Trail etiquette?

arthur_scrimshaw

snotty badger wrote:

Sounds like the OP lost a game of chicken. Man Up next time- maybe even scream a little?

Screaming is manning up? must remember that next time. Thanks for the tip

blablablacksheep

In my opinion the person climbing should give way to the person coming downhill.

not sure about that tbh

There are rules for all paths and towpaths which state that you should cycle on the left and overtake on the right, not many people do this sadly, many ride on the right :roll:

Given this, the rules of the road ie car mean you should ALLWAYS give way to the person coming up the hill as they have harder time to stop and position car, hill start no thanks on a 1/3 :shock:

So take all this into account if you coming downhill id give way to those coming up as it harder for them to move over and stop than you, unless you cant control your bike that is?

masterdooh

Must agree with most people on here.

If your coming down you should give way. I also think that if you both have time to see each other most normal people will move over to make room if possible.

oodboo

Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:

snotty badger wrote:

Sounds like the OP lost a game of chicken. Man Up next time- maybe even scream a little?

Screaming is manning up? must remember that next time. Thanks for the tip

Just make sure it's more war cry than girly scream.

pilsburypie

screaming? perhaps just a polite ding on your bell.

Thewaylander

Sod that,

if your coming down and your stopped it kinda spoils ya run, while climbing i could not give a monkies if i'm stopped this in my opinion for bike trails, if it said little old lady and so on I'd give the other users the way.

cooldad

Thewaylander wrote:

Sod that,

if your coming down and your stopped it kinda spoils ya run, while climbing i could not give a monkies if i'm stopped this in my opinion for bike trails, if it said little old lady and so on I'd give the other users the way.

Except if you could read he was talking about a lane, not a trail. In other words a public road.
Do you drive an Audi?

Eranu

I think everyone is missing the key point here. Did Arthur stop for a pint at the pub and was it any good?

cooldad

Eranu wrote:

I think everyone is missing the key point here. Did Arthur stop for a pint at the pub and was it any good?

The voice of reason.

arthur_scrimshaw

Eranu wrote:

I think everyone is missing the key point here. Did Arthur stop for a pint at the pub and was it any good?

yes,it was nice but not cheap. Unfortunately we were too late for food. Even so it was a bit deserted, we were the last two there and the staff were putting down the umbrellas all around us. We headed back through Stoughton past the Hare and Hounds which was still packed.

bartimaeus

blablablacksheep wrote:

There are rules for all paths and towpaths which state that you should cycle on the left and overtake on the right, not many people do this sadly, many ride on the right :roll:

While this may be true on towpaths, I always climb on the smoothest line (naturally) as long as I can see ahead. If I see someone coming down I move to the left. However when approaching corners I always switch to the inside - so anyone descending at speed appearing suddenly and out of control can steer wide of me.

When I'm descending and meet someone coming up I always slow right down to pass - a fair few of the people I meet coming up have their heads down, are being bounced about by the uneven trail, or a just too knackered to be thinking straight

bartimaeus

Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:

Eranu wrote:

I think everyone is missing the key point here. Did Arthur stop for a pint at the pub and was it any good?

yes,it was nice but not cheap. Unfortunately we were too late for food. Even so it was a bit deserted, we were the last two there and the staff were putting down the umbrellas all around us. We headed back through Stoughton past the Hare and Hounds which was still packed.

What's your bike then, Arthur? I'm often in that area - particularly now the climb up the hill from Stoughton past the memorial is a featrure of most of my KV rides. If I see you I'll buy you a pint. Still haven't met up with Eranu yet... must fix that!

Eranu

I used to love that Pub in my youth, they used to do a great game pie and a good pint of bishops tipple.

Will be a while before we meet Bartimaeus, stacked the bike 3 weeks ago on the 'cough' singletrack from the top of harting down. Was going too fast on the new bike, ran out of skill and landed all wrong on my ankle. Going to be a few more weeks yet before I am riding anything 'technical' as it's still not quite right. I've been riding but only stuff like Stanstead/Lady Holt etc as I can't stay out of the saddle for long without the ankle complaining.

Mental Mickey

We are low on the totem pole apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPRwOGxSKU

Thewaylander

cooldad wrote:

Thewaylander wrote:

Sod that,

if your coming down and your stopped it kinda spoils ya run, while climbing i could not give a monkies if i'm stopped this in my opinion for bike trails, if it said little old lady and so on I'd give the other users the way.

Except if you could read he was talking about a lane, not a trail. In other words a public road.
Do you drive an Audi?

Why do yo u own one and a BMW too?

