CX and MX bike discussion threads...

tptvmbircn
tptvmbircn Posts: 782
edited January 2012 in Commuting chat
I've looked at the Bordman CX one, I have a Surly KM classed as a MX but obviously known as CX's, you have road bikes with list your bikes here and vice versa for MTB's.

You seem to get hated with a CX build, where do we go? should another sub forum be created?
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  • SimonAH
    SimonAH Posts: 3,730
    Haters gonna hate.

    It's because of all the expensive dentistry that dedicated roadies have to pay for everytime the tarmac is a bit rough. :D
    FCN 5 belt driven fixie for city bits
    CAADX 105 beastie for bumpy bits
    Litespeed L3 for Strava bits

    Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
  • SimonAH wrote:
    Haters gonna hate.

    It's because of all the expensive dentistry that dedicated roadies have to pay for everytime the tarmac is a bit rough. :D

    Well that was simple haha, at leat the Americans love me lol
  • We are the Bishops of Bath and Wells of the cycling world.

    You see, We are colossal perverts. No form of cycling depravity is too low for us. Road, bridleway or track -- We'll do anything on anything.

    and proudly :D
    Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
    2009 Specialized Tricross Sport
    2011 Trek Madone 4.5
    2012 Felt F65X
    Proud CX Pervert and quiet roadie. 12 mile commuter
  • Yes there should be a separate thread for this sort unnatural deviancy.

    Having said that, I don’t qualify until October when I get my CX. At which time I assume that I get added to some kind of register?

    Epic FRS, with Hope Race, for the rough stuff
    Hardrock for casual wear, weddings, christenings, Bar Mitzvahs etc
    Epic FSR for the real stuff
    Hardrock Sport utility bike
    Boardman CX Team
  • We are the Bishops of Bath and Wells of the cycling world.

    You see, We are colossal perverts. No form of cycling depravity is too low for us. Road, bridleway or track -- We'll do anything on anything.

    and proudly :D

    This right here, that's exactly my point I just go anywhere and fast. Kieran, did'nt you invent the bike type rankings? I think I saw it sometime ago in a thread where by use CX'ers were perv's absolutely and Recumbents were pornstars? interesting theories but yet somewhat true I imagine?
  • I did - I think I managed to insult everyone in one single post that day (as opposed to 3 or 4 like normal :lol: )
    Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
    2009 Specialized Tricross Sport
    2011 Trek Madone 4.5
    2012 Felt F65X
    Proud CX Pervert and quiet roadie. 12 mile commuter
  • I did - I think I managed to insult everyone in one single post that day (as opposed to 3 or 4 like normal :lol: )

    Haha, I did chuckle quite a bit at that!
  • jejv
    jejv Posts: 566
    We are the Bishops of Bath and Wells of the cycling world.

    You see, We are colossal perverts. No form of cycling depravity is too low for us. Road, bridleway or track -- We'll do anything on anything.

    and proudly :D
    The Bishop of Bath and Wells ??

    Pah!

    I seem to recall that he had a thing or two to learn about depravity.

    I laugh at your puny 35mm tyres, which could be inflated with a gnat's fart.

    When engaging in MX, rule 18 should be flagrantly disregarded. Club lycra and wraparrounds are preferred.
    Alternatively, casual clothing may be worn, and if possible, front and rear panniers fitted.
    It's important to keep the MTB'ers in their place.
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    What's MX?

    I thought it was this:MX-vs-ATV-Reflex-001.jpg
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • I'm not sure anyone *hates* CX riders, in fact I'd say that for a few types of commutes they're probably a good weapon of choice. If I had* to go down a towpath every day, for example, or a disused railway, then a CX bike would be ideal. Hell, I even have one myself for snowy days.

    The thing I don't get, however, is the people who ride them on the road all the time in the mistaken belief that a road bike is too fragile for use on the road, or that a CX bike is in some way always better suited to commuting.

    * But I probably wouldn't, I'd go a little way further and go on the road so that I could have a faster bike.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,773
    Is this like a CX Anonymous meeting place. I have a Kona Jake, I've had it for a little over 2 years. I actually like it. I use it mainly for my commute, I do sometimes ride along gravel paths or tow paths on my commute. I occasionaly lap Richmond Park on it. I've even washed it a few times.
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    We are the Bishops of Bath and Wells of the cycling world.

    You see, We are colossal perverts. No form of cycling depravity is too low for us. Road, bridleway or track -- We'll do anything on anything.

    and proudly :D

    Finally someone who agrees with my view, perverts the lot of you :lol:

    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    my tricross got absolutely filthy yesterday from a ride up the coast from Liverpool to Southport most of it through fields

    has anyone ever noticed how ridiculously hard it is to ride through sand too
    Keeping it classy since '83
  • Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    CX bikes were only ever the "soft roaders" anyway - the Volvo All-Road or Subaru Outbacks of the bike world with a bit more ground & wheel clearance. The Chelsea Tractors are the MTBs that people commute on.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Rich158
    Nah, a full sus BSO would be a bike Chelsea Tractor :lol:
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • SimonAH
    SimonAH Posts: 3,730
    Na, the Chelsea tractors are the three grand status symbol DH bikes posed around town in by chavs who have keep them in the granny ring as they weigh roughly the same as Manchester.
    FCN 5 belt driven fixie for city bits
    CAADX 105 beastie for bumpy bits
    Litespeed L3 for Strava bits

    Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    SimonAH wrote:
    Na, the Chelsea tractors are the three grand status symbol DH bikes posed around town in by chavs who have keep them in the granny ring as they weigh roughly the same as Manchester.

