I suspect this won't go down well with many......
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GMB wrote:I totally agree with the OP.
I met Gary Kemp a few years ago and told him how much I liked playing guitar and being a primary songwriter in a band. He went mental, shouting at me that I was a Johnny-come-lately and he had been doing it for years!
If ever I get to race against him I'll knock him through the barricades.
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dieselengine wrote:Please excuse the outburst, but I need to get this off my chest. I am unable to suppress this any longer.
The rennaissance of cycling is a very positive thing, but the evangelism of many new bikies (not all I am sure, but so-called celebrities and sports people changing sport seem particularly vocal) has been getting on my wick for a year or 2 now, and I can no longer remain silent.
Are they as damnably irritating as a reformed/ex-smoker? No, they are even worse.
The article in this month's Cycling Plus has proven too much. Gary bleedin' Kemp! Sorry Gary, it's not just you, this has been brewing for a while, but the article including how "he loves the sport", having only participated for 4 years, has pushed me over the edge. He follows the irritating footsteps of Davina McCall, James Cracknell, Laurence Dallaglio, Lee Dixon and numerous others. Because of their privileged positions they have the opportunity to spout off about their "new love" that is cycling. There are other mere mortals who also use forums to do the same.
Therefore, to achieve some balance, I am going to express my views.
I, like thousands of others, have ridden bikes since I was 5 or 6 (apart from 3 years after I learned to drive aged 17). I am now in my mid 40s. Many of us, me included, are club cyclists. We discovered the unending joys of cycling (which includes times of great suffering), and the beautiful brutality of the sport, years ago, and it is woven into who we are and the lives we lead.
The fact that many new cyclists have missed out on this joy, or spurned it as being too "alternative" is their loss, but there are many of us who recognised the wonder of biking long, long ago. We grew into this past-time/sport in an organic way from childhood, through adolescence and into adulthood. We have made mistakes aplenty, and suffered as a result, but this is part of the joy. It is a rite of passage. Many of us were guided/encouraged in the passion we love by similar souls to us, and many have returned that guidance/encouragement as we have grown.
It is pleasing to see others discovering the same passion that we have enjoyed for decades, and I do hope they derive the same pleasure from their biking as I have/do from mine.
But please, whilst we are delighted to welcome you to our ranks, please spare us the pseudo bikie claptrap of how you love this sport/activity. You may well do, but if you are a late arrival to our party, please think twice before you mark yourself as a "johnny-come-lately" cycling evangelist ****hole!
Remember, there are thousands of us who have been quietly loving the biking life for years. We don't want or need to hear your preachings. We were converted long, long ago.
I'll get me coat......
To be honest, the more Gary Kemps, Alan Sugars, Boris Johnsons et al we have to legitimise our sport and bring it into the mainstream, the better
I too have been riding bikes for 40 years- so what??
I'm not any more worthy than someone who has just bought an Apollo from Halfords yesterday.
It's this ridiculuously outdated snobbish attitude that harms our sport- not the supposed credentials of famous new cyclists0 -
Ands wrote:GMB wrote:I totally agree with the OP.
I met Gary Kemp a few years ago and told him how much I liked playing guitar and being a primary songwriter in a band. He went mental, shouting at me that I was a Johnny-come-lately and he had been doing it for years!
If ever I get to race against him I'll knock him through the barricades.
Woooh, you're a bit highly strung tonight, aren't you?
Anyway, to cut a long story short I've been here since 2003, so there
Apologies, just feeling a bit Raw, but I really Don't Need This Pressu....sorry I'll stop there....Trying Is The First Step Towards Failure
De Rosa Milanino :-
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GMB wrote:Ands wrote:GMB wrote:I totally agree with the OP.
I met Gary Kemp a few years ago and told him how much I liked playing guitar and being a primary songwriter in a band. He went mental, shouting at me that I was a Johnny-come-lately and he had been doing it for years!
If ever I get to race against him I'll knock him through the barricades.
Woooh, you're a bit highly strung tonight, aren't you?
