F***ing iTunes

montevideoguy

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Montevideoguy wrote:

Can we have a fanboy argument over what router is the best? Or which printer pwns all?

Dunno, you'd best ask Ray, see if he's interested.

I bought a Cisco router (WRT120N) a few weeeks back and it's utter pish. The selection I had to choose from was pitiful though.

sheepsteeth

i thought apple computers were the shittest?

montevideoguy

sheepsteeth wrote:

i thought apple computers were the shittest?

Teh future is teh tabletz

Raymondavalon

ricardo_smooth wrote:

all I know is my macbook pro is faster than any PC i've ever had the displeasure of using even 'higher specced' ones.

It's the OS and not the hardware, when will people realise that?

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Montevideoguy wrote:

Can we have a fanboy argument over what router is the best? Or which printer pwns all?

Dunno, you'd best ask Ray, see if he's interested.

I bought a Kodak printer, a wireless one. It rocks, now I can print all my hate mail I send to the Lib Dems cheaply..

Anonymous

Montevideoguy wrote:

Teh future is teh tabletz

I took loads of tablets, but that was in the past. It left me pretty messed up mentally. But it was AMAZING fun at the time.

montevideoguy

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Montevideoguy wrote:

Teh future is teh tabletz

I took loads of tablets, but that was in the past. It left me pretty messed up mentally. But it was AMAZING fun at the time.

Soon enough you'll be able to score some Metro to relive the glory days

ricardo_smooth

sheepsteeth wrote:

i thought apple computers were the sh1t. I'm just too tight to buy one... and i'm scared I might like it :shock:

Anonymous

So, a thread about someone asking for help with problems about iTunes, turns into another pointless receptacle for insane rabid mac carzies to shoot off at random people for no reason.
At least Sheeps is a GOOD troll. You guys are just pathetic.

ricardo_smooth

Whats crud, is crud........nothing else matters

Anonymous

Raymondavalon wrote:

Just stirring more hatred in the haters... I mean they need something to whinge about...

Arrestable offence now. Go to troll jail.

Andy

yeehaamcgee wrote:

At least Sheeps is a GOOD troll.

Debatable.

sheepsteeth

Andy wrote:

yeehaamcgee wrote:

At least Sheeps is a GOOD troll.

Debatable.

i'll deba your table in a minute.

paul.skibum

Someone - Ray I think - suggested that it was my PC and not itunes thast was to blame - Sorry but no. I have no issues with my PC for anything other than when it comes to it interfacing with iTunes - which considering its iTunes for Windows shows some problems.

As for converting the files to something WMP friendly - tried it - but iTunes wont let you - Apple is watching you to save you from copyright infringement.

Like I say - I'm going to buy the two films on DVD and get itunes off my computer.

Raymondavalon

paul.skibum wrote:

As for converting the files to something WMP friendly - tried it - but iTunes wont let you - Apple is watching you to save you from copyright infringement.

It's nothing to do with "Copyright Infringement" Windows Media Player will rip audio in .WMA format by default, until you change the preferences. iTunes will rip audio in .M4A by defualt, until you change the preferences.
However WMP and iTunes both support .MP3 and .WAV format by default.

The same applies to movies, there are various playback formats. Apple's iTunes supports .MOV, .MP4, (H-264 which is an open standard) and of course .M4V (which is essence is identical to MP4 so you can rename the extension)

WMP can play back MP4, MPG and AVI (plus some I know I've missed)
You can get DIVX plugins for WMP or use DIVX, VLC etc. to support other playback formats

As for your "Apple is watching you" comment, totally inaccurate. In both WMP and iTunes as well as most other playback software, you have the choice share info with Microsoft, Apple or whoever the software vendor is.

Anonymous

Just forget the proprietary MS & Apple stuff. Plenty of excellent free / open source stuff out there that will rip whatever you want without restriction, convert to all the main formats, and if you stick to DRM free downloads and/or rip from your CD/DVD to non-DRM'd formats you can happily do what you like with the stuff.

Audio, I still prefer to buy the CDs and rip them lossless to Flac, store everything on my NAS and convert as necessary (or more than often just stream Flac direct to one of my Squeezeboxes). A few download sites do Flac though, but CDs become so dirt cheap in a short time, they're cheaper than the downloads.

DVDs and Blu-Rays with "bonus copy". Balls to that, I'll copy it myself un-DRM'd thank you very much then I can truly play anywhere. Not that I do much, but I'd much rather the disc than a DRM download.

cooldad

deadkenny wrote:

Just forget the proprietary MS & Apple stuff. Plenty of excellent free / open source stuff out there that will rip whatever you want without restriction, convert to all the main formats, and if you stick to DRM free downloads and/or rip from your CD/DVD to non-DRM'd formats you can happily do what you like with the stuff.

Audio, I still prefer to buy the CDs and rip them lossless to Flac, store everything on my NAS and convert as necessary (or more than often just stream Flac direct to one of my Squeezeboxes). A few download sites do Flac though, but CDs become so dirt cheap in a short time, they're cheaper than the downloads.

