2009 Marin Rock Springs quad 140 UPDATED again 27-6-11

ellsbells1973
ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
edited June 2011 in Your mountain bikes
Marin rocks springs 2009
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updated once again, after bowing to to experience i have now ditched the bolt through rear end and managed to get the appropriate part to refit my maxle and after a dirty ride round gisburn all is well, i have also fitted some new hope tech x2 levers and calipers which are a big improvement over the juicy 3's
so here is the full spec list
pike u-turn coils with 20mm maxle
saint r/h shifter and rear mech fitted with kcnc alloy red jockey wheels
deore crank arms with renthal 32t ring and red kcnc bolts
superstar red bottom bracket
mrp guide
race face red atlas bars
race race respond stem
superstar grips
superstar gto headset and spacers
hope eternity seatost
charge spoon saddle
superstar jewel seat clamp
wtb rims with formula 20mm and 12mm hubs
maxxis high rollers
superstar ignite pedals with red pins

planning on getting some pimp wheels off superstar in the not to distant future and hopefully a revelation fork if i am not divorced before hand :lol:
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ellsbells1973 wrote:
    My new toy for the weekend :D
    They're great fun, but it's a shame you only have it for the weekend :lol:
  • mrfmilo
    mrfmilo Posts: 2,250
    Very nice :D why the small chainring?
    Marin
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    mrfmilo wrote:
    Very nice :D why the small chainring?
    only keeping the 32t till i get myself a bit fitter, i know i will spin out on the downs but i aint a fan of climbing
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  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    ellsbells1973 wrote:
    My new toy for the weekend :D
    They're great fun, but it's a shame you only have it for the weekend :lol:
    :D gotta keep the missus happy but i only work 10mins away from rivington, its surprising how much unpaid overtime i have been doing this week (well thats what she thinks)
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Hang on a minute. What kind of rear dropout is that? It looks like a QR, but the actual dropout doesn't appear to have a slot to get the wheel in.
    Is is some curious maxle type thing? (If it is, I'll be slightly annoyed, as I was looking to replace my maxle dropouts with something more secure for a while :lol: )
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    Hang on a minute. What kind of rear dropout is that? It looks like a QR, but the actual dropout doesn't appear to have a slot to get the wheel in.
    Is is some curious maxle type thing? (If it is, I'll be slightly annoyed, as I was looking to replace my maxle dropouts with something more secure for a while :lol: )
    yeh its a 12x135mm maxle, never had a maxle before on the rear so dont know what they are like, but it appears to be a 9mm qr going through a 12mm bolt through see pics below
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Well that's peculiar. Mine's a maxle too, but doesn't look like that :?
    (mine is also my first encounter with a rear maxle)
    Is one of them a maxle light or semething? I honestly don't know.
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    this is what mine looks like, apparentley the small end nut you see on the cassette side has been replaced by what is normally found on 9mm qr's,
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Ah, it's just the nut that's different then. I see!
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    Just updated a few more bits with some new pics :D
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  • bonezy
    bonezy Posts: 129
    Very good looking, distinctive frame, finished off well. Top job
    Whyte901
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    bonezy wrote:
    Very good looking, distinctive frame, finished off well. Top job
    cheers, still wondering if anodised red rims will be overkill though or go with white rims :?
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  • senoj
    senoj Posts: 213
    I had a tough job getting my maxle out the other day to change the tyre.
    I had to bang the thing out.
    made sure i greased it when it went back in though.
    Nice BTW
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    senoj wrote:
    I had a tough job getting my maxle out the other day to change the tyre.
    I had to bang the thing out.
    made sure i greased it when it went back in though.
    Nice BTW
    they are a bit of a pain rear maxles, and my original one had a part missing and look scruffy with the bodgit qr bolt i was using so thought this superstar bolt was a good replacement and its red :lol:
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ellsbells1973, any chance of a link to the thru-axle you used?
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    ellsbells1973, any chance of a link to the thru-axle you used?
    there you go pal, think it looks a lot nicer than the maxle i had
    http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=405
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  • senoj
    senoj Posts: 213
    Would that maxle fit a wolfridge 6.9?
    I mangled to edge of the maxle when I pulled it out.
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    senoj wrote:
    Would that maxle fit a wolfridge 6.9?
    I mangled to edge of the maxle when I pulled it out.
