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  • spongtastic
    spongtastic Posts: 2,651
    NozzaC wrote:
    Please, please, please don't get me started on the Maddie thing.

    As has been said many, many times, how much coverage and sympathy do you think there'd be if it had been a Halifax* council tenant who's kid had got snatched from a caravan on a Skeggy holiday park site whilst they were playing bingo? But because it's Mr and Mrs Middle Class, enjoying "a meal with friends" away from their children who they've left in a villa and it's all in Portugal then somehow it's everyone else's fault and not an example of "bad parenting from broken Britain".

    * Could've been anywhere, residents of Halifax don't be offended.

    What's wrong with being middle class exactly? Most of us are.

    As I remember it, the "sympathy" at the time was constant inferences that the family had done the crime, people moaning Mrs McCann didn't look upset enough on TV for their liking, plenty of criticism for them leaving the child in a locked apartment on a holiday camp development and then criticism for the way they spent too much money from the fund on private investigators. Finally we have them being accused of "not letting it lie".

    Do you have an example of a more working-class child snatched like this where the coverage was focussed on broken-Britain or otherwise attracted more criticism of the parenting standards?

    I can't remember the parents of the kids listed here being on being on the TV, in every damn newspaper, writing books, getting Scotland Yard involved. So is it me or did they get a bit more 'Sympathy' than others as they were 'respectable' members of the community.

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  • spongtastic
    spongtastic Posts: 2,651
    oh and as I had a lapse and forgot this was the crudcatcher, before I get my coat and find the road to Hull have this

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    Visit Clacton during the School holidays - it's like a never ending freak show.

    Who are you calling inbred?
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    oh and as I had a lapse and forgot this was the crudcatcher, before I get my coat and find the road to Hull have this

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  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    FocusZing wrote:
    If all the newspapers go to the wall, how will all the northern people (& Welsh) eat their chips?

    We can use your porn mags, as most of you pic's you post are usually smutty so you must have stacks....as long as their not soiled of course....
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Pudseyp wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    If all the newspapers go to the wall, how will all the northern people (& Welsh) eat their chips?

    We can use your porn mags, as most of you pic's you post are usually smutty so you must have stacks....as long as their not soiled of course....

    There is no way, NO WAY! Your going to eat your battered mars bars off a printed pair of pert protrusions.
  • tom_howard
    tom_howard Posts: 789
    FocusZing wrote:
    If all the newspapers go to the wall, how will all the northern people (& Welsh) eat their chips?

    Straight out of our flat caps....
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Tom Howard wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    If all the newspapers go to the wall, how will all the northern people (& Welsh) eat their chips?

    Straight out of our flat caps....

    It's that kind of thinking that once made Britain great.
  • nozzac
    nozzac Posts: 408
    Clank wrote:

    Look, your entire arguement was based on 'the ends justifying the means'. To me, that's a road to moral decay and ultimately, to tyranny. When the 'means' involves breaking laws - there's a danger. Who's morality says which laws can be broken and by whom? Yours? I hope not. Mine? You'd hope not. Who draws the line of acceptable alws to break and when?

    Laws apply to all, or they're meaningless. Breaking laws should not be justified by the outcome because you're basing your system on luck, and at some point, you're ends won't justify the means and someone gets hurt, badly. There's no justification for doing that; saying 'whups - collatoral damage' won't wash. Even if no one is hurt on one occasion, we still need to protect people from bad decisions.

    I'm not here to argue.

    At least you're making a point now.

    I won't argue but I will ask you this: if you worked for the MOD and discovered they were doing secret biological weapons testing on orphans, would you obey the official secrets act you signed up for or do the right thing, break the law and expose them? On whose morality would you base that decision?

    I'd say things are not as black and white as you might think.
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    Tom Howard wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    If all the newspapers go to the wall, how will all the northern people (& Welsh) eat their chips?

    Straight out of our flat caps....




    Nowt wrong with a bit of tweed, would rather wear that than a black jacket and hat covered in milk bottle tops....
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  • Gizmokev
    Gizmokev Posts: 146
    NozzaC wrote:
    At least you're making a point now.

    I won't argue but I will ask you this: if you worked for the MOD and discovered they were doing secret biological weapons testing on orphans, would you obey the official secrets act you signed up for or do the right thing, break the law and expose them? On whose morality would you base that decision?

    I'd say things are not as black and white as you might think.

    You would be surprised at what the military, the MOD Is the government, get up too.
  • Richie63
    Richie63 Posts: 2,132
    I for one won't be missing the NOTW
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  • sheepsteeth
    sheepsteeth Posts: 17,418
    Gizmokev wrote:

    You would be surprised at what the military, the MOD Is the government, get up too.

    no you wouldnt.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Gizmokev wrote:

    You would be surprised at what the military, the MOD Is the government, get up too.

    no you wouldnt.
    I was. I heard the military intentionally go to other countries to kill people! Can you imagine?
  • Gazlar
    Gazlar Posts: 8,083
    Gizmokev wrote:

    You would be surprised at what the military, the MOD Is the government, get up too.

    no you wouldnt.
    I was. I heard the military intentionally go to other countries to kill people! Can you imagine?

    Your getting the Military mixed up with Gary mcCann
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  • Muttly1981
    Muttly1981 Posts: 815
    Gazlar wrote:
    Gizmokev wrote:

    You would be surprised at what the military, the MOD Is the government, get up too.

    no you wouldnt.
    I was. I heard the military intentionally go to other countries to kill people! Can you imagine?

    Your getting the Military mixed up with Gary mcCann

    Or Gerry even :wink:
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    I thought he went abroad to dispose of bodies, and indulge in some human trafficking?
  • Gazlar
    Gazlar Posts: 8,083
    Muttly1981 wrote:
    Your getting the Military mixed up with Gary mcCann

    Or Gerry even :wink:[/quote]

    Sorry Gary McCann is the guy that does the set design in the Pitmen Painters, a theatre play, ever since that fecking poster went up at Wolverhampton Station I keep calling Gerry, Gary.

    My point remains
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