Jerseys

mattsaw

My jersey idea is starting to come along a bit. I'm currently talking to suppliers and a designer is working on some initial designs.

I'm looking at getting these madeup in high quality sportswool - merino and polyester mix. 3/4 zip (maybe full?), 3 rear pockets (1 zipped).

Any feedback on the initail design or features?

Initial thoughts are,

- much smaller embroidered logo
- thinner stripes
- possibly blue or white stripes

I should be able to retail between £40 and £50, although I still need to get final firm quotations and finalise import taxes, I'm currently figuring 15-20% import tax + shipping +VAT :shock:

chrishd883

Personaly prefer a full length zip & 3 rear pockets
- plus a zipped pocket? Although I never used this pocket

Anything else?
* Hole in jersey for Ipod?
* Silicon gripper?
Neither is a major concern for me, but others have mentioned these features in other forums, etc.
* View from the rear - Any stripes? Reflective strips?

The jersey looks good - I wouldn't buy it in that blue - just wouldn't go with anything I have. A different blue - maybe. Or just black & white.

Price - check out the Torm jerseys - S/s£45 & L/s £50. Good quality and value by all accounts.

ThatBikeGuy

Looks like a leopard trek blue. Looks nice, subtle design is a good touch, definitely a full length zip.

daviesee

Full length zip.
White sleeves.
Reflective touches.
Zipped pocket to be water/sweat proof & big enough for phone.

Personal colour choice - Italian theme red, white, green, black?

Torm is the obvious competitor.

nwallace

Like it.
I'm against full length Zips though, I got the Prendas System U one with the full length Zip and have no confidence in not breaking it at some point. At least with a 1/2 or 1/4 length zip it's still wearable.

greasedscotsman

Is Velo your "brand" name? Don't think I'd ever buy a jersey with that written on it. Oh and agree with everyone else has said so far, gotta have a full length zip.

mattsaw

Thanks for the feedback guys, and yes other features include,

- silicon grippers on hem and sleeve
- drawstring on the hem
- ipad pocket with hole for headphone
- zipped rear pocket for valuables

So is everbody sold on a full length zip? I did get some feedback from people that they preferred 1/2 and 3/4. Is that not the case? I'm specifying good quality YKK zips, so breakages shouldn't be a problem.

Refelctive strips - I'm not really a fan of these, I think they're a bit gimmicky as they're not really visible unless you're right on top of the rider anyway, and they're obviously no substitute for good lights.

Another alternative design,



And yes, Velo is the brand name. Is it the name you don't like or the size of the logo? I'm not a fan of it at the size it is, I'd rather have something smaller and more subtle.

arthur_scrimshaw

I like it although I think you may have a problem with using Velo as a trademark?

mattsaw

Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:

I like it although I think you may have a problem with using Velo as a trademark?

I need to run some final checks, but in all of the IP and TM searches I have run it's only registered in non-conflcting industries. So I 'should' be okay.

greasedscotsman

Mattsaw wrote:

And yes, Velo is the brand name. Is it the name you don't like or the size of the logo? I'm not a fan of it at the size it is, I'd rather have something smaller and more subtle.

Both! Are you thinking of a small logo like on a Rapha jersey? That would be better I think, but then maybe you don't just want something that's a copy of what they are doing. And I'd prefer a more abstract brand name, Foska is quite good.

MattC59

greasedscotsman wrote:

Mattsaw wrote:

And yes, Velo is the brand name. Is it the name you don't like or the size of the logo? I'm not a fan of it at the size it is, I'd rather have something smaller and more subtle.

Both! Are you thinking of a small logo like on a Rapha jersey? That would be better I think, but then maybe you don't just want something that's a copy of what they are doing. And I'd prefer a more abstract brand name, Foska is quite good.

What about Ciclo ? Cycle in Italian
I just put cycle into google translate and palyed around.

mattsaw

greasedscotsman wrote:

Mattsaw wrote:

And yes, Velo is the brand name. Is it the name you don't like or the size of the logo? I'm not a fan of it at the size it is, I'd rather have something smaller and more subtle.

Both! Are you thinking of a small logo like on a Rapha jersey? That would be better I think, but then maybe you don't just want something that's a copy of what they are doing. And I'd prefer a more abstract brand name, Foska is quite good.

Another alternative was arrivo, any feelings on that one?

greasedscotsman

Mattsaw wrote:

greasedscotsman wrote:

Another alternative was arrivo, any feelings on that one?