    should do if its 12x135mm maxle dropout, if you require a 12x142 you may need to look elsewhere, this is a complete replacement with a hollow bolt and doing away wth the lever, using a nut instead
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ellsbells1973 wrote:
    senoj wrote:
    Would that maxle fit a wolfridge 6.9?
    I mangled to edge of the maxle when I pulled it out.
    should do if its 12x135mm maxle dropout, if you require a 12x142 you may need to look elsewhere, this is a complete replacement with a hollow bolt and doing away wth the lever, using a nut instead
    Erm, that's not a maxle fit, in their own words...
    NOTE- Does not replace maxle type axles
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    ellsbells1973 wrote:
    senoj wrote:
    Would that maxle fit a wolfridge 6.9?
    I mangled to edge of the maxle when I pulled it out.
    should do if its 12x135mm maxle dropout, if you require a 12x142 you may need to look elsewhere, this is a complete replacement with a hollow bolt and doing away wth the lever, using a nut instead
    Erm, that's not a maxle fit, in their own words...
    NOTE- Does not replace maxle type axles
    It works for me so far, not entirely sure what they mean by that, as it goes straight through the drop outs which you tighten with an Allen key then add the nut to secure it
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    If it goes straight through the dropout, it means it's too small. It will be resting on the drive side thread, ruining it, and will be a loose fit in the non drive side, moving around and wearing itself, and the dropout away, ruining it.
    Have a word with Nicklouse, he has more specific details, including the dimensions, which show why it won't work.
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    If it goes straight through the dropout, it means it's too small. It will be resting on the drive side thread, ruining it, and will be a loose fit in the non drive side, moving around and wearing itself, and the dropout away, ruining it.
    Have a word with Nicklouse, he has more specific details, including the dimensions, which show why it won't work.
    I think superstars measurements are wrong on their site, I will take a pic 2nite and show you how it fits, there is no play in the axle at all the bolt could work on its own I think without the nut securing it as its that tight,
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Unless the axle threads into the drive side dropout, it is the wrong size, and will ruin the dropout.
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    Unless the axle threads into the drive side dropout, it is the wrong size, and will ruin the dropout.
    Its the same diameter as the maxle its replaced
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    No it isnt. The maxle threads into the dropout, which means it will be a larger diameter. The threads are cut into it. If this axle is fitting through, it means its only as big, as the minimum diameter of the thread that is cut into the maxle.
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    ellsbells1973 wrote:
    senoj wrote:
    Would that maxle fit a wolfridge 6.9?
    I mangled to edge of the maxle when I pulled it out.
    should do if its 12x135mm maxle dropout, if you require a 12x142 you may need to look elsewhere, this is a complete replacement with a hollow bolt and doing away wth the lever, using a nut instead
    Erm, that's not a maxle fit, in their own words...
    NOTE- Does not replace maxle type axles
    i have added some pics below showing the axle with no wheel, in various states of fitting, you can see the bolt fits tight to the axle so there is no play and the only bolt threads that show when fitted is on the drive side, which is needed to fit the nut to secure it even more
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ellsbells1973, I can see in your very first picture that there is a gap, that is not a flush fitting axle. Maxle non drive side dropouts are, by design, larger than 12.0mm. You are trying to stick a 12mm axle in there, it's not going to play nice.
    There's a reason Superstar say it isn't for Maxles, and there's a reason that 12mm thru-axle dropouts are different.
  • mr mangos
    mr mangos Posts: 174
    Superstar mean it doesn't replace a 20mm front Maxle. It's a perfect fit for a rear maxle which is 12mm along its whole width. Not sure why you think the non drive-side dropout is larger? Ellsbells first pic shows the axle sitting proud because it's not screwed in, if I'm not mistaken.

    Check out SRAM's own specs.

    Axle: http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/RearMaxle_US4-310507-000_B.pdf

    Dropout: http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/RearMaxleFrame_ES4-310498-000_B.pdf
  • ellsbells1973
    ellsbells1973 Posts: 537
    mr mangos wrote:
    Superstar mean it doesn't replace a 20mm front Maxle. It's a perfect fit for a rear maxle which is 12mm along its whole width. Not sure why you think the non drive-side dropout is larger? Ellsbells first pic shows the axle sitting proud because it's not screwed in, if I'm not mistaken.

    Check out SRAM's own specs.

    Axle: http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/RearMaxle_US4-310507-000_B.pdf

    Dropout: http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/RearMaxleFrame_ES4-310498-000_B.pdf
    Yes 1st 2 pics aren't screwed in
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  • warpcow
    warpcow Posts: 1,448
    ellsbells1973 wrote:
    Yes 1st 2 pics aren't screwed in

    I think Yeehaa knows that. There is more than one gap in that pic.
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