Giro Stage 14 ***Spoiler***

blazing_saddles
blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
edited May 2011 in Pro race
Rai are now live with 170 kms to go if anyone is interested:
http://www.raisport.rai.it/dl/raisport/ ... refresh_ce
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  • fidbod
    fidbod Posts: 317
    Jackpot - and it gets through the corporate firewalls - cheers
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Looks like Brambilla, Rabottini and Tankink making up just a 3 man break... Which seems a little strange to me - big stage, saturday afternoon, early video for RAI but the teams late a tiny break go...
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,600
    By the sound of the bit i heard on eurosport the dodgy descent has been taken out...

    as stated on the thread devoted to the matter
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    The Italians are absolutely steaming over Crostis. A political sop to certain DSs and a "different" attacking opportunity for the likes of Nibali.
    Did Harmon just come out of the closet and call Armstrong a fraud?.........well, subject to confirmation. :shock:
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,653
    gsk82 wrote:
    By the sound of the bit i heard on eurosport the dodgy descent has been taken out...

    as stated on the thread devoted to the matter

    It has. Unsurprisingly, the ascent as well.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    As expected, the polemica has exploded in Italy this morning, with Giro race director Angelo Zomegnan furious at the decision to cut the Crostis from the course. He blamed the decision on the power struggle between team managers and the UCI, and was very vocal in his criticism of both parties in this audio interview with Gazzetta dello Sport.

    In particular, he pointed the finger at “some directeur sportifs, who are generally used to driving in air-conditioned cars with the television switched on.”


    Returning to the Crostis polemica, Zomegnan also pointed out that the team managers had used none of the three opportunities they had to voice their concerns about the dangerous descent before the start of the Giro - at the Giro presentation on October 23, the first team meeting in Milan on March 17, and the pre-race briefing in Turin on May 5.

    A strongly-worded piece in this morning's Gazzetta dello Sport says names Bjarne Riis, Johan Bruyneel, Roberto Amadio and Luc Eisenga as the chief representatives of the managers, while Patrick Lefevere also weighed in by telephone from Belgium.

    "This is an affront to the people of the Crostis," Gazzetta says, before sounding a defiant note: "the Giro is wounded, but it goes on with pride."

    -Cnews
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Noe abandon
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    38km/h average first 2hrs
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    36x32 for Contador
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Noe abandon

    That's sad- I was hoping he'd be the oldest man ever-in-the-history-of-the-world to finish a GT.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    ukm_14.jpg
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  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Noe abandon

    Chicchi too, although I'm more surprised he was still there...
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Hacked off about the crostis... and agree with the organisers. Is it the case now that the money in cycling is resulting in teams attempting to remove as much uncertainty as possible?

    FF, how do you feel about Riis being named, denying you the chance to see Contador on such a climb? Still at least he's nailed on to join Simoni on the Zoncolan honour roll.

    Also, why do other Gc teams and riders never try anything before the last climb anymore? Am I imagining how GTs used to be or are they waiting for the Cas?
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Wow! I'm lying here watching the Giro whilst my mrs and 7yo massage my feet :)

    fbd859f3.jpg

    Zonked out on painkillers too. Bliss!
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Bike change for Bert. Again. He'll be zooming up the Zonc...
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    hee hee, go Sean!!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • peterst6906
    peterst6906 Posts: 530
    afx237vi wrote:
    Bike change for Bert. Again. He'll be zooming up the Zonc...

    Funny comment from Sean Kelly about the change in bike, to get a motor with a new battery.. :D
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Loved Kelly's comment.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Every time they go up the Zoncolan it reminds of the day I had off school in 2003.

    One of Pantani's last ever good days, that was. Duffers was on the commentary too
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Hacked off about the crostis... and agree with the organisers. Is it the case now that the money in cycling is resulting in teams attempting to remove as much uncertainty as possible?

    FF, how do you feel about Riis being named, denying you the chance to see Contador on such a climb? Still at least he's nailed on to join Simoni on the Zoncolan honour roll.

    Also, why do other Gc teams and riders never try anything before the last climb anymore? Am I imagining how GTs used to be or are they waiting for the Cas?

    I respect the decision of people who do this for a living and those who have done it for decades. If they deem something unsafe or unacceptable to race on for other reasons then so be it. Who am I to say what they should or shouldn't ride.

    Hmm, I agree about your last point - was just thinking that I should probably do something constructive and come back at Zoncolans base as Im not sure I want to see them soft pedal until then. Its like ride, ride, ride, race for a bit, finish. I understand they cant go from the gun, but 50km out or so I would hope for some action if possible. Maybe the level is just so high generally that it is too difficult to get a gap until the serious difficulties, so understandably they wait.
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  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Wow! I'm lying here watching the Giro whilst my mrs and 7yo massage my feet :)

    fbd859f3.jpg

    Zonked out on painkillers too. Bliss!
    If they spot you have put the telly on, you'll be in trouble.

