max heart rate

wayne10244

Hello having just recovered from a heart attack at the age 41 and having 3 stents what would be the safest max heart rate. When i had my last check up and i was on the tread mill my max heart rate was 175bpm and my chest was sore for 2 days after but the doctor said it could go higher my resting heart rate is 52bpm . but the meds that i take keep my heart rate low anyway so if you could help in any way ? thanks :?:

Wooliferkins

I'd have a serious and specific chat with your Dr.

diy

There are half a dozen different methods which are all +- 10%. 170-182bpm. Personally I reckon 182 is bit on the high side. I'm reasonably fit and the same age and really can't sustain more than 175 for long

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/maxhr.htm

I don't think you should rely on these. I think your doc should decide.

wayne10244

When i was going to cardiac rehab they said about 154bpm but i seem to go over that most of the time

hard-rider

I'm 44 and according to which formula you use my max HR is between 176 and 188. Last weekend I hit 190 on a steep climb and I often sit at around 175-180 when pushing hard.

I asked my doctor about the max HR and she said the only way to really know is to see a sports doctor and do a series of tests.

As for your case with stents I would check specifically with your doctor that did the operation as your stents have opened some of the arteries but you may still have many smaller ones still blocked or restricted which would put more strain on your heart.

ats

wayne10244
your story rings a bell .i had 3 heart attacks in a week and had 3 stents fitted.that was 2 years ago i now mtb 5 times a week doing anything from 8 to 20+ miles.the best advice u will get is listen to your body if u feel tired dont push it.as we all know your heart is a muscle and needs excercise to grow stronger.dont over do it to start with and your heart rate will slowly improve .but talk to your G.P

Anonymous

Ignore anything you read on this forum, and go and seek some expert advice. Seriously. This stuff isn't worth messing about with.

cooldad

yeehaamcgee wrote:

Ignore anything you read on this forum, and go and seek some expert advice. Seriously. This stuff isn't worth messing about with.

This and only this.

njee20

Ignore anything you read on this forum, and go and seek some expert advice. Seriously. This stuff isn't worth messing about with.

Definitely!

Dont' look at any of the 'calculation' methods either, they can be way out. This is something you really need to get a personal consultation on.

blablablacksheep

ofc the best thing is to talk to a expert ie your GP

though doesnt mean the end of doing fitness though, reading ralph fiennes and his heart attack is a good example

hope it works out.

supersonic

I take beta blockers, and it really does bugger your heart rate up. As above, a specific chat with a doc who lnows the score is the way forward.

Anonymous

blablablacksheep wrote:

ofc the best thing is to talk to a expert ie your GP

Talk to your GP to get you an appointment with a real expert, e.g. consultant specialising in heart conditions, physios who deal with patients with heart conditions, etc.

GPs are not always good for expert advice in my opinion. They can give you generalised advice but a specialist would be far better. GPs are a nightmare to get appointments also. Takes me months to get to see mine, otherwise I'll be palmed off with some locum and from past experience they are useless and it's a waste of time.

As for max heart rate. In a person with no problems, I believe there's no real upper limit and everyone is different. I've never measured mine riding using a heart rate monitor, but just feeling the pounding in my chest I can sometimes feel 4 beats in a second, which makes it 240bpm! Doesn't seem to be a problem.

Important thing also is how fast the heart rate returns to normal when stopped, although in my experience I'm always a fair bit higher than my at home resting rate (which even then at home I'm a bit over the normal resting rate for many hours after a ride).

But in this case, definitely seek advice.

Anonymous

deadkenny wrote:

GPs are not always good for expert advice in my opinion. They can give you generalised advice but...

Give that man a Nobel.

blablablacksheep

yeehaamcgee wrote:

deadkenny wrote:

GPs are not always good for expert advice in my opinion. They can give you generalised advice but...

Give that man a Nobel.

GP iits in the name general practitioner

But like you said they not great for specific issues mainly a person to give you a reference which you will need to then see someone expert in your field of problem.

cooldad

blablablacksheep wrote:

yeehaamcgee wrote:

deadkenny wrote:

GPs are not always good for expert advice in my opinion. They can give you generalised advice but...

