bike p0rn - cruiser

kieranb
kieranb Posts: 1,674
edited July 2011 in The bottom bracket
very nice, not sure if posted here before

http://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=42340&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

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  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    Man that is an awesome looking bike. I want one!
    My London Road
  • GiantMike
    GiantMike Posts: 3,139
    Oh dear! Wronger than a recumbant!
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Should be electric assist powered though.
  • Monkeypump
    Monkeypump Posts: 1,528
    Looks like a childs toy.
  • Sirius631
    Sirius631 Posts: 991
    That's not porn, just offensive!
    To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.
  • Yossie
    Yossie Posts: 2,600
    As much as I do like a bit of original design, engineering and finishing, and you can't for an instant deny that the guy who built that has heaps of talent and imagination, his attention to detail is fantastic, his fabrication and build skills look brilliant and I must admit that on that evidence I would let him work on my bikes, what is undeniable is that that is an utter pile of shit.

    Utter, utter, utter pile of shit.

    What a waste of hours and hours and hours and hours of a very skilled man's time.

    But that's just my (very) humble opinion. At the end of the day, he's a billion squillion squillion (yes, that's a real number) times better at building stuff than me.

    But then again, I'm probably better better at blowing stuff up, so perhaps we could both work together on that little project he's showing there ......
  • 37monkey
    37monkey Posts: 141
    http://www.project346.com/
  • bill57
    bill57 Posts: 454
    I'd love it if I was 9 years old.
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    Yossie wrote:
    As much as I do like a bit of original design, engineering and finishing, and you can't for an instant deny that the guy who built that has heaps of talent and imagination, his attention to detail is fantastic, his fabrication and build skills look brilliant and I must admit that on that evidence I would let him work on my bikes, what is undeniable is that that is an utter pile of shoot.

    Utter, utter, utter pile of shoot.

    What a waste of hours and hours and hours and hours of a very skilled man's time.

    But that's just my (very) humble opinion. At the end of the day, he's a billion squillion squillion (yes, that's a real number) times better at building stuff than me.

    But then again, I'm probably better better at blowing stuff up, so perhaps we could both work together on that little project he's showing there ......

    Errrmmm...Yeh Ok right.

    Have you actually ever ridden a cruiser??

    These things were not designed for 60 mile sunday morning epics...WTF is the point of your post?!?!?
  • Yossie
    Yossie Posts: 2,600
    Fenred wrote:
    Errrmmm...Yeh Ok right.

    Have you actually ever ridden a cruiser??

    These things were not designed for 60 mile sunday morning epics...WTF is the point of your post?!?!?

    To say that although you can't knock it for the engineering side of things, its a pile of shit.

    Too many people just dimiss this stuff straight off - you have to admire the skill wasted. I mean used.

    What was the point of your post? (note no use of unnecessary abusive language) I thought that my post was simple enough.

    And I must admit that I wouldn't want to ride it 6 yards, as opposed to 60 miles. I have never ridden one and I never want to. I have never donelots of things, and there are manythat I never want to do.
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    So "too many people dismiss this stuff straight off"...Isn't this what you've just done?

    The fact that you have no interest in BC's makes it a "pile of shoot"?!?!

    I agree it is a triumph it terms of 'design'....In terms of Engineering, you or I couldn't possibly comment on unless I/we saw it in the flesh.

    The point of my post was that the OP started a thread for people that might be interested. By my reckoning that means people that might be interested....Not negative, dumb "I wouldn't ride it so it must be shoot" comments. Apols for the bad language on previous post....But if we're nit-picking, perhaps check your grammer prior to hitting submit. :wink:

    If you ever get the opportunity, try a beach cruiser they are great fun!!
  • Yossie
    Yossie Posts: 2,600
    Not really - essentially, in my view, something has to have function as well as form. I say the same about m/bike choppers.

    I haven't dismissed it straight off as I appreciate the design and work that has gone into it.

    If I said "what a pile of shit - end of" then I'd be dismissing his hard work.

    As it is, it fails on every count of my personal criteriafor an object - be it pushie, m/bike, car, coffee machine, pen etc. I'm an engineering kind of guy, not a fashionista.

    Now don't get me started on soft roaders or I'll really start ranting.

    The OP started it as a free comment thread- if he only wanted b/c fans to comment he would have said so.

    I must admit that I'd rather ride my Plug though. Sorry if a difference of opinion makes you so angry.
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    But it does have function....As I mentioned previously it isnt designed for churning out miles, it is a "beach cruiser".

