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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I didnt think the racing was that good at the TOC last year - but the scenery in HD was worth watching. What was the stage up to the Lake ? Stunning.
  • Gingerflash
    Gingerflash Posts: 239
    I'm not too excited about the TOC.

    I disagree that it doesn't affect the Giro. The GC field for the Giro looks weaker than it has for a few years, and I'm sure the TOC is partl;y rtesponsible for that. In some cases, it'll be because they want to ride a one week race as training rather than three weeks, but that in itself is hardly great for the TOC. No-one really goes to the Giro as training (apart from Sky's ill-fated attempt last year).

    Also, I do beleive the coverage clashes for most people who will be at work in the day and have to try to cram in recorded Giro, or highlights, as well as live TOC coverage in the same evening. It'll be tricky to follow both races without taking time off work or upsetting the rest of the household.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Gingerflash wrote:
    I'm not too excited about the TOC.

    I disagree that it doesn't affect the Giro. The GC field for the Giro looks weaker than it has for a few years, and I'm sure the TOC is partl;y rtesponsible for that. In some cases, it'll be because they want to ride a one week race as training rather than three weeks, but that in itself is hardly great for the TOC. No-one really goes to the Giro as training (apart from Sky's ill-fated attempt last year).

    i think that's because the Giros of late have been so hard, not because of the ToC.

    No-one apart from Leipheimer goes into the ToC in GT winning form. They do for the Giro.
    _
  • Gingerflash
    Gingerflash Posts: 239
    You might be right. It does seem that the tougher the route, the weaker the field, as the top GC riders realise that it'll ruin them for the TDF.

    One thing I can't stand about the TOC is the irritating "look at me" american fans in fancy dress, getting in the way and generally making a spectacle of themselves.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Gingerflash wrote:

    One thing I can't stand about the TOC is the irritating "look at me" american fans in fancy dress, getting in the way and generally making a spectacle of themselves.
    A reason I finally gave up going to the TDF. (I did return for the D'Huez Time Trial)
    That and the "Pink" dressed idiots that are more interested in themselves and not in the race they are supposed to be watching.

    Mam, did you see me on TV.
    Yeh, what a Pillock.

    I thought the scenary in the TOC was outstanding last year on the stage to Big Bear Lake.
    (but not the Tempo riding)
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Gingerflash wrote:
    One thing I can't stand about the TOC is the irritating "look at me" american fans in fancy dress, getting in the way and generally making a spectacle of themselves.

    This guy was good though...

    Syringe+Man+-+la13.jpg
  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Gingerflash wrote:
    One thing I can't stand about the TOC is the irritating "look at me" american fans in fancy dress, getting in the way and generally making a spectacle of themselves.

    This guy was good though...

    Syringe+Man+-+la13.jpg

    Two seconds later he was flat on his arse if i recall correctly.
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • cornoyemade
    cornoyemade Posts: 180
    looking forward to seeing Goss unleash his rapid sprint.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Moray Gub wrote:
    Two seconds later he was flat on his ars* if i recall correctly.

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    Seems someone took a dislike to his outfit!

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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    Two seconds later he was flat on his ars* if i recall correctly.
    Seems someone took a dislike to his outfit!

    92316-3059.jpg
    yeh, A back stabbing Thug hit him from behind.
    The thug managed to get from the middle of the peloton to do it.

    The action in the picture proves the truth hurts and cannot be ignored.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    deejay wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    Two seconds later he was flat on his ars* if i recall correctly.
    Seems someone took a dislike to his outfit!

    92316-3059.jpg
    yeh, A back stabbing Thug hit him from behind.
    The thug managed to get from the middle of the peloton to do it.

    The action in the picture proves the truth hurts and cannot be ignored.

    I am trying to figure out what LA pushing a fanny dressed up with syringes proves ? oh and LA was the edge of the peleton before he reached the guy as the earlier picture shows.
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Moray Gub wrote:
    I am trying to figure out what LA pushing a fanny dressed up with syringes proves ?

    A fanny? That's not a nice thing to call Jeff Novitzky...
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    Just a heads up its on next week ITV4 live. Times vary between 9 and 10pm so check your listings.
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  • durhamwasp
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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:

    92316-3059.jpg

    The action in the picture proves the truth hurts and cannot be ignored.
    I am trying to figure out what LA pushing a fanny dressed up with syringes proves ?
    150 riders or so and only one didn't like the demonstator.

    Proves who has the biggest GUILT in that Peloton.

