Gordon Brown

northernneil
northernneil Posts: 1,549
edited April 2011 in The bottom bracket
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  • toontra
    toontra Posts: 1,160

    Well, he did a great job of the UK economy, didn't he? :lol:


    a serious case of small cogs
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    What's wrong with him wanting to be the leader of the IMF on £270,000 per annum?

    Don't all left wing socialists? :twisted:
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • Keith47
    Keith47 Posts: 158
    I'm ordinarily a fairly quiet, placid type of guy, but in Gordon Browns case I would quite happily string him up by the balls and batter his smug face with a nail studded baseball bat. :twisted:
    The problem is we are not eating food anymore, we are eating food-like products.
  • Bozman
    Bozman Posts: 2,518
    God help us all!! The economic climate made Brown look like a good chancellor but the man spent too much, sold too much(gold, industry) and he never saved a penny for that inevitable rainy day.
    He's kindly left Joe public paying off his debt for the next 20 years
  • tlw1
    tlw1 Posts: 22,149
    Keith47 wrote:
    I'm ordinarily a fairly quiet, placid type of guy, but in Gordon Browns case I would quite happily string him up by the balls and batter his smug face with a nail studded baseball bat. :twisted:

    go for it :)
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    Is this the same IMF that was warning Gordon Brown about his spending as far back as 2003 which he promptly ignored? I liked Cameron's mild understatment when discussing this, that he 'might not be appropriate'. No sh1t Dave.

    If he gets the job it will right up there with Blair getting a job as a middle east peace envoy despite starting a war in that region when he was PM.
  • Zachariah
    Zachariah Posts: 782
    And therefore entirely in keeping with The Way Things Are.
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    But didn't he save the world and the banks :oops:
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Is this the same IMF that was warning Gordon Brown about his spending as far back as 2003 which he promptly ignored? I liked Cameron's mild understatment when discussing this, that he 'might not be appropriate'. No sh1t Dave.

    If he gets the job it will right up there with Blair getting a job as a middle east peace envoy despite starting a war in that region when he was PM.

    It's a strange old world:

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  • beverick
    beverick Posts: 3,461
    Bozman wrote:
    ........
    He's kindly left Joe public paying off his debt for the next 20 years

    As with GB, I think you've missed out a 0 there.

    It'll take 20 years to stabilise the economy before we can even think about paying back the debt.

    Bob
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    I thought this was an April fools when I first saw it.

    Will never happen ....... we hope.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Surely you'd think someone who was in charge of a nation during the global recession would have more relevant experience than most?

    He also punched above the UK's weight internationally > which is another useful attribute for running the IMF.
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    Surely you'd think someone who was in charge of a nation during the global recession would have more relevant experience than most?

    He also punched above the UK's weight internationally > which is another useful attribute for running the IMF.
    The man's a c**t - how can a chancellor who ignored his own 'Golden Rules', who changed the definitions of the economic cycle when t suited him, and indulged in an orgy of spending and p!ssing money over any cause that suited him even when it was clear that his luck had run out and that the favourable economic conditions were coming to an end, how can a twonk like that be given top job at the IMF? Strewth. I wouldn't trust him if he was in charge of paper napkins being under-study to the bloke who has to ask 'Fries with that?'.

    Cameron is right to suggest that he might not be entirely suitable. I'd like to hear what he did say when Brown's name was mentioned to him as a possibility.
  • Omar Little
    Omar Little Posts: 2,010
    He did a great job stabilising the economy (not just domestic but international leadership too) after the international financial collapse. I dont think people realise just how bad things could have gone - indeed could still go - if a different set of policy decisions had been made.

    In that respect he'd be a good choice as head of the IMF (although in saying that i dont agree with most of the neo liberal economics that the world bank and IMF promote!)
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    Surely you'd think someone who was in charge of a nation during the global recession would have more relevant experience than most?

    He also punched above the UK's weight internationally > which is another useful attribute for running the IMF.


    dont feed the troll
  • redrobbo
    redrobbo Posts: 727
    F***Ing Politics
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    He did a great job stabilising the economy (not just domestic but international leadership too) after the international financial collapse. I dont think people realise just how bad things could have gone - indeed could still go - if a different set of policy decisions had been made.

    In that respect he'd be a good choice as head of the IMF (although in saying that i dont agree with most of the neo liberal economics that the world bank and IMF promote!)

    Lets get this right, he overseas regulation in the banking industry which leads to global recession, he spends more than weve got for ten years, overseas mass immigration as a policy partly by admission to change the voting landscape in labours favour then borrows like fek to stop the crash and thats a great job????
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    He did a great job stabilising the economy (not just domestic but international leadership too) after the international financial collapse. I dont think people realise just how bad things could have gone - indeed could still go - if a different set of policy decisions had been made.

    In that respect he'd be a good choice as head of the IMF (although in saying that i dont agree with most of the neo liberal economics that the world bank and IMF promote!)

