tubs v clinchers

stronginthesun

i know the difference but what are the advantages of tubs over clinchers ?

rick_chasey

Many people say tubs 'ride' better. You can roll on a tub for longer when you get a puncture.

Finally, wheels that use tubs are often lighter.

The downside is that a puncture is expensive since you need to replace the tub rather than the inner tube.

Kona21

Lighter, cheaper to buy the wheels (not tyres) can pump them up to a higher pressure. The tyres are more aero. All these are only advantages in a racing environment

Billy Dunlop

Rick Chasey wrote:

Many people say tubs 'ride' better. You can roll on a tub for longer when you get a puncture.

Finally, wheels that use tubs are often lighter.

The downside is that a puncture is expensive since you need to replace the tub rather than the inner tube.

No you don't

http://www.tubular-repairs.com/

nferrar

Even for the tubs they can repair it's still not exactly a cheap option and not many people can be bothered to learn it/do it themselves. I'd say the only real advantage these days (outside of a velodrome) are the weight savings.

cougie

Some tubs can't be repaired.

Personally - unless you're a very keen racer with money - I'd go with clinchers.

markos1963

Tubs only take about 30 mins to repair so not a major problem(not at the roadside though!)

They are nice to ride and have advantages for racing but as an everyday tyre you would have to be very keen on them to justify it.

MountainMonster

Ok, so the OP knows the difference between the 2, but I don't. Could someone enlighten me?

snickwell

cadseen wrote:

For ultimate performance in races you need tubs.
If you for example have sent many thousands on all the best equipment for racing.
Why put inferior wheels on it ..

Disagree.

For ultimate performance in races you need the best legs. How much advantage are tubs REALLY going to give you over a stronger rider?

Anonymous

snickwell wrote:

cadseen wrote:

For ultimate performance in races you need tubs.
If you for example have sent many thousands on all the best equipment for racing.
Why put inferior wheels on it ..

Disagree.

For ultimate performance in races you need the best legs. How much advantage are tubs REALLY going to give you over a stronger rider?

Aaah, that old chestnut. What if you are the same strength as the other riders/are as trained as you can be at that particular time?

I'd take any advantage thanks. Although I'd probably draw the line at blood kept in a broken fridge.

cyco2

stronginthesun wrote:

i know the difference but what are the advantages of tubs over clinchers ?

Tubs can be lighter and at a higher pressure (130-150psi) ride better than tyres. I rode clinchers in road races and tubs in tt's. Because in road races I had more possibility of getting a puncher from gritty deposits. In tt's I could chose my line.

You can get a feel for the difference when you ride folders and wired tyres.

Anonymous

cadseen wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

snickwell wrote:

cadseen wrote:

For ultimate performance in races you need tubs.
If you for example have sent many thousands on all the best equipment for racing.
Why put inferior wheels on it ..

Disagree.

For ultimate performance in races you need the best legs. How much advantage are tubs REALLY going to give you over a stronger rider?

Aaah, that old chestnut. What if you are the same strength as the other riders/are as trained as you can be at that particular time?

I'd take any advantage thanks. Although I'd probably draw the line at blood kept in a broken fridge.

does that mean blood stored in a working fridge is ok

Yeah, should be ok but check with your Doctornamedafterasportscarmanufacturer first.

nferrar

cyco2 wrote:

Tubs can be lighter and at a higher pressure (130-150psi) ride better than tyres.

Ride better how? 150psi on the road, unless it's a motor racing circuit is going to give a harsh ride let alone slow you down. 150psi only has a place on a track IMO. I concede that the best tubs give a marginally better ride than the best clinchers but there's a pretty big overlap between the two these days.

nakita222

NapoleonD wrote:

cadseen wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

snickwell wrote:

cadseen wrote:

For ultimate performance in races you need tubs.
If you for example have sent many thousands on all the best equipment for racing.
Why put inferior wheels on it ..

Disagree.

For ultimate performance in races you need the best legs. How much advantage are tubs REALLY going to give you over a stronger rider?

Aaah, that old chestnut. What if you are the same strength as the other riders/are as trained as you can be at that particular time?

I'd take any advantage thanks. Although I'd probably draw the line at blood kept in a broken fridge.

does that mean blood stored in a working fridge is ok

Yeah, should be ok but check with your Doctornamedafterasportscarmanufacturer first.

Ferrari or Lambourghini

thegreatdivide

nakita222 wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

cadseen wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

snickwell wrote:

cadseen wrote:

For ultimate performance in races you need tubs.
If you for example have sent many thousands on all the best equipment for racing.
Why put inferior wheels on it ..

Disagree.

For ultimate performance in races you need the best legs. How much advantage are tubs REALLY going to give you over a stronger rider?

Aaah, that old chestnut. What if you are the same strength as the other riders/are as trained as you can be at that particular time?

I'd take any advantage thanks. Although I'd probably draw the line at blood kept in a broken fridge.

does that mean blood stored in a working fridge is ok

Yeah, should be ok but check with your Doctornamedafterasportscarmanufacturer first.

Ferrari or Lambourghini

Alfie Romeo

Monty Dog

I prefer to ride tubs for racing, even more so for road racing where road conditions means that you have to deal with potholes and debris in the middle of the bunch with little room for manoeuvre. I could recount countless times where people riding clinchers have flatted due to potholes / pinch punctures where I've smacked them hard with tubs and carried on regardless. For carbon wheels this is more critical - hit the edge of a carbon clincher rim hard and it'll break whereas there's no edge on a carbon rim to break. Likewise, you can roll on a flatted tub whereas a flat clincher gives very poor control. In terms of rolling resistance, tubeless is the best but the biggest factor is the smoothness of road surface.