    The Fanny wins that round easily.
    No knockout blow there yet
    For that he needs his minders everywhere to protect his Shame.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    Proves who has the biggest GUILT in that Peloton

    I'm prepared to bet that there are other riders who are equally guilty in that peloton.
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    deejay wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:

    92316-3059.jpg

    The action in the picture proves the truth hurts and cannot be ignored.
    I am trying to figure out what LA pushing a fanny dressed up with syringes proves ?
    150 riders or so and only one didn't like the demonstator.

    Proves who has the biggest GUILT in that Peloton.

    The Fanny wins that round easily.
    No knockout blow there yet
    For that he needs his minders everywhere to protect his Shame.

    Of those 150 riders, which one do you think Mr Fanny made a point of screaming in the ear of and run up alongside?
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  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    Given the news about Novtizky/Armstrong today, can we assume that LA is defo NOT racing in Cali?

    I've not look at the start list but if he was I assume there would be a headline in CN about it.

    Reason I ask is that Harmon/Maggy were talking during a boring pause in the Crit Int'l that LA was indeed 'coming back' for Cali.

    (Crit Intl was a beautiful race to watch btw, la Corse is lovely, wasn't boring, it was after the stage and they were waiting for the podium stuff)
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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    Proves who has the biggest GUILT in that Peloton
    I'm prepared to bet that there are other riders who are equally guilty in that peloton.
    I used Careful wording because of that point and wouldn't bet against you.
    The peloton didn't seem to have the same GUILTY Conscience and if that GUILT had not been so deep with him, then the incident would have passed without too much notice.

    Defend the bum all you like but the Texan certainly put the notoriety to that scene.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    FransJacques wrote:
    Given the news about Novtizky/Armstrong today, can we assume that LA is defo NOT racing in Cali?

    I've not look at the start list but if he was I assume there would be a headline in CN about it.

    Reason I ask is that Harmon/Maggy were talking during a boring pause in the Crit Int'l that LA was indeed 'coming back' for Cali.

    (Crit Intl was a beautiful race to watch btw, la Corse is lovely, wasn't boring, it was after the stage and they were waiting for the podium stuff)

    Lance is retired.
    _
  • josame
    josame Posts: 1,162
    Nice one ITV4 ya beauty!
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  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    deejay wrote:
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    Proves who has the biggest GUILT in that Peloton
    I'm prepared to bet that there are other riders who are equally guilty in that peloton.
    I used Careful wording because of that point and wouldn't bet against you.
    The peloton didn't seem to have the same GUILTY Conscience and if that GUILT had not been so deep with him, then the incident would have passed without too much notice.

    Defend the bum all you like but the Texan certainly put the notoriety to that scene.


    There is no other way to say this but you dont half talk some pish at times.
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Moray Gub wrote:


    There is no other way to say this but you dont half talk some pish at times.
    If that's the best that comes out of your Sporran, then keep groping and you might find something interesting to talk about.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • jp1985
    jp1985 Posts: 434
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/follow-the-amgen-tour-of-california-press-conference-live

    ToC press conference is live here now
  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    deejay wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:


    There is no other way to say this but you dont half talk some pish at times.
    If that's the best that comes out of your Sporran, then keep groping and you might find something interesting to talk about.

    Its quite revealing that you constantly make references to my nationality its say more about you than me.
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    For god's sake you two. This a thread about the Tour of California, but you want to squabble over a retired cyclist.

    No-one wins. You're both losers.

    You may as well have a rumble about Coppi and Bartoli on the Giro thread
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    jp1985 wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/follow-the-amgen-tour-of-california-press-conference-live

    ToC press conference is live here now

    Watching this now, who's the American rider sat next to Phinney?

    Edit: Oh never mind. Scrolled down, duh. Ben King.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Freire must be wondering why he bothered to turn up. Hasn't said a word yet!
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    RichN95 wrote:
    For god's sake you two. This a thread about the Tour of California, but you want to squabble over a retired cyclist.

    No-one wins. You're both losers.

    You may as well have a rumble about Coppi and Bartoli on the Giro thread
    Just can't help taking (whatever) out of thicko's and the old fart was in the photo that started this, I think
    I leave the rumble about Fausto and Gino to the Gazzetta where most of it started.

    However Tour of California from now on.
    Will they be Cycling or Skiing this year. ?? :roll:
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • Will.C
    Will.C Posts: 245
    Just a hunch, but anyone half expecting Armstrong to make a surprise comeback for this one?

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