Scotland "FREEDOM!!!" and a Republic of Jamaica?

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  • suzyb
    suzyb Posts: 3,449
    But us Scots like cake more than the rest of the UK.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,477
    SimonAH wrote:
    "Great Britain and Ireland"

    It's Great Britain and Northern Ireland.......do keep up
    A standalone Scotland on a world stage would probably be a hard sell on a financial basis

    If Scotland were an independent country were would it's economy rank?
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,011
    TailWindHome wrote:
    If Scotland were an independent country were would it's economy rank?
    Depends to a reasonable extent on how much of the oil revenues it would hypothetically get.
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  • SimonAH
    SimonAH Posts: 3,730
    The oil's not got long left anyway.....and once that goes?
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    SimonAH wrote:
    The oil's not got long left anyway.....and once that goes?

    I refer the honourable gentleman to the previous comment about shortbread biscuits.
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  • Blue Meanie
    Blue Meanie Posts: 495
    Oil's aplenty, but HRM reckons that it belongs to the UK not Scotlandshire, which as an aside is interesting. She's Elizabeth the Second of...

    Maybe we could get Wales and Ireland on our side?

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  • suzyb
    suzyb Posts: 3,449
    SimonAH wrote:
    The oil's not got long left anyway.....and once that goes?
    Then we'll all get blotto on Whisky.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    If you get independence, won't this just provoke the Cornish into a UDI?
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,011
    cjcp wrote:
    If you get independence, won't this just provoke the Cornish into a UDI?
    Come to think of it, we could get shot of the Welsh this way as well ;-)
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  • Stone Glider
    Stone Glider Posts: 1,227
    WRT the second part of the OP, IIRC when Australia had a referendum on becoming a Republic it failed big style. The general conclusion was that Oz voters did not fancy any of their crop of politicians being given a huge trough to get their snouts into. Hence they decided that Brenda would do, as she did no harm and cost very little.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,477
    Blue Meanie wrote:
    Tell you what, to settle this once and for all. Champions. Sr Hoy vs Chavendish May the best man win.


    Cavendish isn't English.


    OT - How would that race happen? Cavendish isn't going to stand a chance in sprint against Hoy, but Hoy would be never be in the field after 150miles (unless pancake flat)
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,922
    Blue Meanie wrote:
    Oil's aplenty, but HRM reckons that it belongs to the UK not Scotlandshire, which as an aside is interesting. She's Elizabeth the Second of...

    Maybe we could get Wales and Ireland on our side?

    Tell you what, to settle this once and for all. Champions. Sr Hoy vs Chavendish May the best man win.

    She is Elizabeth I of Scotland - you've had two Marys and an Anne so far. As TWH says, Cavendish is Manx.
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  • cjcp
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    Just read that the SNP are thought to want a vote in 2014. No rush, then...
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  • EKE_38BPM
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    TailWindHome wrote:
    Blue Meanie wrote:
    Tell you what, to settle this once and for all. Champions. Sr Hoy vs Chavendish May the best man win.


    Cavendish isn't English.

    As the IOM isn't in the United Kingdom or Great Britain (according to Wikipedia), how comes Cav can represent Team GB in the olympics and other events?

    I don't think Jamaicans care one way or the other about Liz, Phil or the monarchy in general. I doubt a referendum would get a great turnout.
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  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    SimonAH wrote:
    The oil's not got long left anyway.....and once that goes?

    There's more to oil than the North Sea, West of Shetland for starters.
    Also, there's more to Scotland than oil.

    Shortbread for starters :wink:

    Anyway, what does England have apart from the financial base (the evil bankers :mrgreen: ) that is London?
    Just to stir things up a little :twisted:
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • leodis75
    leodis75 Posts: 184
    I hope the Scottish government will be better at running Scotland than building tram systems. :wink:
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    What are Scotland's main industries? Whiskey and golf come to mind.
    Please tell me it's not banking!
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TheStone wrote:
    What are Scotland's main industries?
    Please tell me it's not banking!

    Ha.

    Seen the news?

