My 54cm Carbonzone roadbike......how relaxed geometry ?(pic)
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I think there's a bit of confusion here from Ezy. Realxed geometry doesnt' necessarily mean a relaxed seating position. The simple solution is to get a frame that fits and is designed for the type of riding you do. That way, you don't end up with Frankenbike.Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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I dont see the problem but a pic of u riding it wont hurt :-) you do whats best with what u have but if ure getting a new bike make sure its right.0
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Is the steerer carbon or alu? If it's carbon that number of spacers is almost certainly unsafe.0
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Hope you didnt have to pay per spacer on that steerer tube :P10 mile TT pb - 20:56 R10/17
25 - 53:07 R25/7
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if the height gained by the spacers wasnt there, the bars would be way down and id feel as though i was reaching way down to grasp the bar tape. i was measured for frame size ,im 5 ft 9 and i was advised to buy a frame with 543mm top tube, thats what the carbonzone frame has. Recommendations online suggest for my dimensions a 54cm frame too. I wonder if 52cm or 53cm would have been a better fit.0
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I'm the same height as you. Got my infinito fitted at Epic cycles. Was the person who fitted you to your bike a professional? The reason I ask is because I can't imagine anyone in their right mind would allow someone to ride about on a bike set up in such a strange way. The whole reason of a roadbike is speed and efficiency. You say the drops would be too far away. That's the way it's supposed to be so that you're in an aero type position.
Like others have said, I think you may have bought the wrong type of bike.
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Ezy Rider wrote:I wonder if 52cm or 53cm would have been a better fit.
are you joking..? you'd need even more spacers then. Get some proper bike fit advice and accept the fact that if you have a drop bar road bike, there will be a 'drop' to the bars. Either that or buy a chopper.....0 -
You really do put yourself 'out there' when you seek opinions on a big public forum like this.
I have a bike with reasonably aggressive geometry (specialized allez) for leisure, and a hardtail mountain bike for a relatively short commute. I've been running that set-up since February last year, when I started commuting but gradually I have convinced myself that my ideal set-up would be an audax/ tourer with guards and rack for commuting, winter training and touring, with a carbon 'good' bike for sportives, time trials and summer use.
I'm about the same height as you, pretty competitive, determined to get faster, and prepared to push myself very hard to get there, but if I could only have one bike I'm concluding an audax type would actually suit me best.
My sister was an early adopter as far as computers were concerned, and I desperately wanted one. Our conversations used to go like this. Me 'What kind of computer should I buy?' Her 'What do you want it to do?' 'I don't know, how can I know when I don't have one?' 'Come back and tell me what you want it to do, and I'll tell you what you need!'
I think you've got yourself into the same kind of trap I was in then. You've decided you want a certain kind of bike, and having got it you're determined to make it work for you. A better starting point would be coming from what do you want a bike to do, and then finding out which bike best matches that use.0 -
If you don't mind the way it looks (huge stack of spacers), and if it's safe (some forks specify a maximum number of spacers) then it's fine. The advantage of a "sportive" frame would be that you could do away with a lot of the spacers and have something that looked more normal, but it probably wouldn't ride very differently (unless you're getting significant flex from that steerer..)
If you want to keep the shifters at that angle, you could rotate the bars upwards and move the shifters downwards, so they ended up in the same absolute position but further down on the bars. That way you might have a chance of reaching them in the drops!
If you're averaging 19mph on your own over 50 miles with that setup that's pretty impressive, given the air you must be catching...
As a matter of interest, what specifically do you find uncomfortable about a setup that's lower at the front? E.g. do you get back problems, neck problems, don't feel in control, whatever?0 -
if you are comfortable on it then it's fine. much better than slamming the stem 'just because'.0
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i do 95% of my riding on the hoods and i never go down into the drops, i find that arched back position to be very uncomfortable. the other 5 % is with my hands on top of the bars when im having a look around at the view. i think a soft bend at the elbow is fundemental when on the hoods and no stretch in the neck either. i know wearing a bonnet and riding with a straight set of bars would be more upright and comfy,but my usual 18 -19 avg mph performance would be shot to bits because of the wind drag.0
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If you like it that's all that matters but you've clearly bought the wrong frame for you and have bodged it to fit you...0
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Ezy Rider wrote:nferrar wrote:If you like it that's all that matters but you've clearly bought the wrong frame for you and have bodged it to fit you...
thats strange, because all sources , bike fit and online recommendations said the 54cm frame was definitely my size.
the frame size is not the issue - I'm sure it's the right size for you physically. The issue is that you have a 'performance' frame which has been set up like a shopping bike...0 -
Whilst I agree that if this set-up works for you that's fair enough. However, I think what people have been trying to point out is that the style of frame you have would better suit a more 'aggressive' position, which is what you are trying to avoid. There's a guy who has posted photos of his Carbonzone framed bike on the Your Rides forum which is set-up in a way that suits the style of frame more.Where would you be if you fell down a hole?.. Stuck down a hole... in the fog... Stuck down a hole, in the fog, at night... WITH AN OWL!0
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what do you guys think of specialised secteur bikes ?0
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Those levers. WTF. No way did any bike shop let you leave with them set like that.
Before you waste money on a new bike and make a balls of that, get some shallow drop bars and put the levers in the correct place and you might actually be able to use the drops. And if you find you can't get comfortable with the bars any lower than they are now then you need to work on your flexibility (I'm assuming you're not 60 years old and past improving your flexibility).More problems but still living....0 -
On second thoughts, you need a Thorn:
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amaferanga, the fitter said my flexibility is poor, you are correct there, but WTF !! that Thorn looks like something Granville rode in open all hours mate........LOL
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Beginning to think this is all a wind up!argon 18 e116 2013 Vision Metron 80
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Ezy Rider wrote:amaferanga, the fitter said my flexibility is poor, you are correct there, but WTF !! that Thorn looks like something Granville rode in open all hours mate........LOL
You mock that, but it looks very similar to your bike the way it is currently set up, so what does that tell you?0 -
Ezy
This is all a bit odd mate.
I think the frame you have is the FM028 which already has a relaxed/sportive geometry. Add to this a massive and dangerous looking stack of spacers plus an upturned stem and plus strangely high shifters and you have a very very relaxed type bike. it doesn't matter what bike or frame you buy you will never replicate the position you have here without similar spacers, stem etc.
The only explanation I can come up with is that you have very very very very short arms. Either that or you need to do some stretches/exercises and try to get some more flexibility.
Something really doesn't look right here. I think we need a pick of you on a turbo riding this thing.
Edit: Plus you're now asking about what frame would be a relaxed one!! :shock: WTF! If this bike was any more relaxed it would be asleep! But if you're averaging 19mph then maybe it's all good, who knows. Looks pretty scary to me though.0 -
I would love to see you on this bike. Pic please.0
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Im 5'6-7 and I thought a 52-53 cm frame would be right for me and everything points to that fact however Im more suited to a 48 or TT geometry with a longer stem. I bought all my bikes blind - never again
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Ezy Rider wrote:amaferanga, the fitter said my flexibility is poor, you are correct there, but WTF !! that Thorn looks like something Granville rode in open all hours mate........LOL
But it looks just like yours !! OK, so yours is carbon but the set up is pretty mich identical (except for the fact that the Thorn has the levers in teh right place !!)Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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Didn't we go through a similar exercise with Ezy Rider and saddle choice ?Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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Should of gone to SpecSavers0
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