How long would it take you to ride this route???

briantrumpet · January 2012

sfichele wrote:

Anyone claiming to do 20+ mph over 50 miles in an environment like the Peaks is either a pro or in the very top few percent any riders. or lying!

So can I get away with 48.7 miles at 20.2 mph in Devon with my honesty unquestioned?

But then, to put it into proportion, I rode the 112 miles of the Devon Tour of Britain route solo last year at 17.5mph; the professionals did it at over 27mph. It's at times like that that I remember that no-one really cares about average speeds. Really. But I must try harder, all the same. And be honest.

Team4Luke · January 2012

briantrumpet wrote:

sfichele wrote:

Anyone claiming to do 20+ mph over 50 miles in an environment like the Peaks is either a pro or in the very top few percent any riders. or lying!

So can I get away with 48.7 miles at 20.2 mph in Devon with my honesty unquestioned?

But then, to put it into proportion, I rode the 112 miles of the Devon Tour of Britain route solo last year at 17.5mph; the professionals did it at over 27mph. It's at times like that that I remember that no-one really cares about average speeds. Really. But I must try harder, all the same. And be honest.

does depend on who you are and how hard you are going. 48.7m at 20.2mph is a high level of fitness I would say, I could do that on my road bike but I would be pretty much into racing effort to come home with that average over that distance.

waynobfc · January 2012

I am Bang on Average Joe & i have a training loop of 19.8miles with just over 1000ft ascent that takes me about 1 hr 15 mins

An hour over that route is respectable for an average rider - ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

FWIW i do not race but more than hold my own on club runs

Team4Luke · January 2012

waynobfc wrote:

I am Bang on Average Joe & i have a training loop of 19.8miles with just over 1000ft ascent that takes me about 1 hr 15 mins

An hour over that route is respectable for an average rider - ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

FWIW i do not race but more than hold my own on club runs

nowt wrong with that, good workout with some climbing too.
There is a massive difference between a club run and a race, there will be some super strong riders on a club run and probably some ex racers, but a decent roadie or a fast tester would drop a club run and I mean people capable of well over 20mph training averages, plenty of us.

RoadMeridaBen · January 2012

waynobfc wrote:

I am Bang on Average Joe & i have a training loop of 19.8miles with just over 1000ft ascent that takes me about 1 hr 15 mins

An hour over that route is respectable for an average rider - ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

FWIW i do not race but more than hold my own on club runs

Heres my 18 mile route http://connect.garmin.com/activity/84987039
Its the flattest road in my area living in Wales lol (cant wait for the TT season to start! :P)

briantrumpet · January 2012

waynobfc wrote:

ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

In defence of willy waving, from the OP:

iestynt1 wrote:

It'd be interesting to see the differing levels of speed/fitness.

ianbar · January 2012

i personally would manage it probably about 75 mins. id say i was a lot heavier than you about 100kg.

HueyTheBull · January 2012

briantrumpet wrote:

waynobfc wrote:

ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

In defence of willy waving, from the OP:

iestynt1 wrote:

It'd be interesting to see the differing levels of speed/fitness.

Haha, by all means!

.... No-one has piped up with a sub 50 minute time as yet! Anyone brave enough to step into the line of fire?

okgo · January 2012

Of course there are people on here that would do it in 50 mins.

My record on my commute (which is just under 18 miles from one end of London to the other) is 59 mins or something, so its fairly reasonable to expect any decent roadie going for it to be able to get pretty close to 50 mins given the route isn't anything like as stop start and as busy as a city commute.

I'd expect there are a couple that I know that are on here that would be well down into the 40's.

Its not willy waving really is it? I'd argue that the people that give their slow times then claim willy waving are actually the ones seeking more attention.

And compared to a pro who would be able to avg 30 mph I'd imagine 20-25 mph for a good ametuer is entirely feasible.

briantrumpet · January 2012

okgo wrote:

I'd argue that the people that give their slow times then claim willy waving are actually the ones seeking more attention.

One of the nice things about cycling is that there's such a range of cyclists, from those who just enjoy pootling a couple of miles on a MTB, to those who can ride long distances at a decent speed, and to those who can do time trials at 30mph. For those outside club riding, there is often disbelief that serious cyclists can cycle the speeds/distances they do (or, if they do believe the figures, that you should keep quiet about them), hence the double accusation of willy-waving/lying. But most willy-wavers will know several riders who are stronger/faster then themselves, and what outside of club riding might sound like willy-waving, is merely average. Credit to the OP - he is genuinely interested in the range of abilities here on BR.

okgo · January 2012

I totally agree, I can ride at a decent pace, and to people at work it seems mental that I'd ride 100 miles in a morning on a sunday. But it isn't. And there is a chap I ride with who's on here who would easily do that route in low 40's solo, other people wouldn't believe that either.

Pigtail · January 2012

I see a 20 mph average as a real target for me - which is tantalisingly close sometimes, but I'm not quite there. I've gradually gone through hitting 20 on the flat, averaging 20 for a mile, averaging 20 for big chunks but 20 for a complete ride has been very rare.

One of the problems is that I stay in town, with traffic lights, roundabouts, give ways etc that hammers my average before I get out on the open road. I have a 30 mile route that I haven't tried since summertime. Over 8 months last year I knocked half-an-hour off my time for it and was tantalisingly close to the 20 mph door-to-door, but never quite made it.

Team4Luke · January 2012

Pigtail wrote:

I see a 20 mph average as a real target for me - which is tantalisingly close sometimes, but I'm not quite there. I've gradually gone through hitting 20 on the flat, averaging 20 for a mile, averaging 20 for big chunks but 20 for a complete ride has been very rare.