Yeah, sounds good to me.

jimmythecuckoo

Is this a BR forumites jersey project?

Cycle Chat have a jersey you know...

Frank the tank

I'm not to keen on "arrivo" but so what.

I like the design of the jersey, raglan sleeves always give plenty of scope for various colour schemes. Both designs appeal to me, but it would be good to see a rear view.

All the best with it.

jimmythecuckoo

Why can't I see the image?

Is it in this this thread ?

mattsaw

jimmythecuckoo wrote:

Why can't I see the image?

Is it in this this thread ?

Yep, the links are here though if they're not showing for you for some reason,

http://i.imgur.com/ybTcs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zX1ZV.jpg

derbygrimpeur

arrivo sounds too much like a bus company for my likings

Prefer the design with the two white stripes and blue shoulders.

Not a fan of a full length zip (can someone who likes them, please explain to me why?). A 1/2 length zip is plenty.

I like the idea of one rear zipped pocket but not sure I would buy a jersey with a specific ipod pocket.

Cleat Eastwood

derbygrimpeur wrote:

arrivo sounds too much like a bus company for my likings

Prefer the design with the two white stripes and blue shoulders.

Not a fan of a full length zip (can someone who likes them, please explain to me why?). A 1/2 length zip is plenty.

I like the idea of one rear zipped pocket but not sure I would buy a jersey with a specific ipod pocket.

Ha ha I had the same thoughts.

I like full length zips cos if its hot I expose more of my man physique and its easier to take off for a bog stop if the pockets are full of gubbins.

Velo is a good name. The minimal look using just those 3 colours looks classy. I'd buy one.

MickTup

Black :roll:

Mark Bom

I like the second design more I think, but I've seen one very similar on another jersey, including the colour....not sure if it was a Shutt VR one?

Name isn't really something I care too much about, I concentrate more on the design of the logo, but why not go for a British name as opposed to a Continental sounding one? Seems to be a bit of a gap in the market?

I appreciate a full zip for ease of getting the jersey off and on, but happy with a half zip.

Good luck to you and ope it works out!

derbygrimpeur

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

I like full length zips cos if its hot I expose more of my man physique and its easier to take off for a bog stop if the pockets are full of gubbins.

That makes sense, although not something that I've had trouble with.

greasedscotsman

derbygrimpeur wrote:

arrivo sounds too much like a bus company for my likings

Actually, I think your right with that. Still wouldn't buy one with Velo written on it!

mattsaw

Okay, other alternatives to Velo

How about

Etape
Prolite
Prologue
Airo?

Any opininions or suggestions?

MattC59

I like Velo

Etape and Airo sound good. You may have an issue with Prolite, they make wheels, but I don't know how far their trademark extends.

mr_goo

Nice design. You may need to think of something other than Velo. There is already a saddle manufacturer called Velo Enterprises that just use 'Velo' as there branding. Might be good idea to come up with a brand name that reflects British Cycling.
Would also like to ask why there is a pre-occupation with Black/White/Blue cycling gear?To my mind cycling has always been a colourful sport. Have you thought of any other colour schemes?

derbygrimpeur

Various people have suggested using a name that reflects British cycling, but nobodies actually suggested a name.

I like the idea of the British link but am struggling to think of a suitable brand name that would sound right.

Even in British cycling we use continental terminology, so I don't really see any problem with a continental brand name.

You could stated the obvious by have "Maillot" on it. Or if "Velo" has possible trademark issues "VeloNoir" or something?

mattsaw

I like the idea of the British link but am struggling to think of a suitable brand name that would sound right.

Even in British cycling we use continental terminology, so I don't really see any problem with a continental brand name.

Yep, those are some great points. I too like the idea of an English company, and I am currently giving some thought to a British name, but as you say, most of the technical cycling terminology we use continental words for anyway.

If anyone does have any great ideas there will be a couple of free jerseys in it for them

Secteur

Hi - I'm a newbie here - could someone explain what the jersey is for?

blu3cat

Mattsaw wrote:

Okay, other alternatives to Velo

How about

Etape
Prolite
Prologue
Airo?

Any opininions or suggestions?

like the jerseys, just as a heads up Prologue the cycle shop sponsor a team and already have a prologue branded jersey.
http://www.prologuebikes.com/productdetails.asp?productid=00355

MattC59

Secteur wrote:

Hi - I'm a newbie here - could someone explain what the jersey is for?

It's a type of cow, produces lovely creamy milk