Be honest,would you pass.

Frank the tank

I don't know the rules and regs, or what substances are on the UCI banned list.

If the authorities were to swoop and give you a random drug test do you think you would pass?

Being asthmatic and some of the prescription drugs (pain killers) I take I'm pretty sure I'd fail.

rick_chasey

Frank the tank wrote:

I don't know the rules and regs, or what substances are on the UCI banned list.

If the authorities were to swoop and give you a random drug test do you think you would pass?

Being asthmatic and some of the prescription drugs (pain killers) I take I'm pretty sure I'd fail.

I doubt I'd be able to pee in front of a load of testers on demand.

pdstsp

I remember years ago I was secretary of my rugby club when they first issued a banned list. There were several pages - it was frightening and I don't think we would ever have been able to field a clean side!! So many over the counter products were on it, as well as the usual prescription stuff. Mind you we were absolutley sh1te so nobody ever came to test us.

shinyhelmut

Well I ate some Chinese beef last night so I might get pinged for clenbuterol.

solosuperia

Some time ago I remember staying at Albert Beurick's place in Belgium for the first time, on going off to ride in the Oodenaarde GP he filled my bidon with the blackest strongest coffee laced with honey.
I objected not because I was aware of the caffiene content, I just didn't like my coffee so strong. Indeed it wasn't till a few years later, when the more mundane substances were highlighted as performance enhancing I realised why my bidon was filled with rocket fuel disguised as coffee!

A few years on when getting up I have to kickstart my day with about half a litre of strong(I do mean strong) coffee.
Thanks Albert!

I seem to remember a few years back a rider in the 12 or 24hr national TT, somewhere down the field was a rider a random selection for drugs testing and he failed .....Quite innocently he had been drinking Coke or Pepsi with no concept that he was doing anything untoward.

ddmrcp

You would fail. But there is increasing recognition that super elite athletes have medical problems as well
A colleague of mine was working as the specialist medic team in charge of a GB olympic swimmer who is widely publicised to have bad asthma and the athelete needs to use the same sort of class of meds that the CSA got contador for.......
I think there is a move towards doping committees recognising this as well, but still long way away.

Pross

To be honest, at my level I would rather take the medication to get well and risk the chance of a positive. If you are on prescribed medication for the likes of asthama then you would just get a certificate.

MaxwellBygraves

Frank the tank wrote:

I don't know the rules and regs, or what substances are on the UCI banned list.

If the authorities were to swoop and give you a random drug test do you think you would pass?

Being asthmatic and some of the prescription drugs (pain killers) I take I'm pretty sure I'd fail.

Pass.

CambsNewbie

I had a steak in Barcelona a few years ago so I'm guessing it would be a no.

Didn't seem to loose any weight or go any faster though..

Frank the tank

Pross wrote:

To be honest, at my level I would rather take the medication to get well and risk the chance of a positive. If you are on prescribed medication for the likes of asthama then you would just get a certificate.

I appreciate a lot of us on here probably don't compete at a level where drugs are tested for, I don't compete at all, it was just a question do you think you would pass/fail such a test.

Pross

Frank the tank wrote:

Pross wrote:

To be honest, at my level I would rather take the medication to get well and risk the chance of a positive. If you are on prescribed medication for the likes of asthama then you would just get a certificate.

I appreciate a lot of us on here probably don't compete at a level where drugs are tested for, I don't compete at all, it was just a question do you think you would pass/fail such a test.

I'm pretty certain I would pass as I don't use any medication or supplements other than the occassional paracetamol. If I had a particularly bad cold I might use some Flu Plus or similar but wouldn't be racing. I believe that if you are on prescribed medication you can apply for an exemption - if I was in that position I would be checking the BC list as they do test at grass roots level occassionally. I have done a race where there was testing, strangely they didn't bother with me as I got dropped but they did pick up a Welsh international who got a short ban for apparently using a hayfever treatment.

morstar

I would have to get an exemption for asthma medication.

However, thsi leads me to share the following. I actually feel embarrassed about taking my asthma medication prior to any sort of cycling race despite my modest performances.

With high profile abusers of asthma medication in the pro peloton, I can't help but feel other competitors must be wondering if I'm just some clown trying to gain an advantage.

sheffsimon

morstar wrote:

I would have to get an exemption for asthma medication.

However, thsi leads me to share the following. I actually feel embarrassed about taking my asthma medication prior to any sort of cycling race despite my modest performances.

With high profile abusers of asthma medication in the pro peloton, I can't help but feel other competitors must be wondering if I'm just some clown trying to gain an advantage.

You are to be applauded for your moral stance mate, but I think you will probably find other competitors dont give a rat's ass

Yossie

I think that SheffSimon is exactly correct. They neither notice nor care I am afraid.

The question should be: not withstanding medicinal related failures, are you actually utterly boring if you do pass clean?

Pross

SheffSimon wrote:

morstar wrote:

I would have to get an exemption for asthma medication.

However, thsi leads me to share the following. I actually feel embarrassed about taking my asthma medication prior to any sort of cycling race despite my modest performances.

