Recommendations for a pursuit frame

2»

Comments

  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    johnboy183 wrote:
    Pokerface wrote:
    johnboy183 wrote:
    Wow! Knew you'd have good times but that sounds and will look phenomenal. How far behind "the big boys" and that is meant with the greatest respect?

    On a good day, I'd be at least 2 to 3 seconds a lap behind Jack Bobridge and his world record. But I'll be trying to break the World Record for my class in a few weeks.


    Pretty impressive none the less. Fingers crossed for attempt. If in Manchester will it be an open session?


    No - it will be in competition at the Track Worlds which are in LA in about 5 weeks from now. If not there, will have to wait until the Paralympics! (which is more likely anyway as LA is a slow track).
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Coline what is your laptime target and what distance do you have to do 2 or 3 k ?
    Do you train with the Irish ladies? They are very good for training with for pursuit as they do very good routines and when they go as a team perfect pacing . They train quite a bit at Newport.
    I am just getting y dolan frame resprayed customised and I will put team logo on it also, this will then be my bunch racing bike.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    johnboy183 wrote:
    Out of curiosity, What does half a second equate to distance wise? Is it a meter per lap? More or less?
    Just to give you bit of idea, the record for team pirsuit would be done at about 14 sec laps, Boberidge would have done about 15.2 seconds, team would be doing 40mph JB 37mph so thats huge difference :D I have only hit 40mph on a flying lap behind GB masters Champ who has a faous daughter currently in GB squad lol they do that oace for 16 laps. They sort of treat purstuit as long sprints, thats why Queally was brought back and if you look at GB squad allof them appart from WIggo are decent sprinters, G.Thomas, Clancy,Kennaugh, Burke. They also use and have experimented with very big gears,well over 100". Most mortals would use 94" to 98".
    As for distance, look at the photo below and it gives you idea, 0.1 s is roughly just over a bike lengthso to gain 1/2 sec may not sound much bit over a lap it is about 6 bike lengths at the speed in the race. For a pursit pace probably 0.1 is a bike length as speed would be less.
    You can see the time scale at bottom of photo and you can see the third and fourth place guys about 0.5 sec behind.
    By the way I cam second about 0.01 sec behind Steve Clayton of Planet X lol
    BScratchFinal.jpg
  • Thanks chaps. Not up on all my riders and their families but would the welsh lady's initials be KC?
    I know that Cav has a theory about the pursuit being a series of all out sprints with minimal rest, think he may have suggested it to the coaches at the time he was "serious" about his going round in circles. Perhaps we could have a team of Hoy, Cav, Kenny, Queally or Pendleton, Reade and sorry I've forgotten her name :oops:
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Coline what is your laptime target and what distance do you have to do 2 or 3 k ?
    Do you train with the Irish ladies? They are very good for training with for pursuit as they do very good routines and when they go as a team perfect pacing . They train quite a bit at Newport.
    I am just getting y dolan frame resprayed customised and I will put team logo on it also, this will then be my bunch racing bike.


    I do 3km. My target lap times will be 18.2 to 18.5 a lap. I know the Irish ladies well, but don't train with them. No point really as they work as a unit.

    As for pacing, whenever I train with my coach (or have someone at the track with me to call splits) we focus a LOT of getting even splits.

    Of course, If I can go faster than 18.2 a lap, there won't be any arguments from any of my coaches! :)

    Next training camp on the track starts in a few days. 2 weeks of daily pounding.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    johnboy183 wrote:
    Thanks chaps. Not up on all my riders and their families but would the welsh lady's initials be KC?
    I know that Cav has a theory about the pursuit being a series of all out sprints with minimal rest, think he may have suggested it to the coaches at the time he was "serious" about his going round in circles. Perhaps we could have a team of Hoy, Cav, Kenny, Queally or Pendleton, Reade and sorry I've forgotten her name :oops:
    Hoy would do decent time, Cav has posted class times already and no the initials are not KC try JV lol
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Pokerface wrote:
    Coline what is your laptime target and what distance do you have to do 2 or 3 k ?
    Do you train with the Irish ladies? They are very good for training with for pursuit as they do very good routines and when they go as a team perfect pacing . They train quite a bit at Newport.
    I am just getting y dolan frame resprayed customised and I will put team logo on it also, this will then be my bunch racing bike.


    I do 3km. My target lap times will be 18.2 to 18.5 a lap. I know the Irish ladies well, but don't train with them. No point really as they work as a unit.

    As for pacing, whenever I train with my coach (or have someone at the track with me to call splits) we focus a LOT of getting even splits.

    Of course, If I can go faster than 18.2 a lap, there won't be any arguments from any of my coaches! :)

    Next training camp on the track starts in a few days. 2 weeks of daily pounding.