    The fact that it doesn't meet your "personal criteria" doesnt make it a bad or wrong bike Yossie. Different rides for different applications.

    I'm not 'angry' we are all here with the same passion, I just get sick of reading posts from members that have opinions on subjects they dont understand....I've got the hump tonight and you happened to get it, apols if I come across as angry or aggressive.

    Just for the record I've been considering a Plug myself, how do you find it?
  • DIESELDOG
    DIESELDOG Posts: 2,087
    ^^ Plugs are geat if you know how to

    a: Ride one
    b: Use one.

    Love n hugs

    DD
    Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

    www.onemanandhisbike.co.uk
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    ^^Are you being RUDE???????? :wink: :? :lol::lol:
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    Yossie wrote:
    Not really - essentially, in my view, something has to have function as well as form. I say the same about m/bike choppers.

    I haven't dismissed it straight off as I appreciate the design and work that has gone into it.

    If I said "what a pile of shoot - end of" then I'd be dismissing his hard work.

    As it is, it fails on every count of my personal criteriafor an object - be it pushie, m/bike, car, coffee machine, pen etc. I'm an engineering kind of guy, not a fashionista.
    ...
    On what engineering criteria do you find this bike objectionable?
    The only thing I don't like about it is the fork-mounted lights.
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    It's a beach cruiser. If you don't like beach cruisers, than that is your problem, but it doesn't turn it into a pile of shoot just because your not a fan of the type of bike.

    As it stands, he planned to build a beach cruiser. He built a damn fine one as well. It is engineered and built for it's purpose, so how can you knock that? Just because it doesn't hold up to days in the mountains doesn't automatically make it a pile of shoot, unless you really are that narrow minded.
    My London Road
  • Sirius631
    Sirius631 Posts: 991
    MountainMonster wrote:
    It's a beach cruiser. If you don't like beach cruisers, than that is your problem, but it doesn't turn it into a pile of shoot just because your not a fan of the type of bike.

    As it stands, he planned to build a beach cruiser. He built a damn fine one as well. It is engineered and built for it's purpose, so how can you knock that? Just because it doesn't hold up to days in the mountains doesn't automatically make it a pile of shoot, unless you really are that narrow minded.

    It's a play thing, and as such it ticks non of the functional boxes that I would concider essential. This undermines the argument that bikes are not toys. If I need to ride a bike on a beach I sure my hard tail would suffice.

    Even as a play thing it won't tick either the 'thrill' or 'laugh' box.
    To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    this thread is the last time i waste on here. enjoy your bs row about nothing. yawn. the end
    Death or Glory- Just another Story
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428

    It's a play thing, and as such it ticks non of the functional boxes that I would concider essential. This undermines the argument that bikes are not toys. If I need to ride a bike on a beach I sure my hard tail would suffice.

    Even as a play thing it won't tick either the 'thrill' or 'laugh' box.

    Point #1 - You wouldn't ride a cruiser OR a HT 'on' the beach.

    Point #2- You clearly have NO soul. :roll:
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    Fenred wrote:

    It's a play thing, and as such it ticks non of the functional boxes that I would concider essential. This undermines the argument that bikes are not toys. If I need to ride a bike on a beach I sure my hard tail would suffice.

    Even as a play thing it won't tick either the 'thrill' or 'laugh' box.

    Point #1 - You wouldn't ride a cruiser OR a HT 'on' the beach.

    Point #2- You clearly have NO soul. :roll:
    Now if, for some whatever reason, the owner wanted to ride it on the beach, the massive balloon tyres would be quite effective. Can you fit 6" wide tyres on a hardtail?

    The direct ancestor of the mountain bike was a cruiser bike - it was the only type of bike with a long enough wheelbase and tough enough to bomb down a mountain on without snapping. These design features evolved from the cruiser bike's original purpose - as heavy-duty utility bikes - the very opposite of a plaything.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruiser_bicycle

    I suspect most of the posters on BR do consider their bikes to be toys. Many don't have mudguards, chainguards, kickstands or integral lights - practical features that the cruiser does have.
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    snailracer wrote:
    Fenred wrote:

    It's a play thing, and as such it ticks non of the functional boxes that I would concider essential. This undermines the argument that bikes are not toys. If I need to ride a bike on a beach I sure my hard tail would suffice.