Give that man a Nobel.

GP iits in the name general practitioner

But like you said they not great for specific issues mainly a person to give you a reference which you will need to then see someone expert in your field of problem.

Thanks for explaining that, I woukld never have guessed.

Anonymous

I just see GPs as a pain in the ass. You need them to get a referral to someone who knows their stuff or give you a prescription, but they're a nightmare to get to see and give you rubbish advice.

Think we may as well replace them with an online service. Can already get repeat prescriptions online. Just need a tick box to request a referral to a specialist and can kick them out then.

Anything else non vital, just pop along to a Walk In Centre. Had far more use out of them than the GPs.

Or, get yourself in a serious condition and get into ICU. Then you're really sorted as they really do sort you out. NHS may be generally rubbish, but they do that bit really well.

Anonymous

deadkenny wrote:

I just see GPs as a pain in the ass.

That's probably haemorrhoids. You should go see a proctologist, I guess.

Father Faff

I think the truth is you need to try and work it out for yourself. Some GPs will know a bit about specialised areas but a specialist will know a good deal more but they won't necessarily know everyhting. Do some internet research as well as this will give you lots of different views. Everyones heart isdiffernet and I was astonished that my resting rate was below 50 at the age of 50 and went to over 190 when pushing hard when I first got a heart rate monitor but then I may die tomorrow.

Anonymous

You're suggesting doing internet research instead of seeing a specialist? Are you actually fucking insane?

cooldad

yeehaamcgee wrote:

You're suggesting doing internet research instead of seeing a specialist? Are you actually fucking insane?

I did some internet research and he's either fucking insane or batsh1t crazy to use the correct medical term..

Father Faff

Of course you take the advice of your specilalist but they don't know everything so you can find interesting things on the internet (that they are doing in the US for example) - but yes good idea to check with your specialist anything "new" you find on the internet!

Anonymous

Why even bother with professionals when we have google.

Anonymous

According to Google I'm dying of every illness and condition on the planet. In fact I believe I'm already dead.

Father Faff

Believe it or not you get arrogant doctors and consultants who think they know everything.....

Anonymous

Father Faff wrote:

Believe it or not you get arrogant doctors and consultants who think they know everything.....

I know. It's quite amazing that someone would presume they know more than you after doing nothing more than study medicine, then study more specific medicine, for a great many years.
I mean, they can't possibly have the internet, can they?

Charlatans.

cooldad

I have heard that faith healers are the way to go.

Father Faff

So are you saying that all Doctors and Consultants get it right all of the time? There wouldn't be medical negligence cases if they did. I am not sure why you are so aggressive - the internet is a useful tool and I've used it to help understand injuries I've suffered and methods of rehabilitating them. Doctors and consultants don't have time to explain such things in my experience. Also on the NHS you can wait ages to see a specilaist or for treatment and you simply not know what the best thing to do is. You seem to fail to understand what I am saying matey.

Father Faff

cooldad wrote:

I have heard that faith healers are the way to go.

Praise the Lord!

Anonymous

Father Faff wrote:

So are you saying that all Doctors and Consultants get it right all of the time? There wouldn't be medical negligence cases if they did. I am not sure why you are so aggressive.

Well, basically, what I've written is that I agree with you. However, you have proven that you are in fact, batshit crazy, by taking that as being outright offensive.
I find it's a good barometer of insanity - agree with someone, and if they go nuts, you pretty much know they're talking crap.

Consultants don't get it right all the time, of course not. However, they get it right far more often than internet crackpots. You don't need any qualification to publish anything on the internet.
Anyway, wouldn't medical neglicence be "not doing something", whereas a consultant getting it wrong would be "malpractice"?

Father Faff

Dear YeeHaaMcGee

I am seriously concerned about your mental health. As a first port of call can I suggest this crackpot website www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk to see what they say about people who have made 18,529 posts on Bike Radar? If they can not help I would suggest visiting your GP to see what he/she has to say about your obvious addiction to conversing with crackpots on the internet.

Yours deeply concerned,

Father Faff

Anonymous

I've been here for a very very long time, and frequently engage in discussions. What's so surprising about that?