    I know they workas a unit but they also do even splits and they do them faster than your splits, the use would be to go behindthem several bike lengths. If you have your own coach to do this with you it is ok but I dont unfortunately and dont get individual track time much :( so when squads are there I often tag at the back as they have coaches doing splits.
    My pacing is crap which is why I prefer to follow, but I am getting better :D
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    I know they workas a unit but they also do even splits and they do them faster than your splits, the use would be to go behindthem several bike lengths. If you have your own coach to do this with you it is ok but I dont unfortunately and dont get individual track time much :( so when squads are there I often tag at the back as they have coaches doing splits.
    My pacing is crap which is why I prefer to follow, but I am getting better :D

    Their coach is my coach. :) Plus they have now packed it in as they missed their chance to qualify for the Olympics.
  • johnboy183 wrote:
    Thanks chaps. Not up on all my riders and their families but would the welsh lady's initials be KC?
    I know that Cav has a theory about the pursuit being a series of all out sprints with minimal rest, think he may have suggested it to the coaches at the time he was "serious" about his going round in circles. Perhaps we could have a team of Hoy, Cav, Kenny, Queally or Pendleton, Reade and sorry I've forgotten her name :oops:
    Hoy would do decent time, Cav has posted class times already and no the initials are not KC try JV lol

    Jonathan Vaughters :shock:
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Pokerface wrote:
    I know they workas a unit but they also do even splits and they do them faster than your splits, the use would be to go behindthem several bike lengths. If you have your own coach to do this with you it is ok but I dont unfortunately and dont get individual track time much :( so when squads are there I often tag at the back as they have coaches doing splits.
    My pacing is crap which is why I prefer to follow, but I am getting better :D

    Their coach is my coach. :) Plus they have now packed it in as they missed their chance to qualify for the Olympics.
    Oh :( what time did they post ? The trouble with team pusrsuit is your as fast as the slowest rider and two of them are stronger.Still I thought they would be faster than some of the teams.
    I havent seen them for a while but one of them is on my face book but she did not mention their non qualification. Shame.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    johnboy183 wrote:
    johnboy183 wrote:
    Thanks chaps. Not up on all my riders and their families but would the welsh lady's initials be KC?
    I know that Cav has a theory about the pursuit being a series of all out sprints with minimal rest, think he may have suggested it to the coaches at the time he was "serious" about his going round in circles. Perhaps we could have a team of Hoy, Cav, Kenny, Queally or Pendleton, Reade and sorry I've forgotten her name :oops:
    Hoy would do decent time, Cav has posted class times already and no the initials are not KC try JV lol

    Jonathan Vaughters :shock:
    lol Jim VArnish :D he was world cycle speedway champ once and a class sprinter. His daughter is even better !! Watch her in the Olympics she is improving all the time same as Becky JAmes who is also improving and still young.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Pokerface wrote:
    I know they workas a unit but they also do even splits and they do them faster than your splits, the use would be to go behindthem several bike lengths. If you have your own coach to do this with you it is ok but I dont unfortunately and dont get individual track time much :( so when squads are there I often tag at the back as they have coaches doing splits.
    My pacing is crap which is why I prefer to follow, but I am getting better :D

    Their coach is my coach. :) Plus they have now packed it in as they missed their chance to qualify for the Olympics.
    Oh :( what time did they post ? The trouble with team pusrsuit is your as fast as the slowest rider and two of them are stronger.Still I thought they would be faster than some of the teams.
    I havent seen them for a while but one of them is on my face book but she did not mention their non qualification. Shame.

    In the first World Cup of the year they DQd. First a false start and then a puncture after 1.5KM. They were always going to struggle to qualify, but without that result, it really wasn't worth carrying on. Caroline Ryan went to the second World Cup and rode the individual pursuit but it's far too late for her to qualify for the Olympics this year. Ireland will just have one (male) track rider in the Olympics in the form of Martin Irvine (Omnium).
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Here you go. Photo of the new speed machine ready for racing with the discs on.

    Running it out in Majorca right now and just crushing my PBs on a daily basis. Can't wait for competition!
  • Nice.

    637 days to the Paralmpics?
    Live to ski
    Ski to live
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Nice.

    637 days to the Paralmpics?

    That was when he started the blog and therefore it's title.
    Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    The bike is running so well, that Fabian came by to get some pointers off me today. He also wanted some tips on how to win the Olympics TT ;)
  • TommyEss
    TommyEss Posts: 1,855
    Sometimes this forum just needs a facebook "Like" button!! Nice one!!
    Cannondale Synapse 105, Giant Defy 3, Giant Omnium, Giant Trance X2, EMC R1.0, Ridgeback Platinum, On One Il Pompino...
  • He looks like you just made all his dreams come true. Well done for taking time out of your busy schedule to Mae a fan happy!
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Well - the hard work and my choice in pursuit frame paid off.

    Won the Paracycling World Championships Pursuit today on the Look 596. Only one of it's kind here at the games. Lots of older models, but not the new one. Even had the Canadian Women's Pursuit squad checking it out as they have been waiting months for theirs!

    Anyway, riding the Kilo in the morning and going for another Gold.

    Me on podium:
  • many co grats. can't imagine the nerves beforehand especially whilst waiting to hear about classification.
    sure it was the bike and not you the canadians were checking out? :lol::wink:
  • Velonutter
    Velonutter Posts: 2,437
    Well done Colin, you're a real credit to people with disabilities, Chapeau!
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960


    Me and the bike in action