One of the problems is that I stay in town, with traffic lights, roundabouts, give ways etc that hammers my average before I get out on the open road. I have a 30 mile route that I haven't tried since summertime. Over 8 months last year I knocked half-an-hour off my time for it and was tantalisingly close to the 20 mph door-to-door, but never quite made it.

well said, town will wreck your average although Garmins and the like set to stop/start will help but you still have to slow and re-accelerate, you said it well, easy to ride at 20mph but keeping it up and above is a different matter entirely and that's where serious volume training comes in usually but not all the time from those that race road or TT.
My training ave speeds range from 17.5mph to 24mph from several hours down to 20min sessions.
It is a very interesting number 20mph

RoadMeridaBen · January 2012

iestynt1 wrote:

briantrumpet wrote:

waynobfc wrote:

ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

In defence of willy waving, from the OP:

iestynt1 wrote:

It'd be interesting to see the differing levels of speed/fitness.

Haha, by all means! .... No-one has piped up with a sub 50 minute time as yet! Anyone brave enough to step into the line of fire?

I'll stick my neck out and I reckon I could do it sub 50 :P

briantrumpet · January 2012

RoadMeridaBen wrote:

I'll stick my neck out and I reckon I could do it sub 50 :P

Willy waver. (Or neck waver, anyway.)

Team4Luke wrote:

It is a very interesting number 20mph

Indeed. It has worked nicely as a target for me. Sometimes I hit it, sometimes not, but it's a good motivator to push myself.

HueyTheBull · January 2012

RoadMeridaBen wrote:

iestynt1 wrote:

briantrumpet wrote:

waynobfc wrote:

ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

In defence of willy waving, from the OP:

iestynt1 wrote:

It'd be interesting to see the differing levels of speed/fitness.

Haha, by all means! .... No-one has piped up with a sub 50 minute time as yet! Anyone brave enough to step into the line of fire?

I'll stick my neck out and I reckon I could do it sub 50 :P

Top man!!! Someone willing to be shot down In flames! Personally I couldn't care if you could do it in 30 minutes or 90 minutes. The great thing about this forum is that there is a large range of ability and desire with the main aim being just 'get out on the bike'.

Anyone beat 45minutes?

RoadMeridaBen · January 2012

iestynt1 wrote:

RoadMeridaBen wrote:

iestynt1 wrote:

briantrumpet wrote:

waynobfc wrote:

ignore the willy wavers with all the talk of 20+ averages

In defence of willy waving, from the OP:

iestynt1 wrote:

It'd be interesting to see the differing levels of speed/fitness.

Haha, by all means! .... No-one has piped up with a sub 50 minute time as yet! Anyone brave enough to step into the line of fire?

I'll stick my neck out and I reckon I could do it sub 50 :P

Top man!!! Someone willing to be shot down In flames! Personally I couldn't care if you could do it in 30 minutes or 90 minutes. The great thing about this forum is that there is a large range of ability and desire with the main aim being just 'get out on the bike'.

Anyone beat 45minutes?

To go under 45 i'd be looking at the TT bike, then it is easily doable

briantrumpet · January 2012

RoadMeridaBen wrote:

To go under 45 i'd be looking at the TT bike, then it is easily doable

Hmm - that's a claim I'd hesitate to make looking at the route, whatever I was going to ride - rather too many junctions and urban riding for my liking for pure speed.

okgo · January 2012

I'd have a tenner on TarmacExpert (look up the 3 lap Challenge thread) going under 45 on a road bike.

briantrumpet · January 2012

okgo wrote:

I'd have a tenner on TarmacExpert (look up the 3 lap Challenge thread) going under 45 on a road bike.

Now you're waving someone else's willy.

okgo · January 2012

Haha. That's something altogether different. And not for this type of forum!

briantrumpet · January 2012

okgo wrote:

Haha. That's something altogether different. And not for this type of forum!

Ooh, I dunno. I think Big Hairy Wallapers over in Cake Stop needs some entertainment now his thread there is tapering off.

ForumNewbie · February 2012

briantrumpet wrote:

okgo wrote:

I'd argue that the people that give their slow times then claim willy waving are actually the ones seeking more attention.

One of the nice things about cycling is that there's such a range of cyclists, from those who just enjoy pootling a couple of miles on a MTB, to those who can ride long distances at a decent speed, and to those who can do time trials at 30mph. For those outside club riding, there is often disbelief that serious cyclists can cycle the speeds/distances they do

And for those inside club riding, there seems to be often disbelief, or even sniggering, that there are other cyclists that can still take cycling seriously and enjoy it, even with average speeds of 12 to 14 mph, or less, on 50/60 mile rides.

HueyTheBull · February 2012

Did it! Came in with my first sub 60 minute time with a 59.43. Thanks for all the comments, advice etc... I appreciate there are some here who could break 50 so whilst it's not great, it's great for me! Conditions, fitness, nutrition, technique, bike set up etc etc all played a part. Need another goal now! Thanks all

briantrumpet · February 2012

HueyTheBull wrote:

Did it! Came in with my first sub 60 minute time with a 59.43.

Well done! Bet you were chuffed when you stopped the clock and saw the time.

The only trouble now is you'll be setting yourself the next target, now you've achieved this one!

petemadoc · February 2012

Just seen this thread for the first time

Well done Huey. If you can break that barrier in winter you could probably knock a few more minutes off on a nice warm day. Goof luck with your next challenge

How long would it take you to ride this route???

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