldad

SunSponge wrote:

bennett_346 wrote:

How is this even a question? Choose the one you want and are willing to pay for.

Wow... what a jacka**. The guy asks a simple question and you are beyond rude.

Sorry your life sucks that much you have to spread it like a disease.

Wow... what a jackass.

Can't even spell it.

But seriously, a three year old post just to insult someone. You should meet Cody.

bennett_346

SunSponge wrote:

bennett_346 wrote:

How is this even a question? Choose the one you want and are willing to pay for.

Wow... what a jacka**. The guy asks a simple question and you are beyond rude.

Sorry your life sucks that much you have to spread it like a disease.

Did someone sh!t in your knickers this morning?

Stop crying over my post and use the tears as lube to w@nk yourself into a happier mood.