Folding Hybrid Bikes

Hi All
First post so hope this is in the right forum. I'm a complete novice to biking and last time I rode a bike regularly was about 20 years ago on a Grifter if anyone remembers that and then a short stint on a mountain bike which weighed a ton and was really hard work to ride. Read through the beginners sticky which was really useful.
The thing is I need a folding bike that will fit into the boot of a VW Golf that I will then use to commute between different venues that I work at so in all 8 mile daily journeys (four miles to and from).
Looking at hybrid because of it's upright position. Only bike manufacturer I can find of hyrbid folding bikes is "Montague". Are there any others?
Tried to do a search on this forum but can't find anything. Tried riding a brompton bike the other week and it didn't inspire me with great confidence (although I know it has a somewhat loyal fan base). So just after bikes to research. Currenly only one I can find that would be suitable due to the pannier rack, folding and hyrid is the one below:
www.montaguefoldingbike.co.uk/uk/2011_f ... /navigator
So any suggestions gratefully appreciated.
First post so hope this is in the right forum. I'm a complete novice to biking and last time I rode a bike regularly was about 20 years ago on a Grifter if anyone remembers that and then a short stint on a mountain bike which weighed a ton and was really hard work to ride. Read through the beginners sticky which was really useful.
The thing is I need a folding bike that will fit into the boot of a VW Golf that I will then use to commute between different venues that I work at so in all 8 mile daily journeys (four miles to and from).
Looking at hybrid because of it's upright position. Only bike manufacturer I can find of hyrbid folding bikes is "Montague". Are there any others?
Tried to do a search on this forum but can't find anything. Tried riding a brompton bike the other week and it didn't inspire me with great confidence (although I know it has a somewhat loyal fan base). So just after bikes to research. Currenly only one I can find that would be suitable due to the pannier rack, folding and hyrid is the one below:
www.montaguefoldingbike.co.uk/uk/2011_f ... /navigator
So any suggestions gratefully appreciated.
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Bianchi Via Nirone 7 Ultegra
Brompton S Type
Carrera Vengeance Ultimate Ltd
Gary Fisher Aquila '98
Front half of a Viking Saratoga Tandem
I dont fold mine very often but ride it at least 10miles/day for 4 years.
You do need an allen key to lock the hinge.
Halfords (apollo?) Dahon, Brompton, Birdy, Airnimal, Moulton pretty much ascending price wise. Brompton is a great fold and an ok ride, Dahon is a good compromise, and both are under £1000 then you get to big money, Birdy is a great ride and a viable but bigger fold, Airnimal is more what you describe & Moulton is a rare piece of engineering.
Larger wheels have lower rolling resistance.
A constant pressure, wider tyres have lower rolling resistance.
Narrower tyres have lower air resistance and are lighter
Smaller wheels are lighter and accelerate faster but are affected more by big bumps.
In practice, the bicycle speed record is held by a full suspension 20" Mouton
26" wheels are comparable to 700c is you select a suitable fat slick tyre
Rolling resistance does not vary with speed so has most effect at low speeds.
Air resistance varies with speed and has most effect at very high speeds.
If you are Just Riding Along for 4 miles, then a medium tyre 700c or 26" wheel is most efficient but smaller wheels are OK.
MichaelW – quite technical all that for me but I gather the narrower the wheel the easier to ride.
For me though with a bike is having mud guards and pannier that can take a fair bit of weight (e.g. 15kg approx) and hybrid makes sense. Only Montague Navigator is the only one that seems to pick most boxes. Just wish it had less gears, lower maintenance.
Thanks again!
Narrower wheels generally means a harsher ride as the tyre pressure will be higher & less rolling resistance as there is a smaller patch of contact with the ground. Good for road commuting. Albeit narrow wheels can feel a bit skittish until you get used to them.
I own a hybrid, road bike & folder currently, I've had other hybrids, MTBs & CX whilst owning folders & the difference is often negligible compared to the look. How much test riding have you done so far on small wheel bikes?
The front chainring is set to mitigate smaller wheel size, I can ride my birdy all day long quite happily on charity rides or just following my nose up and down the pennines. I commuted a 15-20 mile daily round trip on small wheels for a decade & did so with suspension, mudguards & hanging various types of bags off the rack often using it for meetings in work clothes where a sweaty mass was not an option. I've taken an awful long time to recover from a serious neck injury & am trying to get back into riding road bikes or I'd still be riding my folder far more than I am doing. There's people riding Bromptons round the world.
It's your choice & money to spend but look at the bikes people are actually riding and buying, these type of full size folders are barely in evidence at all. That is very telling.
The other thing is that part of my ride to and from work normally means cutting through a park with is a mixture of pathway and some gravel and I wasn't too sure how the brompton would do. So all these things got me looking at foldable hybrids. Also pedals were quite narrow but that's minor issue though. Although thousands of satisfied brompton users can't be wrong so maybe it is just me and I have to try to get used to it, not sure though...
But the one thing I did like was its compact folding ability and the standard seat that comes with it is extremely comfortable, funnily enough the one thing I was most concerned about before riding one.
Perhaps it could be I just need more practice on one
Brommies do take a little bit of getting used to, but I'd happily do a long ride on mine and the odd gravel tow path or similar shouldn't worry it.
I've also found mine handled better on Marathon plus tyres than the standard Bromptons, although that wasn't major change. Potholes aren't that great on any bike, but yes, they are worse on 16" wheels. best avoided!
Bianchi Via Nirone 7 Ultegra
Brompton S Type
Carrera Vengeance Ultimate Ltd
Gary Fisher Aquila '98
Front half of a Viking Saratoga Tandem