Fake Seatpost??

Rushmore

Hi all,

I just bought this seatpost from the classifieds on here..

Fitted it to my bike,, sat on it and the seat swivelled round!

On further inspection the seat clamp pulled out of the post with little or no resistance..

Could I have been sold a fake??

Aslo what advice can you give me as to getting the money back?

it is supposedly a FSA SL-K Zero Setback seat post...

nicklouse

looks fine to me.

that is how many are put together .

it is FUBARed though.

Raymondavalon

nicklouse wrote:

looks fine to me.

that is how many are put together .

it is FUBARed though.

I reckon a decent epoxy would sort it.

nicklouse

Raymondavalon wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

looks fine to me.

that is how many are put together .

it is FUBARed though.

I reckon a decent epoxy would sort it.

it should as that is what was used before but the question is why did it go?

often it will be the result of some issue that may happen again. just my thoughts.

Rushmore

So what are your suggestions?

I bought this 2'nd hand off the classifieds section..

I sent the money as a paypal gift, so can't open a dispute....

nicklouse

get some suitable epoxy and see how it goes. or bin it.

mcj78

personally i'd be emailing the seller - i've never had a seatpost randomly come apart on me, even bonded carbon ones that were punished on commuting bikes for years, looks unlikely that it was fine prior to you taking delivery of it...

have a read at this http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40050&t=12830477

J

Rushmore

Contacted the seller..

Been completely fobbed off..

Heres the thread..

viewtopic.php?f=40050&t=12834335

mkf

if what you say is true then seller is a dishonest turd.
i'd go round and stick the post where it doesn't swivel.
i'll be staying well clear of his username in classifeds
sorry to say you just lost £35 unless you can fix it

njee20

And don't be stupid and pay via PayPal gift. Pay the extra 3% if people are funny about it. Cheaper in the long run.

Beardface

I saw that thread, which sucks mate.

I've sold loads of parts on here, and if anybody ever has an issue with anything I sell, I'd be happy to refund within the first 2 weeks/month or so (depending on part sold). Personally, I would refund (full or partial) and apologise. Seller is being a bit harsh IMO, but then that is the trouble with buying through a forum

If the seller is refusing to budge, try the epoxy, otherwise, post it back with an ass biscuit shoved in the hole where the clamp was

I had one of these posts on an old Marin, gave it tons of abuse and it never failed.

nicklouse

and dont forget to put a post in the feed back section.

ilovedirt

Rushmore wrote:

Contacted the seller..

Been completely fobbed off..

Heres the thread..

viewtopic.php?f=40050&t=12834335

Sucks to be you mate, but you kind of asked for it by paying by gift in all honesty. Bet you won't be doing that again

mcj78

Stav wrote:

I saw that thread, which sucks mate.

I've sold loads of parts on here, and if anybody ever has an issue with anything I sell, I'd be happy to refund within the first 2 weeks/month or so (depending on part sold). Personally, I would refund (full or partial) and apologise. Seller is being a bit harsh IMO, but then that is the trouble with buying through a forum

If the seller is refusing to budge, try the epoxy, otherwise, post it back with an ass biscuit shoved in the hole where the clamp was

I had one of these posts on an old Marin, gave it tons of abuse and it never failed.

^can't disagree with any of that to be fair - an arse-biscuit through the post, whilst hysterically funny, could get you into trouble though

ste_t

"Pristine, new and unused - only fitted to bike."

"used once for thrash about on boxing day with no probs"

Sounds like someone is taking the obvious. Used it, broke it, ripped you off.

FSA SL-K carbon seatpost. Planet-X. £40.

http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/SPFSSLK/fsa-sl-k-carbon-seatpost

The Northern Monkey

How was it packed?

benpinnick

Looks fake to me. There's a load of fake fsa on eBay. pics not the best quality, but the head looks slightly off to me.

MountainMonster

I'd say he just buggered it, and tried to sell it on.

Just because something breaks doesn't mean it's a fake, especially when buying through used sites.

Rushmore

The Northern Monkey wrote:

How was it packed?

No box, just in a long envelope,..

I emailed him and asked for my money back. And said I was being a dick...

All I want is it to be resolved... Shame he didn't leave a return address...

Otherwise he'd be payed a visit and shown where exactly this post would fit best...

lawman

I'm certain that kinda damage wouldn't be done in the post, there's something not right about it, as any seller worth they're salt would at least offer something in return for your misfortune, I know i would and have done in the past, things in life happen so get on with it imo, sounds like the seller is being abit harsh about it to me...

Northwind

That's one of the ways carbon seatposts fail, so I don't think it's neccesarily abused or fake. But I do think the seller's either a thief or a shitehawk. Could be both.

cooldad

Northwind wrote:

That's one of the ways carbon seatposts fail, so I don't think it's neccesarily abused or fake. But I do think the seller's either a thief or a shitehawk. Could be both.

I don't think he cares.

gb901 wrote:

Sticks and stones. Oh, and get a life!

heez29

The post doesn't look fake. Also it was said in the other thread that the post looks different to the pictures... it looks the same.

