Aleksandr Kolobnev (Katusha) tests positive in Tour

ademort
ademort Posts: 1,924
edited October 2011 in Pro race
Aleksandr Kolobnev (Katusha) has tested positive for drugs during the first week of the Tour it has just been announced. Oh No here we go again. :oops:
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  • ademort
    ademort Posts: 1,924
    :oops: Sorry didn,t see that.
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  • sharky1029
    sharky1029 Posts: 188
    Well thats the fourth member of my fantasy cycling team to have something wrong with them.
    First wiggo adn then zabriski and van den broeck.
  • airwise
    airwise Posts: 248
    edited July 2011
    I saw Katusha training near St Moritz a few weeks ago. This doesn't surprise me.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
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    Ah ben voilà, retour à la normale!
    Says it all really!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Embroiled in an ongoing criminal investigation in Spain, isn't he? One of the dodgy doctors patients
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    So is it a banned substance or not?

    He can continue to compete?
  • andrewjoseph
    andrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    Pokerface wrote:
    So is it a banned substance or not?

    He can continue to compete?

    As far as i can see it is a banned substance, he can continue to race until the results of B sample confirm positive, then he will be sanctioned. if B sample does not confirm, no action.

    rider can comply now and admit to doping or request B sample analysis.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The poh-leese are at the teams hotel.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • samb01
    samb01 Posts: 130
    No surprise: http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16117999#16117999

    Btw, yesterday's stage winner LL Sanchez has also been linked to Jesus Losa.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    He's been booted from race it seems
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    Doesn't Team Katusha have the Clause in the Contract that all its riders agree to pay five-times their annual salary in the event of a positive doping test?

    I remember Steegmans took them to court over it. Not sure if its still in their current riders contracts!

    I hope he Kolobnev has a fair few quid stashed away if it is the case..
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  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    iainf72 wrote:
    He's been booted from race it seems
    Yep, AFP and L'Equipe both say so.
    Inner Ring say Katusha has fired him

    Jean-René Bernaudeau is good value on this. He says it's a "cultural problem" in some teams, points out that Kolobnev is not exactly a medic, and must have taken it because someone told him to.
  • davelakers
    davelakers Posts: 762
    edited July 2011

    I feel unloved............. :(

    I start a thread first and Im ignored.

    All hail Ademort. :roll:
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Doobz wrote:
    Doesn't Team Katusha have the Clause in the Contract that all its riders agree to pay five-times their annual salary in the event of a positive doping test?

    I remember Steegmans took them to court over it. Not sure if its still in their current riders contracts!

    I hope he Kolobnev has a fair few quid stashed away if it is the case..

    They do, but it's utterly unenforceable so is not worth the paper it's written on.

    It's a pathetic attempt by a dirty team to look like they are tough on doping.
  • hstiles
    hstiles Posts: 414
    I've seen Rocky IV so I know all about Russians and doping.
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    andyp wrote:
    Doobz wrote:
    Doesn't Team Katusha have the Clause in the Contract that all its riders agree to pay five-times their annual salary in the event of a positive doping test?

    I remember Steegmans took them to court over it. Not sure if its still in their current riders contracts!

    I hope he Kolobnev has a fair few quid stashed away if it is the case..

    They do, but it's utterly unenforceable so is not worth the paper it's written on.

    It's a pathetic attempt by a dirty team to look like they are tough on doping.

    Very true, a shame really because you think the team would want to really discourage doping for the sponsors sake as well as the sport. But as usual the team will just sack him and say how disappointed they are in him.
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  • GoldenBear
    GoldenBear Posts: 120
    edited July 2011
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  • avoidingmyphd
    avoidingmyphd Posts: 1,154
    rozzer32 wrote:
    Very true, a shame really because you think the team would want to really discourage doping for the sponsors sake as well as the sport. But as usual the team will just sack him and say how disappointed they are in him.

    Hahaha. Why on earth would a mercenary collection of gas trading and transporting companies and banks, all impenetrably tangled with the Russian state, want their vanity project to give out an antidoping message?
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    Sorry I didn't aim it all at Katusha. I just meant all these team doping clauses that riders have in their contacts that the team can't enforce.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I was saying this over dinner this evening - we're due a positive or two.


    Do people care about this one? Can't say I have any reaction to this - just non.

    *shrugs*
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Do people care about this one? Can't say I have any reaction to this - just non.

    *shrugs*

    Same for me.
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  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    http://www.katushateam.com/2011/eng/mai ... news&n=736

    Alexander Kolobnev suspended himself
    Team Katusha rider Alexander Kolobnev, after testing positive for a diuretic at a medical examination during the Tour de France’s first week, decided to suspend himself according to UCI rules, waiting for the B-sample. At the moment, Team management and the rider have no further comment. It has to be noticed that internal rules in Team Katusha say that the rider, if the B-sample also tests positive, he will be fired and will have to pay five times his salary as a fine. The President of the sport group Andrei Tchmil went voluntarily to the police, together with Kolobnev and his room-mate Silin, in order to translate and reinforce the fact that he and the team are not involved to the contested facts.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    He scored a 5 on the suspicion index, same as Wiggins and Contador.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    iainf72 wrote:
    He scored a 5 on the suspicion index, same as Wiggins and Contador.

    You're stirring today!
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    RichN95 wrote:
    Do people care about this one? Can't say I have any reaction to this - just non.

    *shrugs*

    Same for me.

    Me too. David Harmon will be all sombre tones tomorrow though.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    afx237vi wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Do people care about this one? Can't say I have any reaction to this - just non.

    *shrugs*

    Same for me.

    Me too. David Harmon will be all sombre tones tomorrow though.

    His dope chat grates.

    I'd prefer a Ligget and Sherwan style "he doped, it's a shame. Anyway, this château..."
  • jamlala
    jamlala Posts: 284
    afx237vi wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Do people care about this one? Can't say I have any reaction to this - just non.

    *shrugs*

    Same for me.

    Me too. David Harmon will be all sombre tones tomorrow though.

    His dope chat grates.

    I'd prefer a Ligget and Sherwan style "he doped, it's a shame. Anyway, this château..."

    Totally agree here however!!
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    afx237vi wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Do people care about this one? Can't say I have any reaction to this - just non.

    *shrugs*

    Same for me.

    Me too. David Harmon will be all sombre tones tomorrow though.

    His dope chat grates.

    I'd prefer a Ligget and Sherwan style "he doped, it's a shame. Anyway, this château..."

    True
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    He's a reasonably big name rider, not many wins but often present at the pointy end of a race. Hopefully it'll put the spotlight on this most shady of teams.

    Tested positve for a diuretic but I bet his pi55ing himself now.