    "Zonked out on 'painkillers'"...don't tell me, you have a book coming out soon and this is a teaser.
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Wow! I'm lying here watching the Giro whilst my mrs and 7yo massage my feet :)

    fbd859f3.jpg

    Zonked out on painkillers too. Bliss!

    What big speakers you have.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    The book they refer too, looks like it would be done well:

    http://www.rapha.cc/maglia-rosa?locale=UK
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    They have to make up for other shortcomings...
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    The book they refer too, looks like it would be done well:

    http://www.rapha.cc/maglia-rosa?locale=UK

    I don't really get Rouleur books, they're all a bit "Rapha" and I'm not sure I'm quite fancy enough to be "Rapha"
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Never been a fan of Rapha. The Rouleur magazines are decent.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Goodness, they removed Tualis as well....

    Like Kelly says, an easy day.
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Still, they know what they're doing eh FF? :wink
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    The book they refer too, looks like it would be done well:

    http://www.rapha.cc/maglia-rosa?locale=UK

    I don't really get Rouleur books, they're all a bit "Rapha" and I'm not sure I'm quite fancy enough to be "Rapha"

    I'm part way through Maglia Rosa, enjoying it so far.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Btw, last year Nibali last 3.07 on Basso on Zoncolan.

    1 BASSO Ivan ITA LIQ 6:21:58
    2 EVANS Cadel AUS BMC 6:23:17 1:19
    3 SCARPONI Michele ITA AND 6:23:28 1:30
    4 CUNEGO Damiano ITA LAM 6:23:56 1:58
    5 VINOKOUROV Alexandre KAZ AST 6:24:24 2:26
    6 SASTRE CANDIL Carlos ESP CTT 6:24:42 2:44
    7 NIBALI Vincenzo ITA LIQ 6:25:05 3:07
    8 PINOTTI Marco ITA THR 6:25:18 3:20
    9 MARTIN Daniel IRL GRM 6:25:29 3:31
    10 GADRET John FRA ALM 6:25:44 3:46
    11 ARROYO DURAN David ESP GCE 6:25:48 3:50
    12 DUPONT Hubert FRA ALM 6:26:02 4:04
    13 MOLLEMA Bauke NED RAB 6:26:02 4:04
    14 CATALDO Dario ITA QST 6:26:22 4:24
    15 WEGELIUS Charles GBR OLO 6:26:24 4:26
    16 MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel ESP OLO 6:27:17 5:19
    17 KRUIJSWIJK Steven NED RAB 6:27:25 5:27
    18 PORTE Richie AUS SAX 6:27:44 5:46
    19 SORENSEN Chris DEN SAX 6:27:48 5:50
    20 ARDILA CANO Mauricio Alberto COL RAB 6:27:51 5:53
    21 EFIMKIN Alexander RUS ALM 6:27:59 6:01
    22 TROFIMOV Yury RUS BTL 6:28:09 6:11
    23 KARPETS Vladimir RUS KAT 6:28:12 6:14
    24 SAMOILAU Branislau BLR QST 6:28:41 6:43
    25 CIONI Dario David ITA SKY 6:28:43 6:45
    26 GERDEMANN Linus GER MRM 6:29:08 7:10
    27 TURPIN Ludovic FRA ALM 6:29:20 7:22 2"
    28 RODRIGUEZ Jackson VEN AND 6:30:00 8:02
    29 JEANNESSON Arnold FRA GCE 6:30:00 8:02
    30 PINEAU Jerome FRA QST 6:30:11 8:13 6"
    31 SIMONI Gilberto ITA LAM 6:30:34 8:36
    32 SERPA PEREZ Jose Rodolfo COL AND 6:30:56 8:58
    33 WYSS Marcel SUI CTT 6:31:02 9:04
    34 SIJMENS Nico BEL COF 6:31:02 9:04
    35 MIHOLJEVIC Vladimir CRO ASA 6:31:26 9:28
    36 KISERLOVSKI Robert CRO LIQ 6:31:26 9:28
    37 GARZELLI Stefano ITA ASA 6:31:28 9:30
    38 DE GREEF Francis BEL OLO 6:31:37 9:39
    39 PETROV Evgeni RUS KAT 6:31:57 9:59
    40 URAN URAN Rigoberto COL GCE 6:32:37 10:39
    41 FAILLI Francesco ITA ASA 6:32:39 10:41
    42 LLOYD Matthew AUS OLO 6:33:19 11:21
    43 JUFRE POU Josep ESP AST 6:33:19 11:21
    44 SZMYD Sylvester POL LIQ 6:33:57 11:59
    45 VOECKLER Thomas FRA BTL 6:34:41 12:43
    46 ZANDIO ECHAIDE Xabier ESP GCE 6:35:18 13:20
    47 MAYOZ ECHEVERRIA Iban ESP FOT 6:35:34 13:36
    48 WEENING Pieter NED RAB 6:35:45 13:47
    49 OCHOA Carlos Jose VEN AND 6:36:18 14:20
    50 RIGHI Daniele ITA LAM 6:36:48 14:50
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