Anyway, to cut a long story short I've been here since 2003, so there
Apologies, just feeling a bit Raw, but I really Don't Need This Pressu....sorry I'll stop there....
I've been following this thread, and I'll tell you I know this much is.....true, ah, ahhh,ah,ah, haaaaaa..true.
Taxi for 1 pleeze.0 -
I saw sir Alan Sugar on his bike in the south of France! shouted out the car window go sugar go! wo hooo got the thumbs up !
If he/she wants to ride a bike let them!hills are made for climbing .....
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1990 Mike Mullet 531c
1980 BSA javerlin
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I've been breathing for 31 years and 10 months now, and I can't stand to see Johnny-come-lately so-called babies and toddlers who have just taken it up in the past couple of years.
Next time I see one breathing I'm going to beat it to death.
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mr_poll wrote:How long do I have to be cycling for before I can have opinion on this sport and tell people how much I like it?
please dont read this until May 2012 !0 -
I've been riding a bike for 60yrs now since the age of 3yrs .....and I'm getting a little 'Pi***ed off" with it right now...I just need a rest... :?0
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Maybe we should start a new thread called 'celebs on cycles'? Here is my contribution and I have no doubt Kelly has been riding a bike for years and is no way jumping on the bandwagon!
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OP to paraphrase err you- I suspect this wont go down too well but.....
http://youtu.be/ZZWp5F4IRpw
love youDeath or Glory- Just another Story0 -
And the good news is........ you don't have to buy a ticket. Or join a sect.
Relax, the best thing about cycling is..... it is exactly what you want it to be.
No subscription.
No rules.
Just you.
Oh, and a bike of course :oops: But it's not about the bike.The older I get the faster I was0 -
john-e-big-guns wrote:I've been riding a bike for 60yrs now since the age of 3yrs .....and I'm getting a little 'Pi***ed off" with it right now...I just need a rest... :?
That's blimming amazing riding a bike for 57 years, I'm knackered after a couple of hours. :shock:
No wonder your fed up mind, you must have missed out on all sorts while you've been out on your bike all that time.
2 questions though,
If you started the ride when you were 3 and finished when you were 60 did you start on a bike that was a bit big for you and grow into it??
And secondly, what did you do about No 2 breaks, ahem, rolling your own cuban cigars like , I imagine it could have got messy at times.
Anyhow, well done0 -
Brilliant! Everyone disagrees with the OP. My faith in humanity is restored0
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Well some of us model our lives on celebrities, so it's important to us when they take up cycling, it validates our very existence. Having seen that picture now, I'm going to lower my saddle a foot and get some high heeled sandals to ride in . . .Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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Oh dear.
I secretly think the same about cycling sometimes. It always used to be MY thing, that none of my mates did. I was always the only one going on about some random race in North West Europe, or cycling distances they couldn't believe (since the shops was a long way)
Now some guys I used to know from Uni who sneered at me now have pictures of themselves in HTC kit ontop of some French mountain, or are spanking on about how amazing their new Garmin gizmo is.
It privately really irritates me. Selfish and totally wrong of course, and I'd never say it shouldn't be that way (since it's all obviously great) but it does occasionally wind me up (in private).0 -
Stone Glider wrote:And the good news is........ you don't have to buy a ticket. Or join a sect.
Relax, the best thing about cycling is..... it is exactly what you want it to be.
No subscription.
No rules.
Just you.
Oh, and a bike of course :oops: But it's not about the bike.
No rules?? NO RULES??? :shock: This is the problem with all the newbies joining the sport, the unwritten rules don't get through to them all :x0 -
Don't say what you mean
You might spoil your face
If you walk in the crowd
You won't leave any trace
It's always the same
You're jumping someone else's train
It won't take you long
To learn the new smile
You'll have to adapt
Or you'll be out of style
It's always the same
You're jumping someone else's train
If you pick up on it quick
You can say you were there
Again and again and again
You're jumping someone else's train
It's the latest wave
That you've been craving for
The old ideal
Was getting such a bore
Now you're back in line
Going not quite quite as far
But in half the time
Everyone's happy
They're finally all the same
'cause everyone's jumping
Everyone else's train
Jumping someone else's train
Jumping someone else's train
Jumping someone else's train0 -
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GMB wrote:If ever I get to race against him I'll knock him through the barricades.
