where should i get my wheels built

mudcow007
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there was a thread on here a few weeks back (i cant find it) were someone was buying wheels. they were recommended some old school builders
any ideas who they were?
i need some new hoops!
any ideas who they were?
i need some new hoops!
Keeping it classy since '83
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Previous discussion and link here.
Think KB went for Spa cycles in the end. Haven't heard if he has received them or what he thinks yet....Nobody told me we had a communication problem0 -
Spa Cycles. Next question!Faster than a tent.......0
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UndercoverElephant wrote:Spa cycles?
thats the one!
cheers ears
i wish i could build my own....if i did i think they would turn out like pringles (bent)Keeping it classy since '830 -
very happy with a set I got from wheelroom.co.uk0
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mudcow007 wrote:UndercoverElephant wrote:Spa cycles?
thats the one!
cheers ears
i wish i could build my own....if i did i think they would turn out like pringles (bent)
http://www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php
Buy the book, build the stand. Wheels aren't really that hard once you've done one.0 -
Ahhh just spoken to "Spa" who said that they wouldn't ever build with Mavic rims ever again, but they do highly recommend "Rigida Sputnik" rims as they are indestructible
but i want Mavic as they are black with lots of yellow stickersKeeping it classy since '830 -
walkingbootweather wrote:Previous discussion and link here.
Think KB went for Spa cycles in the end. Haven't heard if he has received them or what he thinks yet....
I did, they haven't (Monday), will let you know
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2012 Felt F65X
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mudcow007 wrote:Ahhh just spoken to "Spa" who said that they wouldn't ever build with Mavic rims ever again, but they do highly recommend "Rigida Sputnik" rims as they are indestructible
but i want Mavic as they are black with lots of yellow stickers
Do a search around the ninterwebs; Mavic rims are made of cheese these days. Rigida rims are pretty good. And cheap. I don't build wheels with anything else. All three of them.0 -
I'm getting the Rigidas for my Tricross - i thought these rims were black anywayChunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
2009 Specialized Tricross Sport
2011 Trek Madone 4.5
2012 Felt F65X
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well.....i ended up buying some from chainreaction cycles (hopefully my card details wont get stolen)
im all excited now woohoo!Keeping it classy since '830 -
36 spoke btw...Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
2009 Specialized Tricross Sport
2011 Trek Madone 4.5
2012 Felt F65X
Proud CX Pervert and quiet roadie. 12 mile commuter0 -
cheers for that but these are for my mtb bike
so i needed a disc rim an a v rim
i think when my current tricross rims die i will get some of them Sputniks they look rock solidKeeping it classy since '830 -
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mudcow007 wrote:well.....i ended up buying some from chainreaction cycles (hopefully my card details wont get stolen)
im all excited now woohoo!
A curious decision.
You ask for recommendations on where you should get your wheels built suggesting you are looking for an old school builder.
You get some reasonable recommendations, none suggesting hand built wheels are anything other that a good thing to buy.
You buy what I assume are factory produced wheels from a mail order specialist.
Its your money and your decision (and I hope you will be very happy with your purchase) but why the apparent change in tack?Nobody told me we had a communication problem0 -
to be honest i was going to say if i buy all the bits n bobs how much would you charge?
i might save that for when i next need some thoughKeeping it classy since '830 -
walkingbootweather wrote:You ask for recommendations on where you should get your wheels built suggesting you are looking for an old school builder.
You get some reasonable recommendations, none suggesting hand built wheels are anything other that a good thing to buy.
You buy what I assume are factory produced wheels from a mail order specialist.
the old school builder wouldn't build using the rims that i wanted so being the brat i am...i found the rims i really wanted. chances are this decision wil/ might bite me in the ass when the rims collapse (i hope not!!)
the wheels are hand built (so the crc website says)Keeping it classy since '830 -
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I could be bribed into lacing them up for you if you want? I build a fair wheel if I do say so myself. :oops:FCN 5 belt driven fixie for city bits
CAADX 105 beastie for bumpy bits
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If you want to find a decent local builder, pop round your various lbs and look for a mechanic who either does, or used to BMX and builds their own wheels.
Speak to the guy who'll be doing the wheels and they'll usually build them better than the guys who've only built road wheels etc.0 -
The thing I don't get with wheel building is how do you know which spoke to put in which hole?
Is there like a certain angle they're meant to be at or something?Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
2009 Specialized Tricross Sport
2011 Trek Madone 4.5
2012 Felt F65X
Proud CX Pervert and quiet roadie. 12 mile commuter0 -
Sorry Mudcow I'm confused. What is it you have bought? It is just rims or made up wheels? The pictures you posted appear to be rims of different widths, designed for slightly different purposes - Were you intending to have different wheels on the same bike or are you getting 2 pairs of wheels?
I'm no expert on wheel building and am just trying to understand your logic. Perhaps there are things I need to consider for my next purchase.Nobody told me we had a communication problem0 -
Kieran_Burns wrote:The thing I don't get with wheel building is how do you know which spoke to put in which hole?
Is there like a certain angle they're meant to be at or something?
It's to do with spoke length, you can build up 3x, 2x, radial and even higher number of crosses. Basically you lace up one set (ie one side of the hub, leading or trailing) then when you lace the other half of the hub you twist the hub round and start lacing basically counting the crosses and as you tighten it all up it sort of sorts itself out.
The real skill here lies in getting the valve in one of the big gaps and lined up to the hub logo! If you're interested, buy a handbuilt locally and ask if you can watch them being laced for a pack of biccies or beer.. (For people we have a dislike of we have higher labour rates to watch, posted on the door: Labour £25 p/h, £35 p/h to watch, £75 p/h to "help")0 -
they are for the same bike an yes they are different rims, one is disc specific an the other has a brake surface (for v's)
the bike is going to be used for chucking up an down hills in deepest darkest Waleshire
i chose them rims as they are suppose to be quite tough.
i always use to use D521 rims but they dont make them anymore
building is a fine art, which with my fists of ham would be pointless to attempt as i know i would "taco" a rim. im told front wheels are easier than rears as with a rear you have to "dish" the wheel to offset for the cassette an stuff......its dark arts to meKeeping it classy since '830 -
ride_whenever wrote:Labour £25 p/h, £35 p/h to watch, £75 p/h to "help")
i was quoted with £45 per wheel in my LBSKeeping it classy since '830 -
Kieran_Burns wrote:The thing I don't get with wheel building is how do you know which spoke to put in which hole?
Is there like a certain angle they're meant to be at or something?
There's a set order you do them in. If you follow the order, it's easy. For a standard three-cross wheel, you do all the forward facing ones on one side, all the forward-facing ones on the other side, twist the hub then put in the backwards facing ones. The backwards-facing ones cross three forwards facing spokes, over, over then under. Really there's nothing to it.
The only difficult bit is buying the right spokes, but then the bloke from Spa knew the right lengths off the top of his head. Buy the book I linked to, it's very good indeed.0