The News of the World

nicklouse

is to close

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14070733


:shock:

welshkev

bloody hell.....well that's certalinly 1 way to take it seriously

lostboysaint

welshkev wrote:

bloody hell.....well that's certalinly 1 way to take it seriously

Or to put it another way

what a great way to close an office, scatter employees to the four corners of the earth, allow the CEO of the parent group to continue in employment and generally ensure that the enquiry doesn't uncover half of what it should!

Kaise

hope this isnt just a way for everyone to forget and then ignore the BskyB sale

welshkev

lostboysaint wrote:

welshkev wrote:

bloody hell.....well that's certalinly 1 way to take it seriously

Or to put it another way

what a great way to close an office, scatter employees to the four corners of the earth, allow the CEO of the parent group to continue in employment and generally ensure that the enquiry doesn't uncover half of what it should!

or that.......

lostboysaint

How many goats do you reckon are ready for scaping?

The Sun gearing up to publish 7 days/week?

This is damage limitation excellence.

nozzac

Somehow I think that is to keep the bskyb takeover alive. I hope it doesn't work.

Obviously the Millie Dowler and war veteren stuff is very distasteful indeed but they are one of the few newspapers doing genuine investigative/undercover reporting left.

Without the old-school hard-nosed press I wonder if we'll just be left with journalism graduates churning press releases and writing opinion pieces.

For some reason I can't get too angry about the other celeb or MP "phone hacking" - AFAIK all they were doing was trying the default PIN on their voicemail. Does that really constitute hacking?

lostboysaint

Do you reckon that the Met officers will be on strike for a pay rise to make up for their loss of earnings?

welshkev

NozzaC wrote:

- AFAIK all they were doing was trying the default PIN on their voicemail. Does that really constitute hacking?

a friend of mine who's a former PI said that's probably the way it was done

Gazlar

Good riddance to it. One of my bugbears of recent times as a tory supporter has been the party's proximity, real or percieved closeness to this newspaper. The sooner it goes the better. I agree this does smack of Murdoch trying to keep the BskyB deal alive by showing "moral steel" whereas the reality is more like washing his hands of bad publicity and turning it into positive.

Pudseyp

Good the winkers...it's about time they shut it down with all the past scandals....it is not news it is invasion of privicy and malicious rumors...I have to give some respect Murdoch though as this is biggest selling Sunday that has been around since Moses was a boy...think the first headline was "Moses ans Jesus In Fishy Incident"

Plus the wankarsedpissfacedtwatfanny doesn't need the money anyway....

nozzac

It was NOTW that went undercover an caught the Pakistani cricket cheats, John Higgins bribes and loads of other stories that were true and deserved to be exposed. Nobody else is doing this stuff like they were.

I hate 90% of the celeb crap they produce but they have a value. I'm sure lots of dishonest MPs and sportsmen etc are happier now they're gone.

Pudseyp

Bollocks.....why should they drag a celebrity down by using kiss and tell girls and the most common word they used which was "allegedly" news papers should contain news...not malicous stories that aren't built on facts.....it was a paper for minions and simpletons...

welshkev

Pudseyp wrote:

Bollocks.....why should they drag a celebrity down by using kiss and tell girls and the most common word they used which was "allegedly" news papers should contain news...not malicous stories that aren't built on facts.....it was a paper for minions and simpletons...

i agree totally, but it's not just the NOTW that's guilty of this....

Pudseyp

NozzaC wrote:

I hate 90% of the celeb crap they produce but they have a value. I'm sure lots of dishonest MPs and sportsmen etc are happier now they're gone.

Also I cannot see what all the commotion was with Ryan Giggs and alike..OK he dipped his nib in someone elses ink pot...so what...it that was a mate or someone at work you wouldn't bat an eye lid..scandal sells...we have more pressing things to worry about like the economy, the aged, medication and proper news rather than who is Ryan having a go on this week....I don't fecking care to be honest it will never effect me so why bastard worry about it...

nozzac

Pudseyp wrote:

NozzaC wrote:

I hate 90% of the celeb crap they produce but they have a value. I'm sure lots of dishonest MPs and sportsmen etc are happier now they're gone.

Also I cannot see what all the commotion was with Ryan Giggs and alike..OK he dipped his nib in someone elses ink pot...so what...it that was a mate or someone at work you wouldn't bat an eye lid..scandal sells...we have more pressing things to worry about like the economy, the aged, medication and proper news rather than who is Ryan having a go on this week....I don't fecking care to be honest it will never effect me so why bastard worry about it...

I already said I didn't like the celebrity crap and didn't mention any of the stories you've referred to.

How about the ones I did mention? Would you rather they didn't catch out those people?

Ryan Jones

Damn, I quite liked the problem page in the News of the world, only bettered by the daily sport's !

cfbcfb

the sun on sunday . co. uk was registered only 2 days ago

Anonymous

NozzaC wrote:

AFAIK all they were doing was trying the default PIN on their voicemail. Does that really constitute hacking?

Yes, yes it does.

Pudseyp

NozzaC wrote:

Pudseyp wrote:

NozzaC wrote:

I hate 90% of the celeb crap they produce but they have a value. I'm sure lots of dishonest MPs and sportsmen etc are happier now they're gone.

Also I cannot see what all the commotion was with Ryan Giggs and alike..OK he dipped his nib in someone elses ink pot...so what...it that was a mate or someone at work you wouldn't bat an eye lid..scandal sells...we have more pressing things to worry about like the economy, the aged, medication and proper news rather than who is Ryan having a go on this week....I don't fecking care to be honest it will never effect me so why bastard worry about it...

