SOPA already taking effect?
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TheNorthernTrain wrote:I appreciate that the amount of music I download is wrong... But i've been of the view that unless a band is properly in the mainstream, then they rake it in anyway from pure volume of sales, but the lesser known bands make so little off album sales that I don't see the point in feeding the already extensive profit of the corporations... bugger me sideways I sound very hippy and cheeswandish. Their money comes in from doing gigs, tours, festivals and merchandising.
Of course i'm probably completely wrong....
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you sir are talking utter crap. i can't be arsed to go into it, but yes, you are wrong
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sheepsteeth wrote:
this may come as a shock but no, i didnt used to record stuff off the radio and i dont illegally download stuf off the internet, anything i download i pay for because im not a thief.
i have borrowed loads of music on physical copies but i dont copy it, i buy it if i like it.
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For those of us old enough to remember 8bit computers, I bet few never "borrowed" their friends games and made copies. That was what a C60 tape was made for.0
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I've got no sympathy for the big multinational record companies, artists and independent labels yes but the big industry players no.
Go back 10 years and CD's where typically £12.00 -£15.00, we where told the price could not be reduced, we even had government enquires into price fixing.
For years the music industry took the P1ss, then along came the internet and oh how prices suddenly dropped. If it wasn't for the internet I expect CDs would now be in the region of £20.00 - £30.00.
If the film and music industry went tits up tomorrow it might not be a bad thing with the amount of crap they put out.
Artists would be free to express themselves without outside interference, they would turn to the Internet to promote their work (many are) and would be free from the shackles of an industry with nothing more in mind than protecting it's profit margins.
You can record an album on a Macbook/PC you don't need a multi million pound studio or a record label.0 -
It'll also sound pretty sh1t in honesty.Dirtydog11 wrote:Blah blah blah
You can record an album on a Macbook/PC you don't need a multi million pound studio or a record label.deadkenny wrote:For those of us old enough to remember 8bit computers, I bet few never "borrowed" their friends games and made copies. That was what a C60 tape was made for. I am completely guilty of this. My dad employed a student back in the 80's to help him on his shop, and he used to copy hundreds of games onto C60's. I mean, one tape could hold 20 or 30 games! He also leant us all the WWF videos. Awesome. It takes as much courage to have tried and failed as it does to have tried and succeeded.
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Sound sh1t?
Coldplay, Gorillaz, Lilly Allen, Franz Ferdinand would all no doubt disagree.
http://www.apple.com/logicpro/in-action/0 -
I hate Logic with a passion. Trust me, I work with it, and ProTools (Standard and HD) day in day out. I'm in charge of 11 studios and 88 Mac Computers, so probably know a lot more about that damned piece of software than you.
Are you aware of Garageband, and how rubbish that is? And how much Apple are turning Logic into Garageband? They're doing the same with Final Cut Pro, once a famous, world-class piece of software that film editors used daily, now looks more like iMovie which is designed for teenage kids to produce alright looking videos of them kicking bins. Apple are the ar$e-end of software makers. They have no interest in it at all, and as a result, make everything as simple as they can, so that other designers can sell them software licenses to use on Apple OS systems, which they sell on for massive profits.
TL:DR? Logic is sh1t. Apple are ar$e bandits.
Anyway, we digress. Let me download some porn of some lesbanisms for free.It takes as much courage to have tried and failed as it does to have tried and succeeded.
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I just had a throught, is buying a used CD not in a way copyright infringement? If you think about it, the major companies don't want you downloading music because you arn't paying for it, but normally no-one makes a profit off it. What about buying used CDs, you buy the cd new, and when your done you sell it on for money back, therefore making you money off that artist, in principle. How come that doesn't have any effect, even when most piraters are not after profit?0
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It appears that copyright law doesn't make it illegal to sell the item on provided there's proof you legitimately owned it in the first place. Essentially you're not making a copy.
But that's with physical products. The grey area is with MP3s, ebooks etc. To sell these on you may need to make a 'copy' and that's where they can object. They'd like to object to you selling anything on at all but it's been long established that it's normally okay. Still you see unenforceable "not for resale" and such printed on many products and in the case of software end user licence agreements attempt to forbid you from transferring the product to someone else. On top of that are the attempts to prevent sale or resale in another country to basically control the market and keep prices high.
In the main, it's about profit for big corporates first. The artist really is barely affected by piracy despite what some studio worshipping artists tend to rant that they are. They get crap all of the profit anyway. They'd be better off going independent, cut out the normal channels of distribution, get rid of the lawyers, and make money through direct sales and other methods (concerts etc).
At some point the music and movie industry is likely to collapse as they get cut out of the loop, unless they have sufficient control of the Internet, which they are attempting to do with these laws and other things like creating a paywalled Internet tier and forcing ISPs to split the net.0 -
Dirtydog11 wrote:Sound sh1t?
Coldplay
Yes. Yes they do sound sh1t. But that can't be helped, that's just Coldplay.0 -
deadkenny wrote:It appears that copyright law doesn't make it illegal to sell the item on provided there's proof you legitimately owned it in the first place. Essentially you're not making a copy.
But that's with physical products. The grey area is with MP3s, ebooks etc. To sell these on you may need to make a 'copy' and that's where they can object. They'd like to object to you selling anything on at all but it's been long established that it's normally okay. Still you see unenforceable "not for resale" and such printed on many products and in the case of software end user licence agreements attempt to forbid you from transferring the product to someone else. On top of that are the attempts to prevent sale or resale in another country to basically control the market and keep prices high.
In the main, it's about profit for big corporates first. The artist really is barely affected by piracy despite what some studio worshipping artists tend to rant that they are. They get crap all of the profit anyway. They'd be better off going independent, cut out the normal channels of distribution, get rid of the lawyers, and make money through direct sales and other methods (concerts etc).
At some point the music and movie industry is likely to collapse as they get cut out of the loop, unless they have sufficient control of the Internet, which they are attempting to do with these laws and other things like creating a paywalled Internet tier and forcing ISPs to split the net.
Ah ok, I get it a bit more. I was thinking along the lines as you are basically profiting from their music in the end as well that they would have a problem with it.
I do see the music and movie industry as we know it now collapsing within a decade or so, especially if they continue at the crap pace they are now (movie industry mainly). You see greatly edited movies come out, followed by 50 wastes of a tenner. Out of every 50 movies to go into theaters, only about 1 interest me, and i'm one of the people who goes "regularly" to cinemas for the experience.0 -
I see that filesonic is offline and also suggestions that Hotfile will fail too - don't know if they are being prosecuted or running scared but my route to free movies has now gone.
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