Shimano 105 Shifters

Roscobob

Advice required folks. I'm a total moron when it comes to anything manual so please be nice

I have 105 on my Trek and the gear cables are untidy like this:



I'd like them to run under the bar tape. Do I need to upgrade the shifters or can it be done with my current one. More recent 105 set ups have them running under the tape.

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers

keef66

You have 5600 shifters. They won't allow the cables to be concealed. You need the newer 5700 shifters for that (expensive) or some used Ultegras (cheaper)

Fenred

Roscobob wrote:

I have 105 on my Trek and the gear cables are untidy like this:

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....Sorry to be the one to break this to you...But you have a Speshy, not a Trek :shock: :?

Bobbinogs

Fenred wrote:

Roscobob wrote:

I have 105 on my Trek and the gear cables are untidy like this:

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....Sorry to be the one to break this to you...But you have a Speshy, not a Trek

Roscobob

Thanks Keef. I'll look in to that. Ebay a good bet?

Fenred.....I asked for that

gaddster

If you can hang on till the weekend I will have two 105 5700 shifters for sale, have the internally routed cables you're after. They're as new.

sloppyschleckonds

gaddster wrote:

If you can hang on till the weekend I will have two 105 5700 shifters for sale, have the internally routed cables you're after. They're as new.

Wil they fit a Trek?

dennisn

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

gaddster wrote:

If you can hang on till the weekend I will have two 105 5700 shifters for sale, have the internally routed cables you're after. They're as new.

Wil they fit a Trek?

gaddster

I'm sure they will, nothing can possibly go wrong...

skyd0g

I may be interested too, do you will they fit this model?

Secteur

I have been looking into exactly this - I have a 5600 groupset and wanted to tidy the cables up by upgrading just the shifters to 5700.

Evans cycles say (on two separate occasions) that 5700 shifters are 100% compaatible with 5600 groupset, but I have asked some other esperts and the general consensus is that they are probably only 90% compatible - by that I mean that the tensions are slightly different and this new combination might lead to problems with shifting on the chainring.

I have also heard people say that they have done it with no problems.

I am still looking to hear the authoritative answer before I take the plunge!

noiseboyfeetman

I have been looking into exactly this - I have a 5600 groupset and wanted to tidy the cables up by upgrading just the shifters to 5700.

This won't fix the clicking sound you're experiencing though!

Secteur

noiseboyfeetman wrote:

This won't fix the clicking sound you're experiencing though!

git!

:P :P :P

desweller

The cable tension is driven by the spring in the derailleur. The thing that needs to be the same is the travel, which is the same for old- and new-model 105 as far as I know.

dennisn

If anyone is actually seriously considering switching out simply to make things LOOK better I would advise you that - NO ONE CARES. Save the money, take your girlfriend / wife out ot dinner, feed your family, pay the rent, that kind of thing. Use your current
shifting system until it's broke.

kettrinboy

Dont know if 105 5600 shifters are the same as Ultegra 6600,s but a good thing about the older shifters is the ability to easily adjust gear cable tension on the move as the barrel adjuster is easily accessible,i dont think thats so easy to do on the undertape versions,and looks wise a couple of cables sticking out from the shifters doesnt bother me in the slightest

noiseboyfeetman

If anyone is actually seriously considering switching out simply to make things LOOK better I would advise you that - NO ONE CARES.

I would actually disagree, when originally looking for a new bike I was put off Shimano for this reason and went for Campag instead as it looked nicer and more tidy with the cables hidden away.

Slack

Secteur wrote:

I have been looking into exactly this - I have a 5600 groupset and wanted to tidy the cables up by upgrading just the shifters to 5700.

Evans cycles say (on two separate occasions) that 5700 shifters are 100% compaatible with 5600 groupset, but I have asked some other esperts and the general consensus is that they are probably only 90% compatible - by that I mean that the tensions are slightly different and this new combination might lead to problems with shifting on the chainring.

I have also heard people say that they have done it with no problems.

I am still looking to hear the authoritative answer before I take the plunge!

All the 5600 rear derailleur will do is shift by whatever degree of movement is dictated by the shifter. So there is no reason why the 5700 shifter will not work with 5600 kit.

desweller

noiseboyfeetman wrote:

If anyone is actually seriously considering switching out simply to make things LOOK better I would advise you that - NO ONE CARES.

I would actually disagree, when originally looking for a new bike I was put off Shimano for this reason and went for Campag instead as it looked nicer and more tidy with the cables hidden away.

Shush - Dennis is an old man and the forum curmudgeon. If it doesn't have downtube shifters, is made of steel and slightly rusty then he's not really interested.

Slack

noiseboyfeetman wrote:

If anyone is actually seriously considering switching out simply to make things LOOK better I would advise you that - NO ONE CARES.

I would actually disagree, when originally looking for a new bike I was put off Shimano for this reason and went for Campag instead as it looked nicer and more tidy with the cables hidden away.

Buying a complete new bike is different to just upgrading the shifters. The point is, it is questionnable to spend (waste) hard earned cash on changing perfectly working kit, for other kit just for looks.

Buy tinned food and guns instead

dennisn

noiseboyfeetman wrote:

If anyone is actually seriously considering switching out simply to make things LOOK better I would advise you that - NO ONE CARES.

I would actually disagree, when originally looking for a new bike I was put off Shimano for this reason and went for Campag instead as it looked nicer and more tidy with the cables hidden away.

I was actually trying to say that no one ELSE cares what your bike looks like. Which is really the reason people have the latest and fanciest stuff anyway. The mistaken belief that other people will be impressed with you. It's a bling - showoff thing in most cases.

Fat-Boy-Roubaix

The thing I do not like about the cables on my 105 is that my front lights have to fight there way through the cables, I also think it looks messy

flasher

Aesthetics are always a factor, why not change them if you can afford to.

Fat-Boy-Roubaix

@ £170 I will put up with it!!

flasher

How about @ £131?

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shim ... aid:444126

ride_whenever

I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.

flasher

ride_whenever wrote:

I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.

Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!

desweller

Flasher wrote:

ride_whenever wrote:

I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.

Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!

On pro bikes I shouldn't think the cable runs have to last for more than a few hundred miles, so it's not really comparable is it.

flasher

DesWeller wrote:

Flasher wrote:

ride_whenever wrote:

I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.

Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!

On pro bikes I shouldn't think the cable runs have to last for more than a few hundred miles, so it's not really comparable is it.

Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo must all be in the hidden cable conspiracy!

desweller

Flasher wrote:

DesWeller wrote:

Flasher wrote:

ride_whenever wrote:

I wouldn't swap them because the new ones don't shift as well because of increased cable friction due to the tighter radius bends.

Maybe you should share your knowledge with all the teams in the TdF!

On pro bikes I shouldn't think the cable runs have to last for more than a few hundred miles, so it's not really comparable is it.

Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo must all be in the hidden cable conspiracy!

:roll:

The point I am trying to make is that, maybe, sometimes kit developed for race teams is not always going to be suitable for less fastidiously maintained bicycles.

flasher

DesWeller wrote:

:roll:

The point I am trying to make is that, maybe, sometimes kit developed for race teams is not always going to be suitable for less fastidiously maintained bicycles.

Lol.................yes developed for incremental degradation!