Personally if I was a seller I wouldn't fully refund it, maybe partial.
If you were to buy a second hand car and the clutch packed in after a month would you expect a full refund? The seller to buy you a new clutch? No.

cooldad

Reading not your strong point? If it packed in as I tried driving out of the car lot I would.

Rushmore

heez29 wrote:

The post doesn't look fake. Also it was said in the other thread that the post looks different to the pictures... it looks the same.

Personally if I was a seller I wouldn't fully refund it, maybe partial.
If you were to buy a second hand car and the clutch packed in after a month would you expect a full refund? The seller to buy you a new clutch? No.

hold on... the post is completly different..

For one, the carbon fibre pattern is not present on the BR review. And the graphics are also different..

And no, your right.. if a clutch had packed up after a month, I wouldn't even ask for a partial refund i'd sort it..

I received the item in this condition!!! Lets look at this from your aspect..

If you bought a car that was advertised as in full working order... but turned up with no seats.... would you be happy??? :roll:

Also the seller later went on to say it was unused.. but this is untrue as there is marks on the seatpost from adjustment in a couple of places... some pretty high to suggest a real seat post drop for a decent...

Nowhere in the post did it say the clamp was un attached from the post??

Rushmore

Rushmore wrote:

heez29 wrote:

The post doesn't look fake. Also it was said in the other thread that the post looks different to the pictures... it looks the same.

Personally if I was a seller I wouldn't fully refund it, maybe partial.
If you were to buy a second hand car and the clutch packed in after a month would you expect a full refund? The seller to buy you a new clutch? No.

hold on... the post is completly different..

For one, the carbon fibre pattern is not present on the BR review due to being manufactured differently. And the graphics are also different..

And no, your right.. if a clutch had packed up after a month, I wouldn't even ask for a partial refund i'd sort it..

I received the item in this condition!!! Lets look at this from your aspect..

If you bought a car that was advertised as in full working order... but turned up with no seats.... would you be happy??? :roll:

Also the seller later went on to say it was unused.. but this is untrue as there is marks on the seatpost from adjustment in a couple of places... some pretty high to suggest a real seat post drop for a decent...

Nowhere in the post did it say the clamp was un attached from the post??

ste_t

heez29 wrote:

The post doesn't look fake. Also it was said in the other thread that the post looks different to the pictures... it looks the same.

Personally if I was a seller I wouldn't fully refund it, maybe partial.
If you were to buy a second hand car and the clutch packed in after a month would you expect a full refund? The seller to buy you a new clutch? No.

Don't be so ridiculous. The seller stated in his ad that it was brand new and unused, then says it was used for a 'thrash,' but then makes some garbled excuse about confusing it with some other post that he used instead.

It isn't like the post was used for a month. Apparantly arrived, fitted, sat on, already broken. The sellers reaction only supports the opinion that he knew about it in the first place and failed to mention that it was fooked. Obviously the majority have better morals than both the seller and yourself.

Rushmore

i know this sounds a bit extreme.. but I think it's due to more principle then anything, and the fact he's in my opinion a complete tw@ who thinks he's untouchable..

I've also had a few e-mail exchanges with the seller and he has shown no intention or desire to help resolve this issue.. not even partly...

I've got it now narrowed down to 2 names and addresses.. ( due to my super sleuth friends! who are incredibly clever in all that sort of thing... )

I'm off to citizens advise tomorrow to see what they can help me with.. And also going to call up Paypal..

I did warn him... and gave him probably more then 10 opportunities to resolve this in a dignified way..

Its gonna suck to be him for the foreseeable future..

it could have all been so easy as well....

EDIT: Although, Giles if your reading this and actually want to act like a real man and sort it out like a gentlemen then this fiasco can stop right now, I get my money back, you get your dodgy post back and we can shake hands over it and get back to doing what we all are here to do, and thats RIDE!

ste_t

If you do get your money back, don't forget to buy a brand spanking new one for £40 ;-)

Northwind

heez29 wrote:

If you were to buy a second hand car and the clutch packed in after a month would you expect a full refund? The seller to buy you a new clutch? No.

Man I love totally irrelevant counterexamples! Here's a better one, if you bought a car sold as "pristine, new and unused" and it turned out to be broken completely in half, would you just go "ah well"

benpinnick

heez29 wrote:

The post doesn't look fake. Also it was said in the other thread that the post looks different to the pictures... it looks the same.

Personally if I was a seller I wouldn't fully refund it, maybe partial.
If you were to buy a second hand car and the clutch packed in after a month would you expect a full refund? The seller to buy you a new clutch? No.

The post does look fake, if you compare it to a real one, or at least from the not that great pictures you will see the forging on the head is slightly different, specifically that the shaping on the curves isnt quite right, and the angles on the clamp look a little un-crisp from lazy copying of the forge mould. On a real one the forging above the post is two semicircles that match each other's profile - on this post the bottom curve is more of a 'v'.



Like I said, hard to tell from the pictures posted, but its FSA, it was bought on eBay, presumably cheap, chinese knock-off crap. Its broken, maybe the sellers glued it together with a bit of superglue and sold it. Maybe it genuinely broke the first time the poster rode it. Either way its gash.