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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheStone wrote:
    What are Scotland's main industries?
    Please tell me it's not banking!

    Ha.

    Seen the news?

    RBS won't be an investment bank come summer.

    Edinburgh is one of the largest financial centers in Europe. Currently.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,011
    TheStone wrote:
    What are Scotland's main industries? Whiskey and golf come to mind.
    Please tell me it's not banking!
    Do 'call centres' count as an industry? :-)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheStone wrote:
    What are Scotland's main industries?
    Please tell me it's not banking!

    Ha.

    Seen the news?

    RBS won't be an investment bank come summer.

    Edinburgh is one of the largest financial centers in Europe. Currently.

    I can name quite a few head of Edinburgh.

    London, Frankfurt, Paris, Zurich, Geneva Amsterdam, Milan, Madrid to name 8 :P
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  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    leodis75 wrote:
    I hope the Scottish government will be better at running Scotland than building tram systems. :wink:
    That example scares me more than anything else.
    On the other hand, the SNP were the only party to vote against it so there may be hope for the future.

    Industries? Fairly similar to England, just smaller numbers.
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • suzyb
    suzyb Posts: 3,449
    TheStone wrote:
    What are Scotland's main industries? Whiskey and golf come to mind.
    Please tell me it's not banking!
    Whisky = Scottish. Whiskey = Irish.
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  • leodis75
    leodis75 Posts: 184
    I love Scotland, I only first visited last April and returned again in Oct we loved it so much, if Scotland want independence then so be it. I am sure they will be able to stand on there own two feet, just scares me when people use Norway as an example due to them still paying Billions a year to the EUSSR for access into the free market and still having to abide by 80-90% of EU laws yet don't get any of the few benefits of been a member.

    If Scotland have low business tax rates like Ireland then I am sure businesses will use Scotland as a base, that said Salmond is a pretty clever fella.
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    I can name quite a few head of Edinburgh.

    London, Frankfurt, Paris, Zurich, Geneva Amsterdam, Milan, Madrid to name 8 :P

    Ahem. Edinburgh is 8th, ahead of Milan.

    Table 8 | The Leading 20 European Centres
    in GFCI 9
    Rating
    London
    Zurich
    Geneva
    Frankfurt
    Paris
    Luxembourg
    Munich
    Edinburgh
    Amsterdam
    Dublin
    Stockholm
    Madrid
    Brussels
    Milan
    Vienna
    Copenhagen

    Source - http://www.zyen.com/GFCI/GFCI%209.pdf
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I hope Scotland realises that this means there will be no chance of Celtic and Rangers ever moving into the English Premier League or the Championship.
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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I hope Scotland realises that this means there will be no chance of Celtic and Rangers ever moving into the English Premier League or the Championship.

    I think the only people who don't realise that already are Celtic and Rangers.
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  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I hope Scotland realises that this means there will be no chance of Celtic and Rangers ever moving into the English Premier League or the Championship.
    I don't believe that anyone seriously thought this would happen.
    I can see both sides and Sky liking the idea. No one else.
    Money talks but self preservation of the others on both sides on the border will prevent it.
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Explain Cardiff City FC
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,922
    edited January 2012
    daviesee wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    I can name quite a few head of Edinburgh.

    London, Frankfurt, Paris, Zurich, Geneva Amsterdam, Milan, Madrid to name 8 :P

    Ahem. Edinburgh is 8th, ahead of Milan.

    Table 8 | The Leading 20 European Centres
    in GFCI 9
    Rating
    London
    Zurich
    Geneva
    Frankfurt
    Paris
    Luxembourg
    Munich
    Edinburgh
    Amsterdam
    Dublin
    Stockholm
    Madrid
    Brussels
    Milan
    Vienna
    Copenhagen

    Source - http://www.zyen.com/GFCI/GFCI%209.pdf

    Think it might be stretching things to say Edinburgh is one of the top banking centres if it is behind even Madrid, but some interesting stats here.

    ETA: and in Table 1 World GFCI rankings, Edinburgh is 29th.
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