Rant about graduates

cooldad

yeehaamcgee wrote:

cooldad wrote:

You do not exist. You think you do, but that's what I want you to think.

:shock:
What the...?
You're either messing with my head, or confirming my suspicions.

Look up, see the eye watching you now?

Anonymous

Yes, yes I do! :shock:

Kaise

wow, well this is an unexpected turn for the books, the grad just told the chief eng to fark off and stormed off!

we have lift off i now have my phone on my desk ready to record any more audio! wish i had caught it the first time round

i wonder if there is something under lying here, something non work replated, like his motorised bicycle hasnt quite taken off.......... :?

cooldad

Lovers tiff?

Stevo_666

welshkev wrote:

i can speak 3 and i only got 3 GCSE's!!!

English, Welsh and Bollox?

welshkev

Stevo 666 wrote:

welshkev wrote:

i can speak 3 and i only got 3 GCSE's!!!

English, Welsh and Bollox?

close, english, spanish and bollox

Daz555

Sounds like a plonker. Whether he has been to Uni or not is irrelevent.

Now I work in IT where, rather surprisingly, IT degrees are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard and about as common as Gary Glitter fan club members.

Plenty of grads in IT generally of course, but none of them seem to have degrees in IT. Quick survey of IT people I know reveals Geology to be the top choice.

paul.skibum

Some people are pricks some people aren't - not sure its a graduate vs non graduate issue.

Where I work I occasionally get dragged into helping out with stuff outside my experience and I ask lots of questions to make sure I don't fudge up. My boss says he would rather have me working on stuff than one of the other guys who thinks he knows everything but gets things wrong.

End result - dont assume you know everything - if in doubt seek experienced assistance. In Kaiser's case clearly the guy is a knob.

Andy

What a waste of a thread.

MountainMonster

Awesome story man, i'm currently studying diplomacy and geo-economics, and there are a few students here, who no matter what is said, everyone else is wrong. One guy whose dad is the finance minister for one of the embassys in town seems to think because his dad does something for work, it means he is 100% qualified even when he is proven wrong, and when proven wrong, he says we are idiots for not believeing him. It's well funny.

cicatriz

Reminds me of a classic quote from Jaws.

Hooper: Quint, that doesn't prove a damn thing!
Quint: Well it proves one thing, Mr. Hooper. It proves that you wealthy college boys don't have the education enough to admit when you're wrong.

t0pc4t

tbh sounds to me like if this bloke had been an apprentice and you had been at uni he would be hounding you for not having had 'real world experience' my point being he sounds like a prat regardless of what and where he studied.

I did uni, Mech Eng for 5 years with a year out in industry and worked all my summers, it was great, enjoyable and useful. My time in industry also taught me to respect the experience of others.

Howevr, in the last year of my BEng I met the delightful lady who is now Mrs TC and decided to stay down south to be with her. Didn't fancy my chances of getting into a production engineering role down here (what I had been doing at Michelin during my year out / summers) and so I thought I'd give IT a go.

11 years later and I've not looked back, the degree got me in the door at Oracle and I've been learning since.

It's all good. Some of my team have degrees, some don't. When I applied for my first job the bloke recruiting me was pretty open about the fact that my degree and the grade I got was about reducing the number of CVs they had to read more than anything else.

iPete

Learnt more in 3 months working than 3 years at uni, some might say its linked but my ability to drink has gone in the other direction!

junglist_matty

Daz555 wrote:

Sounds like a plonker. Whether he has been to Uni or not is irrelevent.

Now I work in IT where, rather surprisingly, IT degrees are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard and about as common as Gary Glitter fan club members.

Plenty of grads in IT generally of course, but none of them seem to have degrees in IT. Quick survey of IT people I know reveals Geology to be the top choice.

All depends what IT course and what IT job you do / get....

I started out doing the generic "software engineering" degree which was totally rubbish, more emphasis on software design and a load of other brown bulls.... I hated it and asked my student advisor for a more hands on degree and found "computing for real time systems" which was totally different... We actually learnt a lot of stuff and funnily enough, it was amongst the highest drop out rate at the university.

A lot of the stuff I learnt at uni is relevant to my current job and helped me a lot but I can see how the more generic degree's are pointless....

Either way, degree or no degree, you'll can still be a pr!ck if you want to be one....

spongtastic

what an arrogant tool.

I failed my degree, and my job has nothing to do with what I studied, I'm in senior management but still admit when I'm wrong (sometimes embarrasingly) If you expect to go to work, argue a case you can't win like a complete twunt then you deserved to be owned whether you've got a degree or not.

Mind you, 1st from Oxford? He'll be your Managers, Managers Manager if his father Lord Harry Harrisflaps of Dangleberry spends his money wisely.

cooldad

spongtastic wrote:

Mind you, 1st from Oxford? He'll be your Managers, Managers Manager if his father Lord Harry Harrisflaps of Dangleberry spends his money wisely.