With high profile abusers of asthma medication in the pro peloton, I can't help but feel other competitors must be wondering if I'm just some clown trying to gain an advantage.

You are to be applauded for your moral stance mate, but I think you will probably find other competitors dont give a rat's ass

They sometimes look a bit funny at me when I get my drip kit out and hang up the fresh pint of blood but are usually too polite to say anything

shinyhelmut

Frank the tank wrote:

Pross wrote:

To be honest, at my level I would rather take the medication to get well and risk the chance of a positive. If you are on prescribed medication for the likes of asthama then you would just get a certificate.

I appreciate a lot of us on here probably don't compete at a level where drugs are tested for, I don't compete at all, it was just a question do you think you would pass/fail such a test.

On a serious note if I was competing remotely seriously then I would restrict myself to eating vegetarian here (I'm in Singapore at the moment) and various other places I visit with work. I am confident that I do not deliberately ingest any illicit substances.

t.m.h.n.e.t

If caffeine and good intentions trigger a fail,I'd be jailed.

Other than that I never have any need for prescription/overcounter stuff thankfully.

amaferanga

SoloSuperia wrote:

Some time ago I remember staying at Albert Beurick's place in Belgium for the first time, on going off to ride in the Oodenaarde GP he filled my bidon with the blackest strongest coffee laced with honey.
I objected not because I was aware of the caffiene content, I just didn't like my coffee so strong. Indeed it wasn't till a few years later, when the more mundane substances were highlighted as performance enhancing I realised why my bidon was filled with rocket fuel disguised as coffee!

A few years on when getting up I have to kickstart my day with about half a litre of strong(I do mean strong) coffee.
Thanks Albert!

I seem to remember a few years back a rider in the 12 or 24hr national TT, somewhere down the field was a rider a random selection for drugs testing and he failed .....Quite innocently he had been drinking Coke or Pepsi with no concept that he was doing anything untoward.

Must have been a good few years back because caffeine hasn't been on the prohibited list since 2004.

Matt the Tester

why whose asking!?

term1te

I once signed up for a charity relay half marathon, 6 of us ran about 2 miles each. I woke up with a bad dose of man flu could hardly breath, so I downed the contents of the medicine cabinet and ran my 2 miles. Felt like death the whole way around and was paranoid I'd be tested for drugs at the end. I think the caffeine and ephedrine caused the paranoia. I was shaking and my heart rate stayed sky high for a couple of hours after the run. I won't do that again.

Apart from that I should pass OK, although there are some German labs that can find almost anything anywhere.

Stone Glider

My tablets to treat high blood pressure contain Hydrochlorothiazide which is a diuretic, also a banned substance thanks to it's use as a 'masking agent' flushing out other 'naughty' medications. When I found out it made me feel quite 'edgy' for all of five seconds.

SBezza

Very confident I would pass, I was tested by UKAD back in 2010 at the National 100m TT, I passed with no issues. I don't use any medication that is on the banned list.

fossyant

I'd fail big time. Just had four steroid injections in my left shoulder/back. Some more in 3 months.

kev77

Just checked my supplement cupboard, i have both approved and non approved IOC supplements.

Just realised now why one of the trainers from the rugby club asks in the same shop where we purchase sport supplements a million questions about the range from all the different types of protein to creatine etc etc.

So as when they get p*ss tested there are no questions to answer! might have to start listening a tad more to the conversation! ha ha!

Zingzang

fossyant wrote:

I'd fail big time. Just had four steroid injections in my left shoulder/back. Some more in 3 months.

Did you know that repeated corticosteroid injections in the same area can soften tendons and make them far more susceptible to further injury in the long term? My advice would be to think twice before agreeing to have more, regardless of the reason.

gasman_dave

If you are asthmatic, fair enough. The number of sportspeople who are on theophyllines seems worrying as this is usually only used as second line in severe asthmatics and not world class athletes. Diabetes seems very common too as insulin is anabolic in its actions (not including Mr Redgrave in this). Both these drugs will improve performance but are legal if accompanied with a medical certificate.

MattC59

I'm sure my crack habit would result in a failure !!

Eyorerox

I was expecting this

wjcrombie

ddmrcp wrote:

You would fail. But there is increasing recognition that super elite athletes have medical problems as well
A colleague of mine was working as the specialist medic team in charge of a GB olympic swimmer who is widely publicised to have bad asthma and the athelete needs to use the same sort of class of meds that the CSA got contador for.......
I think there is a move towards doping committees recognising this as well, but still long way away.

I am not a pro athlete, but there is something called a Thereputic Use Exception (TUE) that should be applied to the above scenarios, meaning peopple can take treatment for "normal" health problems like most normal people do.

the interesting aside to that though is that i have seen suggestions in articles that the number of professional athletes with TUE's is disproprtionate to the general population, which leads you to the conclusion that professional athletes have very delicate constitutions or that they are using TUE's to play the system.....

B3rnieMac

since i'm currently taking ECA.........i dont think i would.

keef66

I probably would.

I was hoping for a prescription for EPO when I was recently diagnosed as anaemic, but all they've given me is iron tablets