where should i get my wheels built

mudcow007

there was a thread on here a few weeks back (i cant find it) were someone was buying wheels. they were recommended some old school builders

any ideas who they were?

i need some new hoops!

UndercoverElephant

Spa cycles?

Personally, I build my own. 8)

asprilla

Harry Rowland?

walkingbootweather

Previous discussion and link here.

Think KB went for Spa cycles in the end. Haven't heard if he has received them or what he thinks yet....

rolf_f

Spa Cycles. Next question!

mudcow007

UndercoverElephant wrote:

Spa cycles?

thats the one!

cheers ears

i wish i could build my own....if i did i think they would turn out like pringles (bent)

lateralus

very happy with a set I got from wheelroom.co.uk

UndercoverElephant

mudcow007 wrote:

UndercoverElephant wrote:

Spa cycles?

thats the one!

cheers ears

i wish i could build my own....if i did i think they would turn out like pringles (bent)

http://www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php

Buy the book, build the stand. Wheels aren't really that hard once you've done one.

mudcow007

Ahhh just spoken to "Spa" who said that they wouldn't ever build with Mavic rims ever again, but they do highly recommend "Rigida Sputnik" rims as they are indestructible


but i want Mavic as they are black with lots of yellow stickers

Kieran_Burns

walkingbootweather wrote:

Previous discussion and link here.

Think KB went for Spa cycles in the end. Haven't heard if he has received them or what he thinks yet....

I did, they haven't (Monday), will let you know

(friendly bunch on the phone!)

UndercoverElephant

mudcow007 wrote:

Ahhh just spoken to "Spa" who said that they wouldn't ever build with Mavic rims ever again, but they do highly recommend "Rigida Sputnik" rims as they are indestructible


but i want Mavic as they are black with lots of yellow stickers

Do a search around the ninterwebs; Mavic rims are made of cheese these days. Rigida rims are pretty good. And cheap. I don't build wheels with anything else. All three of them.

Kieran_Burns

I'm getting the Rigidas for my Tricross - i thought these rims were black anyway

rolf_f

mudcow007 wrote:

but i want Mavic as they are black with lots of yellow stickers

Black Rigidas and some Morrisons stickers - Bob's your Uncle!

mudcow007

well.....i ended up buying some from chainreaction cycles (hopefully my card details wont get stolen)

im all excited now woohoo!

Kieran_Burns

36 spoke btw...

mudcow007

cheers for that but these are for my mtb bike

so i needed a disc rim an a v rim

i think when my current tricross rims die i will get some of them Sputniks they look rock solid

UndercoverElephant

Just built up a MTB rear wheel for a guy at work. Rigida Zac 19s laced onto an old-school Hugi hub. Very nice-looking wheel, he's bought me loads of beer to say thank-you.

walkingbootweather

mudcow007 wrote:

well.....i ended up buying some from chainreaction cycles (hopefully my card details wont get stolen)

im all excited now woohoo!

A curious decision.

You ask for recommendations on where you should get your wheels built suggesting you are looking for an old school builder.
You get some reasonable recommendations, none suggesting hand built wheels are anything other that a good thing to buy.
You buy what I assume are factory produced wheels from a mail order specialist.

Its your money and your decision (and I hope you will be very happy with your purchase) but why the apparent change in tack?

mudcow007

to be honest i was going to say if i buy all the bits n bobs how much would you charge?

i might save that for when i next need some though

sketchley

Asprilla wrote:

Harry Rowland?

That's where I went. Very happy with them.

mudcow007

walkingbootweather wrote:

You ask for recommendations on where you should get your wheels built suggesting you are looking for an old school builder.
You get some reasonable recommendations, none suggesting hand built wheels are anything other that a good thing to buy.
You buy what I assume are factory produced wheels from a mail order specialist.

the old school builder wouldn't build using the rims that i wanted so being the brat i am...i found the rims i really wanted. chances are this decision wil/ might bite me in the ass when the rims collapse (i hope not!!)

the wheels are hand built (so the crc website says)

sketchley

32 Spoke on Ultegra Hubs with Rigida DP18

mudcow007

mine are



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SimonAH

I could be bribed into lacing them up for you if you want? I build a fair wheel if I do say so myself. :oops:

ride_whenever

If you want to find a decent local builder, pop round your various lbs and look for a mechanic who either does, or used to BMX and builds their own wheels.

Speak to the guy who'll be doing the wheels and they'll usually build them better than the guys who've only built road wheels etc.

Kieran_Burns

The thing I don't get with wheel building is how do you know which spoke to put in which hole?

Is there like a certain angle they're meant to be at or something?

walkingbootweather

Sorry Mudcow I'm confused. What is it you have bought? It is just rims or made up wheels? The pictures you posted appear to be rims of different widths, designed for slightly different purposes - Were you intending to have different wheels on the same bike or are you getting 2 pairs of wheels?

I'm no expert on wheel building and am just trying to understand your logic. Perhaps there are things I need to consider for my next purchase.

ride_whenever

Kieran_Burns wrote:

The thing I don't get with wheel building is how do you know which spoke to put in which hole?

Is there like a certain angle they're meant to be at or something?

It's to do with spoke length, you can build up 3x, 2x, radial and even higher number of crosses. Basically you lace up one set (ie one side of the hub, leading or trailing) then when you lace the other half of the hub you twist the hub round and start lacing basically counting the crosses and as you tighten it all up it sort of sorts itself out.

The real skill here lies in getting the valve in one of the big gaps and lined up to the hub logo! If you're interested, buy a handbuilt locally and ask if you can watch them being laced for a pack of biccies or beer.. (For people we have a dislike of we have higher labour rates to watch, posted on the door: Labour £25 p/h, £35 p/h to watch, £75 p/h to "help")

mudcow007

they are for the same bike an yes they are different rims, one is disc specific an the other has a brake surface (for v's)

the bike is going to be used for chucking up an down hills in deepest darkest Waleshire

i chose them rims as they are suppose to be quite tough.

i always use to use D521 rims but they dont make them anymore



building is a fine art, which with my fists of ham would be pointless to attempt as i know i would "taco" a rim. im told front wheels are easier than rears as with a rear you have to "dish" the wheel to offset for the cassette an stuff......its dark arts to me

mudcow007

ride_whenever wrote:

Labour £25 p/h, £35 p/h to watch, £75 p/h to "help")

i was quoted with £45 per wheel in my LBS

UndercoverElephant

Kieran_Burns wrote:

The thing I don't get with wheel building is how do you know which spoke to put in which hole?

Is there like a certain angle they're meant to be at or something?

There's a set order you do them in. If you follow the order, it's easy. For a standard three-cross wheel, you do all the forward facing ones on one side, all the forward-facing ones on the other side, twist the hub then put in the backwards facing ones. The backwards-facing ones cross three forwards facing spokes, over, over then under. Really there's nothing to it.

The only difficult bit is buying the right spokes, but then the bloke from Spa knew the right lengths off the top of his head. Buy the book I linked to, it's very good indeed.