    Even as a play thing it won't tick either the 'thrill' or 'laugh' box.

    Point #1 - You wouldn't ride a cruiser OR a HT 'on' the beach.

    Point #2- You clearly have NO soul. :roll:
    Now if, for some whatever reason, the owner wanted to ride it on the beach, the massive balloon tyres would be quite effective. Can you fit 6" wide tyres on a hardtail?

    The direct ancestor of the mountain bike was a cruiser bike - it was the only type of bike with a long enough wheelbase and tough enough to bomb down a mountain on without snapping. These design features evolved from the cruiser bike's original purpose - as heavy-duty utility bikes - the very opposite of a plaything.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruiser_bicycle

    I suspect most of the posters on BR do consider their bikes to be toys. Many don't have mudguards, chainguards, kickstands or integral lights - practical features that the cruiser does have.

    Snailracer. well done on consulting google to orchestrate your response.

    If you ever go on holiday to North America, please take the time to stop and talk to the nearest local you see on a cruiser and ask them about functionality and practicality. The response you will recieve will be "it's all about the vibe...." Have a little think on that one..... :?
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    ^^ Well said.

    Sometimes fun, and smiles, overrides "practicality". It's clear your not one of the people who has any interest in enjoying life, as that would be unpractical.
    My London Road
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    Fenred wrote:

    Snailracer. well done on consulting google to orchestrate your response.

    If you ever go on holiday to North America, please take the time to stop and talk to the nearest local you see on a cruiser and ask them about functionality and practicality. The response you will recieve will be "it's all about the vibe...." Have a little think on that one..... :?

    Actually I lived in the US for 7 years - cruisers are very common there - everyone has one (or more) in their garage where I lived (midWest). The cruiser culture there is as established as heavy, black gaspipe bikes with Sturmey Archer gears here in the UK. On the numerous occasions I have spoken with cruiser riders, the subject of "functionality and practicality" never comes up because it's clear cruisers function just fine for their purpose.

    I ride a commuterised mountain bike to work all week, I look at the slippery-tyred, no-mudguards, sweaty-backpacked road bike riders hunched over their over-geared boneshakers and wonder about the "functionality and practicality" of using such a bike to filter through the rush hour traffic at 8mph. They probably look at me and wonder how I can ride such a heavy, inefficient tank.

    Mountain biking has a "vibe", but the bikes still have to be functional enough to get to the bottom of the mountain. The vibe is always associated with a function - just as with road bikes and their "vibe". If you can't see the function that a cruiser bike has, then look harder.

    Besides, what's wrong with google?
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    Sirius631 wrote:
    That's not porn, just offensive!
    Well it might not be your sort of porn, but it's clearly porn to those with different tastes. Porn is porn.
  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    snailracer wrote:
    Fenred wrote:

    Snailracer. well done on consulting google to orchestrate your response.

    If you ever go on holiday to North America, please take the time to stop and talk to the nearest local you see on a cruiser and ask them about functionality and practicality. The response you will recieve will be "it's all about the vibe...." Have a little think on that one..... :?

    Actually I lived in the US for 7 years - cruisers are very common there - everyone has one (or more) in their garage where I lived (midWest). The cruiser culture there is as established as heavy, black gaspipe bikes with Sturmey Archer gears here in the UK. On the numerous occasions I have spoken with cruiser riders, the subject of "functionality and practicality" never comes up because it's clear cruisers function just fine for their purpose.

    I ride a commuterised mountain bike to work all week, I look at the slippery-tyred, no-mudguards, sweaty-backpacked road bike riders hunched over their over-geared boneshakers and wonder about the "functionality and practicality" of using such a bike to filter through the rush hour traffic at 8mph. They probably look at me and wonder how I can ride such a heavy, inefficient tank.

    Mountain biking has a "vibe", but the bikes still have to be functional enough to get to the bottom of the mountain. The vibe is always associated with a function - just as with road bikes and their "vibe". If you can't see the function that a cruiser bike has, then look harder.

    Besides, what's wrong with google?

    You are either doing your very best Troll impersonation here or you are a VERY confused thinker...I suspect the later.

    For that reason I'm out :roll:
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    Fenred wrote:
    snailracer wrote:
    Fenred wrote:

    Snailracer. well done on consulting google to orchestrate your response.

    If you ever go on holiday to North America, please take the time to stop and talk to the nearest local you see on a cruiser and ask them about functionality and practicality. The response you will recieve will be "it's all about the vibe...." Have a little think on that one..... :?

