Pedal WILL NOT come off!!!!!

RupertCommunicator

Ok, My Kona Wah Wah drive side pedal is not coming off. They are 6mm Allen key only, no spanners. Have rounded about 6 allen keys on it, including expensive Chrome Vanadium ones. Am turning the right way, have tried WD40, chain lube, boiling water, frozen peas on the axle, wrecking bar, hammer, holding the axle over my stove.

THE BASTARD WON'T COME OFF!

Help me, for my sanity's sake!

WisePranker

Are you SURE you're turning it the right way?

RupertCommunicator

Yes, I check every time! Looking at the other pedal I'm about to put in to check that it would indeed move the thread outwards.

My sanity is slipping away.

Would freezing it overnight do anything, or should I go balls deep and heat the crank for about a minute over my gas cooker?

peter413

Your sure you are inserting the allen key properly as well and not forcing it out as you are trying to force the thing to budge, I've rounded many an allen key doing this

RupertCommunicator

The keys are in fully and straight in.

Lapierre t 400

Have you tried giving the allen key a couple of taps with a hammer,then put the ring of a 17 or 19 mm spanner on it and give it a try

Try soaking it in WD 40 overnight but I wouldn't try heating it.

RupertCommunicator

Lapierre t 400 wrote:

Have you tried giving the allen key a couple of taps with a hammer,then put the ring of a 17 or 19 mm spanner on it and give it a try

Try soaking it in WD 40 overnight but I wouldn't try heating it.

I've tried twatting it with a hammer then using an old handlebar for leverage. Hence my half dozen bent, twisted and rounded allen keys.

Lapierre t 400

are the pedals dead?

RupertCommunicator

No! Just switching from flats to SPDs!

Lapierre t 400

if they were I would have suggested drilling them out

RupertCommunicator

I might have a drive to the local garage tommorrow and see if they have an ubertool with a 6mm hex on the end.

Lapierre t 400

you could try getting it off with some of these and a ratchet

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ ... key-sets-2

angry_bird

You need more torque, I'd suggest a BMW 335D.

unixnerd

Before you rounded off the allen fitting you should have used an impact screwdriver. You might still get away with that.

The Rookie

Heat the arm, the ally will expand faster (and more) than the steel of the pedal, use a small blow torch.

Simon

Anonymous

Or plusgas.
I think this is some kind of god's way of telling you that flats are what you should ride!

supafly1982

if an impact driver does not get it out then heat most certainly will, get a blow torch, nice blue flame, heat till cherry red then wack it with the impact driver, correct bit and hammer, might be only way

heez29

Or get a 6mm allen key socket and a breaker bar?

RupertCommunicator

Its Bank Holiday, so no garage, or LBS! Fucking christians! Have had another go, but to no avail. Hopefully the garage will be open tommorrow...

estampida

so,

if the 6mm allen socket cap hole is goosed, there is other options

remove the assembley from the bike

remove pedal body

clamp pedal axle in vice

use crank arm as lever to unscrew

new axels to fit avaialble form superstar

but the thread in the crank could be damaged in process, but you want it out so..........


or try to hammer in a tork of imperial allen key that i slightly bigger than 6mm into the damged socket cap, once its sort of seated you should apply some radial (unscrewing) action to try and break conection whilst still driving the key home.

The Rookie

Start with a decent 6mm socket and a ratchet, heat the arm (it won't go cherry red, its ally and would melt by then!), you can try plusgas (WD40 if you don't have any). keep squirting it on the back as you heat.

Simon

RupertCommunicator

estampida wrote:

so,

if the 6mm allen socket cap hole is goosed, there is other options

remove the assembley from the bike

remove pedal body

clamp pedal axle in vice

use crank arm as lever to unscrew

new axels to fit avaialble form superstar

but the thread in the crank could be damaged in process, but you want it out so..........


or try to hammer in a tork of imperial allen key that i slightly bigger than 6mm into the damged socket cap, once its sort of seated you should apply some radial (unscrewing) action to try and break conection whilst still driving the key home.

It's 7 quid for the Superstar axle. Have tried mole grips on my axle, with and without rubber grip. Have also tried hammering 1/4 inch hex key as well as various flat head ends. My garage will be getting a visit tommorrow...

gtd.

Halfords sell individual 6mm allen key sockets


Use with a 3/8" breaker bar should remove it it easily with a bit of Plus-Gas



If the socket breaks or rounds take it back they have a lifetime guarantee

pilsburypie

RupertCommunicator wrote:

Its Bank Holiday, so no garage, or LBS! ******* christians!

Here is your problem.... start praying.

pastey_boy

stilsons and me = problem sorted

RupertCommunicator

Problem solved! Local garage solved problem with proper tools.

Crank in vice, proper allen bit (obviously much harder than mine!) and big bar that properly holds allen keys.

Seems that garages do indeed have better quality stuff than you get in DIY shops!

Just been out on SPDs, and wasn't as frightening as I remember! Even managed a run down a DH track, although it was probably about a minute slower than without SPDs.

Am still amazed at how efficient SPDs are. Was flying up the hills. Maybe I will now have to persevere with SPDs and learn how to ride gnarly stuff in a non pussy way whilst clipped in!

Anonymous

RupertCommunicator wrote:

Seems that garages do indeed have better quality stuff than you get in DIY shops!

NOOOOOOO, really? :shock:
Who'd have thunk it?

RupertCommunicator

yeehaamcgee wrote:

RupertCommunicator wrote:

Seems that garages do indeed have better quality stuff than you get in DIY shops!

NOOOOOOO, really? :shock:
Who'd have thunk it?

I was actually slightly embarrassed at how easily he shifted the pedal! Definitely highlights how much better a vice and bar are than upturned bike and allen key in a handlebar!

pilsburypie

A bad workman always blames his tools!

If it's any consolation I have a tool box full of terrible tools.

unixnerd

This is why you need good tools. Eventually cheap tools will wreck fasteners and cost more to repair. I use Snap-On / Blue-Point but I'm told Park Tools are pretty good too (and likely cheaper).

Mr OCD

unixnerd wrote:

This is why you need good tools. Eventually cheap tools will wreck fasteners and cost more to repair. I use Snap-On / Blue-Point but I'm told Park Tools are pretty good too (and likely cheaper).

No need for Snap-On / Blue-Point unless your in the trade ... I've used them both (still have a lot of it) and find the Halfords Professional Series of similar quality and a damn sight cheaper!