    So...chelsea tractors are all stolen? :wink:
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    CX bikes were only ever the "soft roaders" anyway - the Volvo All-Road or Subaru Outbacks of the bike world with a bit more ground & wheel clearance. The Chelsea Tractors are the MTBs that people commute on.

    Nah I had CX's as the BMW X5's of the bike world, MTB's would be the Landrover equivalent - something built for proper off-roading
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    SimonAH wrote:
    Na, the Chelsea tractors are the three grand status symbol DH bikes posed around town in by chavs who have keep them in the granny ring as they weigh roughly the same as Manchester.

    hmmm are you calling me a Chav sir :wink: I have been known to ride my DH bike through Central London, (but only to get the train to the trails when my car is out of action)
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • Rich158 wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    CX bikes were only ever the "soft roaders" anyway - the Volvo All-Road or Subaru Outbacks of the bike world with a bit more ground & wheel clearance. The Chelsea Tractors are the MTBs that people commute on.

    Nah I had CX's as the BMW X5's of the bike world, MTB's would be the Landrover equivalent - something built for proper off-roading

    The thing is, as soon as you stick road tyres on most CXers, you'd be hard-pressed to differentiate them from a roadie at 50 paces - the brakes being the key giveaway.

    Bought mine for ice tyre capability whilst maintaining road speed with drops and added poor-weather capability of discs. But then I live in the Highlands and nobody so much as blinks if you have a big 4x4 on your drive.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Rich158 wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    CX bikes were only ever the "soft roaders" anyway - the Volvo All-Road or Subaru Outbacks of the bike world with a bit more ground & wheel clearance. The Chelsea Tractors are the MTBs that people commute on.

    Nah I had CX's as the BMW X5's of the bike world, MTB's would be the Landrover equivalent - something built for proper off-roading

    The thing is, as soon as you stick road tyres on most CXers, you'd be hard-pressed to differentiate them from a roadie at 50 paces - the brakes being the key giveaway.

    Bought mine for ice tyre capability whilst maintaining road speed with drops and added poor-weather capability of discs. But then I live in the Highlands and nobody so much as blinks if you have a big 4x4 on your drive.

    This is getting mighty close to being serious :wink: The thing is I'll always rip the piss out of the CX crowd whilst secretly admiring anyone who can ride what is essentially a road bike at speed off-road. Having seen the state of a few mates after CX races I can testify they're properly mental
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • Rich158 wrote:
    Having seen the state of a few mates after CX races I can testify they're properly mental

    Yup - any sport where you're expected to carry your bike is properly mental!
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Rich158 wrote:
    Having seen the state of a few mates after CX races I can testify they're properly mental

    Yup - any sport where you're expected to carry your bike is properly mental!

    What's that all about, riding your road bike through a field is bad enough without random obstacles being placed to make you get off, run for a bit and then try and re-mount at full speed in SPD's, tights and a bobble hat :shock:

    That's confirmed it not only are they a bunch of preverts they're also more than a sandwich short of a picnic :wink:
    pain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................

    Revised FCN - 2
  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    They make pretty nice tourers too though don't they? Nice strong frames more often than not with rack mounts. With many of them having disc brakes now too they're a good choice if you want a drop bar bike for touring.
  • notsoblue wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    They make pretty nice tourers too though don't they? Nice strong frames more often than not with rack mounts. With many of them having disc brakes now too they're a good choice if you want a drop bar bike for touring.

    Not as nice as a touring bike though, Shirley?
  • notsoblue wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    They make pretty nice tourers too though don't they? Nice strong frames more often than not with rack mounts. With many of them having disc brakes now too they're a good choice if you want a drop bar bike for touring.

    Not as nice as a touring bike though, Shirley?

    I'm not sure where one category ends and the next begins TBH...
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    notsoblue wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    They make pretty nice tourers too though don't they? Nice strong frames more often than not with rack mounts. With many of them having disc brakes now too they're a good choice if you want a drop bar bike for touring.

    Not as nice as a touring bike though, Shirley?

    I'm not sure where one category ends and the next begins TBH...

    Indeed. As far as I can see the main difference between the Croix de Fer and Genesis' main CX bike the Vapour is the frame alloy. Vin Cox circumnavigated the globe on a Croix de Fer.
  • bails87 wrote:
    What's MX?

    I thought it was this:MX-vs-ATV-Reflex-001.jpg

    well its called mx when you cross a 29er mtb with drop bars basically, the mx side of it apparently comes with the size of the tyres you can fit onto the 29er frame like 50c etc. I put it in the title just in case people classed it in that range, obviously an American thing.
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Ah, monstercross!
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • notsoblue wrote:
    notsoblue wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    It's also just occured to me that CX bikes are rapidly becoming the chelsea tractor of the bike world. How many are purchased and used soley for commuting and never see any real mud?????

    They make pretty nice tourers too though don't they? Nice strong frames more often than not with rack mounts. With many of them having disc brakes now too they're a good choice if you want a drop bar bike for touring.

    Not as nice as a touring bike though, Shirley?

    I'm not sure where one category ends and the next begins TBH...

    Indeed. As far as I can see the main difference between the Croix de Fer and Genesis' main CX bike the Vapour is the frame alloy. Vin Cox circumnavigated the globe on a Croix de Fer.

    Mine is just a bit of everything, used for commuting to long distance rides and it takes off on the road and takes off on the trail / mud. I ran a rigid salsa ala carte before this, but the bigger wheels and drop bars make it faster and more comfy, it has a good look to it also. the ala carte was nice but just felt like as though I didn't get anywhere however.