    Sorry but I'm never buying into this image of him being some sort of bold visionary coming up with a wonderful plan in our hour of need, preventing a banking collapse that would have involved cash machines being switched off and supermarkets shutting was a no-brainer, if he agonised over that as a decision for more than a minute then he is even more stupid than I give him credit for.
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    he does have one excuse though

    He couldnt see it coming.................


    Och the noo be away with ya the noo and dinny foul aour fair shores again ye whining fat scottish failure
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    I know it is only from Wikipedia but

    "Brown graduated from Edinburgh with First Class Honours MA in History in 1972, and stayed on to complete his PhD in History (which he gained ten years later in 1982), titled The Labour Party and Political Change in Scotland 1918–29."

    Sound like an ideal background for running the world's economy :?
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • 15peter20
    15peter20 Posts: 293
    BarryBonds wrote:
    He did a great job stabilising the economy (not just domestic but international leadership too) after the international financial collapse. I dont think people realise just how bad things could have gone - indeed could still go - if a different set of policy decisions had been made.

    In that respect he'd be a good choice as head of the IMF (although in saying that i dont agree with most of the neo liberal economics that the world bank and IMF promote!)

    Lets get this right, he overseas regulation in the banking industry which leads to global recession, he spends more than weve got for ten years, overseas mass immigration as a policy partly by admission to change the voting landscape in labours favour then borrows like fek to stop the crash and thats a great job????

    I think you mean 'oversees'.

    His regulation of Uk banking lead to the Global recession????!!!!!

    And what has immigration got to do with this?
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    He did a great job stabilising the economy (not just domestic but international leadership too) after the international financial collapse. I dont think people realise just how bad things could have gone - indeed could still go - if a different set of policy decisions had been made.

    In that respect he'd be a good choice as head of the IMF (although in saying that i dont agree with most of the neo liberal economics that the world bank and IMF promote!)

    With you on that, especially if Davey "we are all in it together, well, you poor folk are, my banker friends and I are still going to be rich" Cameron says its wrong then it must be right.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    He did a great job stabilising the economy (not just domestic but international leadership too) after the international financial collapse. I dont think people realise just how bad things could have gone - indeed could still go - if a different set of policy decisions had been made.

    In that respect he'd be a good choice as head of the IMF (although in saying that i dont agree with most of the neo liberal economics that the world bank and IMF promote!)

    With you on that, especially if Davey "we are all in it together, well, you poor folk are, my banker friends and I are still going to be rich" Cameron says its wrong then it must be right.

    Finally we agree on something Stewie!

    The nation is absolutely not all in it together to pull out of recession.
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    quote="BarryBonds"]overseas mass immigration as a policy partly by admission to change the voting landscape in labours favour [/quote] That didn't happen. Stop lying.
    then borrows like fek to stop the crash
    So he took action to stop the crash? Sounds good to me, unlike George Osborne and his "the snow caused a recession" bollorcks.
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Don't underestimate what a bad job Brown did as chancellor. I wouldn't blame him for the world recession, but a lot of the really bad stuff, happened in London because regulation was so lapse. Lehman, AIG etc.

    "It started in America" was his favourite mantra, but in reality it was first noticed in America, but the debt overhang was everywhere in the western world. The UK one of the worst positioned of all the larger nations. (Japan the only one worse).

    His actions to save the banks, has meant they're now paying out massive bonuses again and pretending it didn't happen, when other harsher options were available.

    The amount of extra money he spent (official govt debt), the number of off balance sheet initiatives he abused (PFI) and the number of extra people he employed (with unfunded pensions) is quite shocking!!

    All of this extra debt will be paid for by our children, who at the same time will only be able to afford a fraction of the public services that's been lavished on the nation for the last 10 years.

    The new lot don't seem that much better. Cuts! 0.6%??? How's that gonna stop the now inevitable state failure (see Greece over the next month, Ireland later this year).
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  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    How can you blame the Tories for the bankers, the banks were bailed out under Labour, Gordon Brown's off sheet initiatives PFI/PPI were funded by the banks, Labour and the banks worked together to give a debt fuelled illusion of wealth and keep people voting for Labour and borrowing from the banks.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    tebbit wrote:
    How can you blame the Tories for the bankers, the banks were bailed out under Labour, Gordon ?.

    Who is?
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    @ Rick

    I refer you to your agreement with Mr Griffin re Dave "my banker friends" Cameron, Mr Brown definitely was the banker's friend.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    tebbit wrote:
    @ Rick

    I refer you to your agreement with Mr Griffin re Dave "my banker friends" Cameron, Mr Brown definitely was the banker's friend.

    Indeed.

    So's Cameron.

    He's overseeing the re-structuring of banking regulation, and from where I'm sitting, bankers are pretty pleased it's him....
  • snailracer
    snailracer Posts: 968
    The pols gave us, the electorate, what we wanted. Which was a lifestyle beyond our means, funded by borrowing, backed by phantom rising house prices bought with more borrowed money.

    Blaming the previous government is simply a way of defining a scapegoat for the inevitable consequences of our own materialistic greed. It all happened before in the 80's, that time under the Conservatives.