Capitalism isn't working.
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I fancy a cup of tea0
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When you suggest that capitalism isn't working or at least open it up for discussion, do you mean it's not working for everyone, or just a certain demographic?
If the latter, who is that?
Also, if it's not working just for a certain group/demographic/culture/class or whatever, then by default it's working for the people not in that group, yes?
Or is there a 3rd option, working/not working/not proven?
Just interested to understand what the definition of "not working" is.
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Jez mon wrote:markos1963 wrote:Jez mon wrote:Anarchism? Wouldn't work
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A full.balanced and intelligent explanation that.
Just why not? Surely if we claim to be a higher species we should be able to organise ourselves without the need to put self serving, control freaks in charge of us. Even mother natural manages to organise itself into some sort of self order.
See highlighted bold. We claim to be, we aren't. We're just monkeys who have evolved to have develop all kinds of fancy things.
TBH I just assumed those on this forum were intelligent enough to work out why for themselves...
Damn those opposable thumbs0 -
I'm struggling to see a clear distinction between pure capitalism and anarchy.Scrumple wrote:Anarchy doesn't work -
Look at nature: the fittest survive.
In the purest form of capitalism those who can't afford to eat or buy medical assistance will die. Any dilution of that is move to a less capitalist and more humane society. We can argue about how far along that line we go, but pure capitalism isn't a form of government, rather a capitulation to a system of giving value to things that lies somewhere between being uncontrollable and being controlled by those who have the most money for their own benefit.0 -
Coffe for me please.0
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or even Coffee (DOH)0
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I need some whisky
God, this is getting dull.0 -
"Anarchism? Wouldn't work"
Well it wouldn't be bleedin' anarchism if it worked, now would it? That's the whole point.. Gah!0 -
Nice theory, till you become ill and need a hospital. Then you discover that hospitals cost money to build and run, so you need a body to collect enough from everyone to pay for it (taxation) and then to distribute it in a manner that ensures it works. When a gang of villians move into your neighbourhood and start taking everyone's property from them and beating people up and raping their wives and daughter you need a group of people to stop it (a police force) which has to be paid for, organised and regulated by someone.markos1963 wrote:Jez mon wrote:Anarchism? Wouldn't work
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A full.balanced and intelligent explanation that.
Just why not? Surely if we claim to be a higher species we should be able to organise ourselves without the need to put self serving, control freaks in charge of us. Even mother natural manages to organise itself into some sort of self order.
I could go on, but I think most people can see where I'm coming from...0 -
Smokin Joe wrote:
Nice theory, till you become ill and need a hospital. Then you discover that hospitals cost money to build and run, so you need a body to collect enough from everyone to pay for it (taxation) and then to distribute it in a manner that ensures it works. When a gang of villians move into your neighbourhood and start taking everyone's property from them and beating people up and raping their wives and daughter you need a group of people to stop it (a police force) which has to be paid for, organised and regulated by someone.markos1963 wrote:Jez mon wrote:Anarchism? Wouldn't work
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A full.balanced and intelligent explanation that.
Just why not? Surely if we claim to be a higher species we should be able to organise ourselves without the need to put self serving, control freaks in charge of us. Even mother natural manages to organise itself into some sort of self order.
I could go on, but I think most people can see where I'm coming from...
Im surprised anyone felt that the post to which you replied deserved a well-thought out response.0 -
What anarchy needs is strong leadership.0