And the title states Trail the man can't make up his mind. and anything else other than a trail here from a bike point of veiw is relatively mute as there will probably be enough space to pass comforbly

bartimaeus

I believe it was this track - it gets a bit rougher further up, but basically it's an unmetalled lane.

Thewaylander

Would say pointless question really looking at the width,

I mean who is gonna be hammering that either way? and it's plenty wide

Eranu

I mean who is gonna be hammering that either way?

Thats as good as it gets here in the south

Thewaylander

time to move.

Atz

Eranu wrote:

I mean who is gonna be hammering that either way?

Thats as good as it gets here in the south

Well that's not true. Your mistake was heading along the coast rather than inland.

Eranu

Well that's not true. Your mistake was heading along the coast rather than inland.

I was jesting.

nickel

Mental Mickey wrote:

We are low on the totem pole apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPRwOGxSKU

Also apparently when descending you might going anywhere from 10 to 20mph. Didnt realise there was a 20mph speed limit on descents, oops :P

paulbox

Mental Mickey wrote:

We are low on the totem pole apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPRwOGxSKU

Oh my god... What a complete and utter muppet.

Watched a few of the videos and they don't get any better. There is one on "how to accelerate", he says to keep your "butt" firmly on the seat to stop you "spinning out" and then proceeds to stand... :?

Re the OP, I think a lot of people have missed the point that this lane was wide enough that there shouldn't have been a problem. The guy who was climbing should just have moved over slightly and not have been a tosser (although I do agree that descenders should give way to climbers where there isn't as much room).

arthur_scrimshaw

Bartimaeus wrote:

Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:

Eranu wrote:

I think everyone is missing the key point here. Did Arthur stop for a pint at the pub and was it any good?

yes,it was nice but not cheap. Unfortunately we were too late for food. Even so it was a bit deserted, we were the last two there and the staff were putting down the umbrellas all around us. We headed back through Stoughton past the Hare and Hounds which was still packed.

What's your bike then, Arthur? I'm often in that area - particularly now the climb up the hill from Stoughton past the memorial is a featrure of most of my KV rides. If I see you I'll buy you a pint. Still haven't met up with Eranu yet... must fix that!

Nothing exotic - Rockhopper



Live in Chichester and the ride we were on was up Centurion way to West Dean then up to SDW. along to Hooks Way, Stoughton and back over KV then roads back home. I'll take you up on your offer!! (and buy you one back of course)

Cheers

arthur_scrimshaw

Bartimaeus wrote:

I believe it was this track - it gets a bit rougher further up, but basically it's an unmetalled lane.

yes that's the one!

Mental Mickey

PaulBox wrote:

Mental Mickey wrote:

We are low on the totem pole apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPRwOGxSKU

Oh my god... What a complete and utter muppet.

Watched a few of the videos and they don't get any better. There is one on "how to accelerate", he says to keep your "butt" firmly on the seat to stop you "spinning out" and then proceeds to stand... :?

Re the OP, I think a lot of people have missed the point that this lane was wide enough that there shouldn't have been a problem. The guy who was climbing should just have moved over slightly and not have been a tosser (although I do agree that descenders should give way to climbers where there isn't as much room).

I learnt to mountain bike by simply watching his videos, then doing the opposite. :P

paulbox

Mental Mickey wrote:

I learnt to mountain bike by simply watching his videos, then doing the opposite. :P

fielonator

cooldad wrote:

I would expect someone coming down a hill to give way to me if I'm climbing. (On a road/track, not a trail).

Not sure about this. Slowing down or stopping on a good descent can spoil the whole thing. Quite often I ride back up and go again if a good fast descent is interupted. I know I'd get out of the way if I saw someone coming downill.

Walkers in my area are generally very considerate, those that aren't are usually women engaged in vigorous conversation (both at the same time) about "her in the post office" or shoes. Sorry ladies but I wouldn't mention it if it were not true.

cooldad

fielonator wrote:

cooldad wrote:

I would expect someone coming down a hill to give way to me if I'm climbing. (On a road/track, not a trail).

Not sure about this. Slowing down or stopping on a good descent can spoil the whole thing. Quite often I ride back up and go again if a good fast descent is interupted. I know I'd get out of the way if I saw someone coming downill.

Walkers in my area are generally very considerate, those that aren't are usually women engaged in vigorous conversation (both at the same time) about "her in the post office" or shoes. Sorry ladies but I wouldn't mention it if it were not true.

Try reading the whole topic.

Northwind

For walkers, descenders give way to climbers. For mountain bikes, you're generally climbing so you can descend later so the climbers should give way to avoid spoiling the descent. IMO of course but it just seems blooming obvious. What's the worst that happens to the climber, they get a bit of a rest? O noe!