One will have you know one can arrange that with a snap of one's fingers, no need to mention filthy lucre.

lvquestpaddler

When I left school I did an apprenticeship in masonry and a vocational HNC in Building. After 10 yrs I went off to uni to study Geography/Environmental Science which I took up to M.Sc. level, one step off a doctorate. After a year of fruitlessly searching for a job with my new found pieces of paper I contacted my former employer and got my job back. Been there for 8 yrs and now appreciate what a damn good job it was anyway(pay is mediocre but it's not all about dosh), I met my partner at this time too(late 2002) and in 2009 moved to the sticks. My job is now becoming untenable due to the cost of diesel and travel time/vehicle costs, and I've an interview next Thursday for a job as a binman locally- which at the top of the scale is only £3k less than my current highly skilled job. UK eh?
But, I've seen both ends of the spectrum and I'll shovel shecht to keep a roof over my head, I'm not some aloof twat!!!
My career ladder does seem like a step ladder though, up one side and down the other!

Briggo

Im not sure whats worse, him for being him or yourself for saying douche bag.

Anonymous

Common enough type of graduate. They just picked the wrong job. They should be Tory MPs.

Real graduates just got pissed all the time, did crap all work and scraped through with a 2-2 or 3rd, and get a job without their head up their arse.

In my case the uni route just worked out as a right laugh and a foot in the door to getting some decent cash, but nothing else, and I've got no illusions that I know more than any of my colleagues. Plainly because I don't.

Come across a few of these types too who've got into management and are brought into projects and go about telling everyone how crap they are and systematically start to boot out the existing team and bring in their mates who are all similar.

tlw1

deadkenny wrote:

Real graduates just got pissed all the time, did crap all work and scraped through with a 2-2 or 3rd, and get a job without their head up their ars*.

You know me so well

Now doing an MBA, thought it would be similar in the drinking - but not so far

Richie63

welshkev wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

welshkev wrote:

i can speak 3 and i only got 3 GCSE's!!!

English, Welsh and Bollox?

close, english, spanish and bollox

More like Ingleesh spaneesh and testeeeees then

angry_bird

Epic. All the American students on our course are grads and a few (about half of them) seem to think because of this and the fact they're older they're superior to all of us in every way.

They have degrees but fuck all common sense. Nothing better than when one of them decided to interupt a lecture because they thought they new better and having the lecturer spend 20 minutes explaining exactly how stupid there point had been to them in front of 200 people.

IcarusGreen

It just amazes me how many people I know who's career has nothing to do with what they studied at university. My wife has a 2.1 in Law and yet has never gone near it for a career, she is now an accountant and studying for higher qualifications in that.

I never went to Uni and joined the army at 16, got NVQ's and city & guilds when younger and now have a HND in automotive engineering and a level 5 diploma in management. I'm soon going to do the extra work to turn my HND and diploma into two degrees.

University always bemused me, why study and pay stupid amounts for the pleasure when you can work for an employer who will sometimes pay for your exams and you get real on the job experience. It will have taken me 10 yrs longer to get my degrees but I'm qualified and experienced in my chosen career and the only debt I have is my mortgage whilst I earn more than most of my mates who went to uni!

whyamihere

IcarusGreen wrote:

University always bemused me, why study and pay stupid amounts for the pleasure when you can work for an employer who will sometimes pay for your exams and you get real on the job experience. It will have taken me 10 yrs longer to get my degrees but I'm qualified and experienced in my chosen career and the only debt I have is my mortgage whilst I earn more than most of my mates who went to uni!

For many people, uni is a waste of time (see anyone doing an arts degree for an example). Apprenticeships are generally a better idea. I'm bloody happy to be doing my degree though, and not just for the job prospects at the end of it.

angry_bird

IcarusGreen

To be fair you do have to go to uni if you want to do certain things though, but I do agree with your point, it strikes me as being fairly pointless if you spend 3 years doing a degree and not use it when you can do something more useful with your time. One of my best mates left school, went into a job working as the bitch basically in rail/engineering thingy company 3 years later they're paying for him to get qualifications while he works, sending him to the USA for months at a time to work and train out there, he's loving it, earning money and learning on the job... and no massive debt.

Anonymous

IcarusGreen wrote:

University always bemused me, why study and pay stupid amounts for the pleasure when you can work for an employer who will sometimes pay for your exams and you get real on the job experience.

Back in my day uni was free and you got a grant (okay some people's parents had to contribute) to pay for bed, food & beer.

Though I did a sandwich course so had some "experience" in my year out.

Bearing in mind that this is the last chance you have to have a laugh and not having to do real work, until you retire, so an opportunity worth taking.

97th choice

I think that Kaiser should be professor of brilliant engineering at Hogwarts. Huzzah!

TheNorthernTrain

University for me wasn't really about the degree... It was about life experience. Was it worth the debt I am now in... Hell yes! Would I do it all over again if I could and have double the debt! YES...

3 years of pretty much constant partying and barely any studying, 6-10 hours of lectures a week... aahahaha.

Anonymous

north-sure wrote:

University for me wasn't really about the degree... It was about life experience.
3 years of pretty much constant partying and barely any studying, 6-10 hours of lectures a week... aahahaha.

Then why the fugg even bother gong to Uni, when you can do that anyway.

Stevo_666

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Then why the fugg even bother gong to Uni, when you can do that anyway.

Cheap beer & food, loads of 18-21 yr old girls looking to get their 'life experience' :twisted: etc etc.

Apart from having a good time, some people use their degree as a ticket to a good/well paid career. Doesn't work for everyone or stop you being a cheesewand, but I know plenty people who needed a degree to get into their very nicely paid jobs.