    Actually I lived in the US for 7 years - cruisers are very common there - everyone has one (or more) in their garage where I lived (midWest). The cruiser culture there is as established as heavy, black gaspipe bikes with Sturmey Archer gears here in the UK. On the numerous occasions I have spoken with cruiser riders, the subject of "functionality and practicality" never comes up because it's clear cruisers function just fine for their purpose.

    I ride a commuterised mountain bike to work all week, I look at the slippery-tyred, no-mudguards, sweaty-backpacked road bike riders hunched over their over-geared boneshakers and wonder about the "functionality and practicality" of using such a bike to filter through the rush hour traffic at 8mph. They probably look at me and wonder how I can ride such a heavy, inefficient tank.

    Mountain biking has a "vibe", but the bikes still have to be functional enough to get to the bottom of the mountain. The vibe is always associated with a function - just as with road bikes and their "vibe". If you can't see the function that a cruiser bike has, then look harder.

    Besides, what's wrong with google?

    You are either doing your very best Troll impersonation here or you are a VERY confused thinker...I suspect the later.

    For that reason I'm out :roll:
    I'm hardly in disagreement with you. I can only assume you haven't bothered reading my posts.
  • MountainMonster
    MountainMonster Posts: 7,423
    snailracer wrote:
    Fenred wrote:
    snailracer wrote:
    Fenred wrote:

    Snailracer. well done on consulting google to orchestrate your response.

    If you ever go on holiday to North America, please take the time to stop and talk to the nearest local you see on a cruiser and ask them about functionality and practicality. The response you will recieve will be "it's all about the vibe...." Have a little think on that one..... :?

    Actually I lived in the US for 7 years - cruisers are very common there - everyone has one (or more) in their garage where I lived (midWest). The cruiser culture there is as established as heavy, black gaspipe bikes with Sturmey Archer gears here in the UK. On the numerous occasions I have spoken with cruiser riders, the subject of "functionality and practicality" never comes up because it's clear cruisers function just fine for their purpose.

    I ride a commuterised mountain bike to work all week, I look at the slippery-tyred, no-mudguards, sweaty-backpacked road bike riders hunched over their over-geared boneshakers and wonder about the "functionality and practicality" of using such a bike to filter through the rush hour traffic at 8mph. They probably look at me and wonder how I can ride such a heavy, inefficient tank.

    Mountain biking has a "vibe", but the bikes still have to be functional enough to get to the bottom of the mountain. The vibe is always associated with a function - just as with road bikes and their "vibe". If you can't see the function that a cruiser bike has, then look harder.

    Besides, what's wrong with google?

    You are either doing your very best Troll impersonation here or you are a VERY confused thinker...I suspect the later.

    For that reason I'm out :roll:
    I'm hardly in disagreement with you. I can only assume you haven't bothered reading my posts.

    To sum up your posts, you have said that cruiser has no function. It is a cruiser, and being built to those standards, it has the function of being a cruiser. Just because you are not a fan of it, does not mean it is shiiiite, or functionless.

    As far as you were saying about the commuters on road bikes, do you know their exact route? Maybe they are not online inside city limits, but it has it's functions somewhere else. Or maybe they find it comfortable. Does that mean they are wrong and doing a wrong thing? Nope, just because you don't agree doesn't make someones opinion on what bike to ride wrong.
    My London Road
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    This is classic - two people arguing, accusations of trolling and yet both in agreement with each other when you read their posts :lol:
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    edited July 2011
    MountainMonster wrote:
    ...
    To sum up your posts, you have said that cruiser has no function. It is a cruiser, and being built to those standards, it has the function of being a cruiser. Just because you are not a fan of it, does not mean it is shiiiite, or functionless...
    Agreed.
    MountainMonster wrote:
    ...
    ...As far as you were saying about the commuters on road bikes, do you know their exact route? Maybe they are not online inside city limits, but it has it's functions somewhere else. Or maybe they find it comfortable. Does that mean they are wrong and doing a wrong thing? Nope, just because you don't agree doesn't make someones opinion on what bike to ride wrong.
    I never said they were wrong, precisely for the reasons you mention and more. I even said this:
    snailracer wrote:
    They probably look at me and wonder how I can ride such a heavy, inefficient tank.
    I'm sure some commuters might think I'm wrong, some would think I'm doing it right, some think I'm striking a compromise with whatever I have to work with.

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