I already said I didn't like the celebrity crap and didn't mention any of the stories you've referred to.

How about the ones I did mention? Would you rather they didn't catch out those people?

Anything that effects me like politicians fiddling expenses yes...footballers and celeb's having affairs then no....why should people go out of the way to oust someone in the public eye...if they want to carry on with somebody else then that's there problem...it will not effect me so why pay a pound to read about it...it's sensationalism that's all...if you were flirting with a bird at the office party and someone started branding around you "had gone to a hotel and gave her a right going over" how would you feel about it....no difference to what these tw@ts do everyday...

Anonymous

Why is behaving questionably, and doing illegal, underhanded, dodgy acts, seen as being ok, as long as the people you're doing it TO are behaving questionably, and doing illegal, underhanded, dodgy things?

Who's to say that there's not a crapload of innocents being "investigated" by these assholes, before they find there's no story worth going after?

micksjoiner

the Sunday sun here we cum

nozzac

Pudseyp wrote:

NozzaC wrote:

Pudseyp wrote:

NozzaC wrote:

I hate 90% of the celeb crap they produce but they have a value. I'm sure lots of dishonest MPs and sportsmen etc are happier now they're gone.

Also I cannot see what all the commotion was with Ryan Giggs and alike..OK he dipped his nib in someone elses ink pot...so what...it that was a mate or someone at work you wouldn't bat an eye lid..scandal sells...we have more pressing things to worry about like the economy, the aged, medication and proper news rather than who is Ryan having a go on this week....I don't fecking care to be honest it will never effect me so why bastard worry about it...

I already said I didn't like the celebrity crap and didn't mention any of the stories you've referred to.

How about the ones I did mention? Would you rather they didn't catch out those people?

Anything that effects me like politicians fiddling expenses yes...footballers and celeb's having affairs then no....why should people go out of the way to oust someone in the public eye...if they want to carry on with somebody else then that's there problem...it will not effect me so why pay a pound to read about it...it's sensationalism that's all...if you were flirting with a bird at the office party and someone started branding around you "had gone to a hotel and gave her a right going over" how would you feel about it....no difference to what these tw@ts do everyday...

I wouldn't like it and I have no interest in the sex life of footballers.

My point is that the paper did some useful stuff too and I don't see the other papers doing much undercover or investigative work. Losing that is a shame and will result in more crooks getting away with stuff.

nozzac

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Why is behaving questionably, and doing illegal, underhanded, dodgy acts, seen as being ok, as long as the people you're doing it TO are behaving questionably, and doing illegal, underhanded, dodgy things?

Who's to say that there's not a crapload of innocents being "investigated" by these assholes, before they find there's no story worth going after?

I'm not sure anyone has said it's OK

However I do happen to believe that it can be morally justifiable to break a minor law to catch someone doing something far more serious. The information about MP's expenses was gained illegally but that benefitted the UK.

I'm sure there are lots of innocent people treated very poorly by the press. Unfortunately I think you don't get one without the other. I don't like what they do on the whole but I'm prepared to put up with it so there are people out there looking into things and exposing the people who need exposing.

Clank

Keep living in the bubble, fella!

sheepsteeth

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Why is behaving questionably, and doing illegal, underhanded, dodgy acts, seen as being ok, as long as the people you're doing it TO are behaving questionably, and doing illegal, underhanded, dodgy things?

Who's to say that there's not a crapload of innocents being "investigated" by these assholes, before they find there's no story worth going after?

this is a good point and one with which i agree.

nozzac

Clank wrote:

Keep living in the bubble, fella![/quote

Meaning?

sheepsteeth

NozzaC wrote:

Clank wrote:

Keep living in the bubble, fella!

Meaning?

you live in a bubble and you should continue to do so.

Pudseyp

NozzaC wrote:

My point is that the paper did some useful stuff too and I don't see the other papers doing much undercover or investigative work. Losing that is a shame and will result in more crooks getting away with stuff.

Like what...the only truthful thing they ever printed was the date...

tom_howard

iirc it was the Telegraph that brought the MPs expenses fiasco to light? could be wrong though.

Personally i think all the tabloids should be banned. They are always the first to jump on the bandwagon on its way to the moral high ground, when in the back ground they are just as bad, if not worse than the people they are 'exposing' take the andy gray issue, they (the tabloids, not just notw) were the first to stick up for women, while sticking pics of ladies with their knockers out on the other page.
Also, the fake sheik that gets wheeled out to trap people. They even did it to Sven while he was prepping for a world cup!
The Brand/Ross saga, they were all mortally offended once they stopped lauging at the joke, and they realised they could sell papers off the back of it.

Dont get me started on the 'lowest common denominator' journalism either.

The people who should be 'exposing those who need exposing' are the police, not journos and Max Clifford who can make squillions by doing it (sometimes illegally)

Wish id known they were hacking answerphones though, id have left tons of messages outlining how i was on the grassy knowle with a rifle shooting at convertibles, leaving my contact details, see if any journos rang up.... Parasites the lot of them!

tom_howard

NozzaC wrote:

However I do happen to believe that it can be morally justifiable to break a minor law to catch someone doing something far more serious. The information about MP's expenses was gained illegally but that benefitted the UK.
quote]

remind me which the minor laws are again? Morality and legality are very different things.
If a man stops a murder by kidnapping a kid is that ok?

im no expert on this but i dont think the vast majority of mps (i know a couple have been jailed, rightly so) broke the law on the expenses issue. They played the system yes, but didnt break the law. Dont hate the player, hate the game. (like i say im no expert and will bow to those that know more about it)