Milan San Remo

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  • thamacdaddy
    thamacdaddy Posts: 590
    Really thought chavenel was looking good for trying a long lonely ride off the poggio.

    Sagan/Frierre shown some early season alertness.

    As a Sky fan I am hoping they can boss it and deliver a world champ jersey win but would be happier if they can't turn it into that kind of bore fest then a really exciting break.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??

    Wasn't that being said before Cavendish won?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??

    Wasn't that being said before Cavendish won?

    It's still applicable isn't it?

    We know Hushovd will find it difficult, as he always does after 200km.
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  • Art Vandelay
    Art Vandelay Posts: 1,982
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??

    Stage 4 Tirreno Adriatico 2012. 251km. Won by P. Sagan

    He can definitely do it.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's still applicable isn't it?

    Not sure, how old was Cavendish when he won, 23? Sagan is 22, really do see why he can't win it.
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    We know Hushovd will find it difficult, as he always does after 200km.

    And Hushovd has finished in the top 10 four times and on the podium twice. Think he can win it, but maybe not this year. He hasn't really shown any form at all.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    Art Vandelay wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??

    Stage 4 Tirreno Adriatico 2012. 251km. Won by P. Sagan

    He can definitely do it.


    250km in Tirenno?!?!

    Man.

    Fair enough.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??

    Is there any reason why not? I'mk not going to put any mony on him but it seems like a few of the big names are not at 100%, he's got a reasonable shot....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    ddraver wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Do we really think Sagan can do it over 200km?

    Is there anything to suggest he can?

    Has he even raced over 200km??

    Is there any reason why not? I'mk not going to put any mony on him but it seems like a few of the big names are not at 100%, he's got a reasonable shot....

    Yeah.

    I'll be honest, the races he's won in I haven't really watched.

    Hence my scepticism.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,096
    I think Sagan is a real talent but, so far in his career, he's never really delivered when all the big names are racing and in form. Until he does, and Saturday may just be that day, then it's natural for people to be a little sceptical.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Could be an interesting indicate for Sky - If Cav is not 100% are they going to release JAF and EBH to have their own cracks. Not sure Flecha has enough of a jump on him, but if EBH were to get over the last few climbs in a small group of classics hardmen (Canc, Di Luca, Boonen etc...) there are few that could challenge him in the sprint.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    andyp wrote:
    I think Sagan is a real talent but, so far in his career, he's never really delivered when all the big names are racing and in form. Until he does, and Saturday may just be that day, then it's natural for people to be a little sceptical.

    Quite :)
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I think Sagan is a real talent but, so far in his career, he's never really delivered when all the big names are racing and in form. Until he does, and Saturday may just be that day, then it's natural for people to be a little sceptical.

    Quite :)

    Depends if you re a glass half full/half empty kinda guy
    ;)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    ddraver wrote:
    Depends if you re a glass half full/half empty kinda guy
    ;)

    I'm a "the glass is too big" sort of person...
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    ddraver wrote:
    Could be an interesting indicate for Sky - If Cav is not 100% are they going to release JAF and EBH to have their own cracks.

    Is Flecha even riding, says here he's making his return on March 21st.

    http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290, ... 98,00.html

    Also like the bit where he says...
    Juan Antonio Flecha wrote:
    The fracture was smooth and I was even able to ride home after I’d done it.

    :shock:
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    ....totally missed that, what happened to him? :oops:
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    No idea, other that what's in that news story. There was an item on Cyclingnews which is where I saw it first, but I can't find it, hence the one off the Sky website.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/11355 ... cture.aspx
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    May I be so bold to suggest that Boonen won't do so well if the weather is good...?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    Belgians / Belgian teams will be wearing black armbands in light of the bus crash in Switzerland.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    Also, Hushovd's out with a fever.

    Goss has been ill the past couple days too.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,533
    Greipel on Sagan:
    "I am indeed not a sprinter who pushes and pulls, but is that necessary? When I see other guys, sometimes I think they are crazy,” Greipel said. “If I am pushed toward a barrier, I'm on the brakes and not going for the smallest hole. I would not fall.”

    Not all riders think of their safety, Greipel notes, and he feels that the rider who takes the most risks “must surely be (Peter) Sagan. He is still young and sometimes crazy. That is the difference between younger and older riders.”

    There is no point in trying to address the issue with Sagan, Greipel said. "He does not speak English. What can I tell him? I've tried. He does some stupid things in the sprint. That's not smart, but it is so. "

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/greipel ... n-san-remo
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  • Art Vandelay
    Art Vandelay Posts: 1,982
    Can't recall any risky moves from Sagan myself.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    May I be so bold to suggest that Boonen won't do so well if the weather is good...?

    Might as well start cranking up the tea and sympathy now - forecast for Saturday is 8 - 11 degrees, partly cloudy, slight tailwind from North East.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,811
    Lampre not without their problems, either. Cunego sugns up:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cunego- ... n-san-remo
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Art Vandelay wrote:
    Can't recall any risky moves from Sagan myself.

    +1 was thinking exactly this. Sour grapes from Greipel for some reason.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Latest odds: http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports ... emo/winner

    Cav looks good value to me at 4/1. Surely we'd expect him to win 1 in 5 years, after a decent start to the season, obvious focus on MSR and form/health concerns about many who would be expected to challenge him.

    I've convinced myself even more now, I'm tempted to top up!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,147
    Hurrah! It looks like I'll be able to see this race live for the first time ever. My hockey game's been switched to a morning start - a convenient by-product of Wales going for a Grand Slam. Now all I have to do is persuade the pub to put Eurosport on instead of the rugby.


    (Only joking - I have Eurosport at home. I will be channel hopping though).
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    A clubmate with connections to the upper levels of the British racing world, sent me this tonight.
    Side stepping slightly, word on the street is that Cav is in good form for this race, this has come from Sky’s coaching personnel Manchester last week.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    proto wrote:
    A clubmate with connections to the upper levels of the British racing world, sent me this tonight.
    Side stepping slightly, word on the street is that Cav is in good form for this race, this has come from Sky’s coaching personnel Manchester last week.

    Ok so translating from Skyspeak that means he could be anywhere between having both legs amputated to being on top form and fully juiced on the latest undetectable wonder drug....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver

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