Frankly, for inflicting "Gold" on the listening public, it'd be just desserts....
David"It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal0 -
well, I do slightly sympathise with the OP but guess what I do, I don't read the articles. Good for them though and better than having celebs moaning about cyclists or encouraging others to run'em over.0
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kieranb wrote:well, I do slightly sympathise with the OP but guess what I do, I don't read the articles. Good for them though and better than having celebs moaning about cyclists or encouraging others to run'em over.
True [1]. Beats the oh-so-predictable rantings of Clarkson, James Martin or Matthew "Tory Boy" Parris any day!
David
[1] Rest assured, not a Gary Kemp-based pun this time."It is not enough merely to win; others must lose." - Gore Vidal0 -
Pross wrote:Stone Glider wrote:And the good news is........ you don't have to buy a ticket. Or join a sect.
Relax, the best thing about cycling is..... it is exactly what you want it to be.
No subscription.
No rules.
Just you.
Oh, and a bike of course :oops: But it's not about the bike.
No rules?? NO RULES??? :shock: This is the problem with all the newbies joining the sport, the unwritten rules don't get through to them all :x
or a sense of humourYou've no won the Big Cup since 1902!0 -
You know what?
The OP was right!
It didn't go down wellNone of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Oh dear.
I secretly think the same about cycling sometimes. It always used to be MY thing, that none of my mates did. I was always the only one going on about some random race in North West Europe, or cycling distances they couldn't believe (since the shops was a long way)
Now some guys I used to know from Uni who sneered at me now have pictures of themselves in HTC kit ontop of some French mountain, or are spanking on about how amazing their new Garmin gizmo is.
It privately really irritates me. Selfish and totally wrong of course, and I'd never say it shouldn't be that way (since it's all obviously great) but it does occasionally wind me up (in private).
I can see where you're coming from. The OP on the other hand is totally ott.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
pauldavid wrote:Who is this dieselengine bloke who's spouting off. :x
I've loved cycling much longer than you, you jonny come lately.
I wish you'd pipe down I'm trying to concentrate on my fave celeb cyclists and what their upto. :shock:
We were here first so jog on
True: I occasionally cycle with a 76 year old who used to grass track race on bamboo wheels with tubs :shock: - so I consider myself a jonny come latelyWhen I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells0 -
I suppose something akin to this: http://www.cycleexif.com/townsend-grass-track
Even has the tape on the tubs to stop it rolling off. Something which my 76 yeay old friend fondly remembers as it gave him a chance to be seen to by the nurses
by the way thats nice looking bike to meWhen I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells0 -
http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/some_an ... _ever_read
I love that some posters come on and spout their shite and then never have any comeback... Not so much "Johhny come lately" as, "Johnny come too soon and then can't get it up again"
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Rick Chasey wrote:Oh dear.
I secretly think the same about cycling sometimes. It always used to be MY thing, that none of my mates did. I was always the only one going on about some random race in North West Europe, or cycling distances they couldn't believe (since the shops was a long way)
Now some guys I used to know from Uni who sneered at me now have pictures of themselves in HTC kit ontop of some French mountain, or are spanking on about how amazing their new Garmin gizmo is.
It privately really irritates me. Selfish and totally wrong of course, and I'd never say it shouldn't be that way (since it's all obviously great) but it does occasionally wind me up (in private).
There is certainly something about being part of an exclusive club that can feel ruined by popularity - just look at all the sportive-dissing threads for evidence - but to actually whinge about it?0 -
Ive only been cycling 2 monthes now but ive been running from I was 11 so maybe if the OP lets me cycle I can let him run :idea:0