DVDs and Blu-Rays with "bonus copy". Balls to that, I'll copy it myself un-DRM'd thank you very much then I can truly play anywhere. Not that I do much, but I'd much rather the disc than a DRM download.

I have absoluely no idea what you just said.
Something like putting my LP's onto cassette?

cooldad

Squeezebox?

montevideoguy

I can't remember the last time I actually paid for music.

Are there any MP3 players/pmp devices that support Flac?

Daz555

cooldad wrote:

Something like putting my LP's onto cassette?

Yeah a bit. FLAC is a lossless compressed audio format. Works the same as an MP3 but the key difference is that it is exactly the same quality as the CD original. MP3 etc are all compression formats in which audio quality is lost due to the compression techniques used.

FLAC files are larger than their MP3 equivalents.

Daz555

Montevideoguy wrote:

I can't remember the last time I actually paid for music.

Are there any MP3 players/pmp devices that support Flac?

There are apps on both iPhone and Android which have FLAC support. As for dedicated players, there are a few out there from the likes of Samsung and SanDisk and I seem to recall that some models of iPod could be hacked to play flac as well.

bails87

Is it possible to turn the annoying noises off in iTunes?

And no, I don't mean my Bjork collection

Everytime I click on something I get a stupid "shwoop" noise, and there doesn't seem to be any way to turn it off, seems strange that something meant for playing music would, by default, make annoying noises over the music you're using it to listen to :?

Apple is teh gheyzorz, windoze, micro$oft, BMW, yadda yadda.

Anonymous

deadkenny wrote:

if you stick to DRM free downloads and/or rip from your CD/DVD to non-DRM'd formats you can happily do what you like with the stuff.

And therein lies the problem, his videos, and the ones I am annoyed about, are only available through iTunes right now.

As for FLAC? Bollocks to FLAC. It's a niche codec only used by a small group of particularly elitist geeks.

Anonymous

Flac just makes it flexible. It's an archive format as far as I'm concerned, but I can stream flac direct at full quality to my Hi-Fi and other kit around the house without having to convert it to some other format. My MP3 player, being non-Apple and fully of geekiness, also supports Flac so no need to convert there either. Most PC players will do Flac.

But if I want to convert to MP3 I can, or AAC or anything else. Some day down the line when some other format is popular I can just convert again from Flac to whatever is the thing of the day without loss. If my CDs were MP3 I'd be looking at some loss when converting and may need to re-rip them.

And anyway, my NAS with 4TB of storage, plenty of space to stick all my CDs on, possibly even all my DVDs!. No more discs, stream and play anywhere.


Squeezebox BTW - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox ... sic_player)

Anonymous

I still say "MEH" to FLAC. I'll stick to WAV, (or purely because my own setup is media-centre based, WMA lossless).

In these days of ever-expanding hard discs, WAV is not really a problem any more.

junglist_matty

I hate iTunes, the library is just totally gash, can't sort by track number so if like me you listen to a lot of DJ mixes split into tracks the track order is completely wrong as it sorts by album artist then artist.... The only way to get it to sort by track number is to delete other tags from the MP3 but then I don't want to do that because my tags work well for every single other library software I use (professional sound applications and home network sharing).

The single most annoying thing about OS X is no cut and paste feature; have to have loads of "finder" windows open at any one time when working with files or constantly copying, then deleting old files/folders....

Other than that, OS X is an awesome bit of software; for desktops I like windows 7, for laptops, I will never have another windows laptop ever again, rubbish battery life (unless you buy a super huge battery doubling the size of the laptop), and poorly made.... My white macbook of 4 years has only needed a new battery and charger (was on 700 charge cycles).


Songbird is my favourite media library and also can play podcasts

Anonymous

yeehaamcgee wrote:

In these days of ever-expanding hard discs, WAV is not really a problem any more.

True, but 200 CDs @ 700mb average each = 140gb vs 400mb average per CD on FLAC = 80gb.

A small saving given disc space these days unless you have a really massive collection, but it's less to back up and smaller files to stream over a wireless network (or even the Internet).

WMA lossless, FLAC, WAV, all the same really. Only difference is the file size.

I could archive in WMA lossless also, but it's more proprietary and ties me to MS a bit.

junglist_matty

I don't get the who thing against mp3.... nearly everything with a music player supports playback of mp3 (car stereo, phones, tablets etc.)

a song encoded at 320kbps versus a flac or wav file is almost impossible to notice any difference in the quality... Certainly I'll be using mp3 regardless of the counter argument; its easy, well supported and portable (doesn't take me 5 mins per CD to transfer 20 tunes over my home network for example).

Anonymous

junglist_matty wrote:

a song encoded at 320kbps versus a flac or wav file is almost impossible to notice any difference in the quality...

If I only listened on my laptop, or on an mp3 player, I'd agree with you. But I don't.
Different strokes for different folks and all that.

IcarusGreen

I now read this thread when I have trouble sleeping! YAWN!