Shimano 105 Shifters
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Flasher wrote:
From that page;
Attention! Only compatible with brake body BR-5700/6700/7900 and front derailleur FD-5700/6700.0 -
Flasher wrote:DesWeller wrote:Flasher wrote:ride_whenever wrote:I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.
Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!
On pro bikes I shouldn't think the cable runs have to last for more than a few hundred miles, so it's not really comparable is it.
Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo must all be in the hidden cable conspiracy!
You may be more correct than you realize. There is tons of stuff out there that serves no real purpose except to look good and get people to buy them. Do handlebars really need to have a "wet look" finish? Do hidden cables serve any other purpose other than "looking good"? And don't give me any "aero" stuff. Does a carbon rear mech cage accomplish anything over an aluminum one? And what about ceramic bearings? Any real
proof that they work better or last longer or require less maintainance than conventional stuff? Do any of the plethora of aftermarket brakes offer anything except a bit of bling, lots of high expence, and shiny colors over their groupset counterparts?0 -
dennisn wrote:Flasher wrote:DesWeller wrote:Flasher wrote:ride_whenever wrote:I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.
Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!
On pro bikes I shouldn't think the cable runs have to last for more than a few hundred miles, so it's not really comparable is it.
Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo must all be in the hidden cable conspiracy!
You may be more correct than you realize. There is tons of stuff out there that serves no real purpose except to look good and get people to buy them. Do handlebars really need to have a "wet look" finish? Do hidden cables serve any other purpose other than "looking good"? And don't give me any "aero" stuff. Does a carbon rear mech cage accomplish anything over an aluminum one? And what about ceramic bearings? Any real
proof that they work better or last longer or require less maintainance than conventional stuff? Do any of the plethora of aftermarket brakes offer anything except a bit of bling, lots of high expence, and shiny colors over their groupset counterparts?
I'm sure you're right, lots of stuff is developed to help part us from our hard earned, but to suggest that all the major manufacturers develop a system knowing that it doesn't work as well as before is crazy!0 -
Flasher wrote:dennisn wrote:Flasher wrote:DesWeller wrote:Flasher wrote:ride_whenever wrote:I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.
Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!
On pro bikes I shouldn't think the cable runs have to last for more than a few hundred miles, so it's not really comparable is it.
Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo must all be in the hidden cable conspiracy!
You may be more correct than you realize. There is tons of stuff out there that serves no real purpose except to look good and get people to buy them. Do handlebars really need to have a "wet look" finish? Do hidden cables serve any other purpose other than "looking good"? And don't give me any "aero" stuff. Does a carbon rear mech cage accomplish anything over an aluminum one? And what about ceramic bearings? Any real
proof that they work better or last longer or require less maintainance than conventional stuff? Do any of the plethora of aftermarket brakes offer anything except a bit of bling, lots of high expence, and shiny colors over their groupset counterparts?
I'm sure you're right, lots of stuff is developed to help part us from our hard earned, but to suggest that all the major manufacturers develop a system knowing that it doesn't work as well as before is crazy!
I agree that they are not intentionally developing bad products but in an effort to keep us buying things they develope "new, improved" products which may or may not be particullary "new" nor "improved".0
