What makes a good road bike?

Dog296

Hello all.

Due to the soaring fuel prices, I've been thinking of cycling to work.
I only have a MTB atm, and would like to keep it deadicated as a off-road XC.

So been swinging towards the idea of getting a road bike.

The commute is along a main A-Road, with the average speed of 50mph. So i don't want gearing thats going to make me a slow rider.

It's approx 10 miles there, and 10 miles back, so 20 miles in total.

Would like something that is going to be faster than my mountain bike, as I don't fancy the hour it'll take me to get into work on my MTB.

Any advice is welcome, but although I am ok atm MTB stuff, I'm still wet behind the ears with all this.

Thanks.

Berk Bonebonce

1/ Full length mudguards. You will come to love these.
2/ A rack and panniers, assuming you have to take stuff to and from work.

Peddle Up!

Decent hybrid? What's your budget?

Dog296

Not really sure on a budget tbh.
As I'd like a deadicated road bike.

As for carring stuff, I have a bag for that.

Valy

Howdy,

First of all - what kind of money are you looking to spend?

Generally the lighter stiffer and more compliant the better. At about £400-£500 is the entry range. Will get you around certainly. It will also feel more nible that your MTB.

How much faster it will be is difficult to say. It depends on how fit you are, whether you hgave slicks on your MTB and how upright you sit.

unixnerd

There are some superb details on 2010 model bikes at the moment. Type CAAD8 into google and press the "Shopping" sidebar and you'll see Cannondales from 449! 2011 model is about double that price I think. Same for things like Specialized Secteurs. At that sort of money even a good second hand bike doesn't seem so cheap.

You can fit race blade style mudguards to any bike and it's well worth doing.

MaxwellBygraves

I'd get a nice road bike, not hybrid.
Rucksacks are fine but a lot of people find they get uncomfortable after a while. Sweaty back no good.
So maybe don't rule out the pannier idea?

Dog296

MaxwellBygraves wrote:

I'd get a nice road bike, not hybrid.
Rucksacks are fine but a lot of people find they get uncomfortable after a while. Sweaty back no good.
So maybe don't rule out the pannier idea?

Yeh thats what I'm aiming for, a nice decent road deadicated road bike.
I've got a XC bike, so when I want to go off-road, I will and can

As for the rucksack... all I need is my lunch...

One Man And His Bike

Dog296, what road bike we can suggest depends on your budget, if you don't give us a scope we can't really point you in the right direction.

Half decent entry level bikes start at ~£500
(Numbered generic low end gearing/chainsets etc & might possibly squeeze in carbon forks if you are lucky.)

Mid level is ~£1000
(Higher named components, carbon forks/rear stays and more than capable of doing what you want and probably a lot more) - This is where I would say you may be best served for your needs and possible upgrades in how much you ride it.

After £1500 you are looking at decent entry level carbon frames
(Full carbon or Ti, higher end or mid level components and lighter than the previous above but possibly overkill for a commuter unless you get bitten by the bug and become more of a roadie.)

Beyond 2 grand is well outside my area so I shall leave thatf or others to wade in, if required.

Hope that helps get the ball rolling properly now. (:

R8JimBob88

Ive been commuting on a 2010 Specialized Allez. £500 new but can be had for under £400 now, probably less second hand.

Cracking bike 8)

Just be aware that you will be soon converted into a full time roadie

Mister W

The bike's gearing won't make you slow (or fast). It's your legs that do that.

Are you intending to ride every day, in all weathers? If you are then full length mudguards are a good idea. Something low maintenance is also a good idea, unless you want to spend every weekend cleaning and maintaining it. However, few road bikes fall into that category. The lowest maintenance bike I own is a hybrid with disk brakes and hub gears. It's not cool or stylish but it's comfortable, quick enough and needs nothing more than the occasional drop of oil on the chain.

Dog296

Well Sub £500 would be nice, cheaper the better tbh.
But I want a decent one for that price.

Full time roadie? I think not, I love XC far too much, I just wanted something else other than having to swap wheels and tyres on my GT to go road 5 times a week.

I'd rather have a deadicated road bike for work, and my GT as a play toy at weekends.

Seen some barracuda stuff around the web fairly, their stuff any good?

One Man And His Bike

Sub 500, eBay and second hand then, mooch about and see what is around to be had, then post links here and see what peoples verdict is.

unixnerd

Seen some barracuda stuff around the web fairly, their stuff any good?

Not the lightest bikes on the market, a bit basic. If you're spending under 500 that Cannondale CAAD8 I mentioned above or a Specialized Secteur / Allez would be my choice. They both have decent frames that are worth upgrading over time.

rake

something with and aluminium frame, enough clearance for mudguards between frame and tyres, a lot of frames are quite tight and will hinder this. also look for a frame with eyelets to attach them. the next thing is wheels. id go for 32 spoke cross three to be upto the general pot holed reliable commute. you want reliability the order of the day, so dont look for very light weight (and very expensive) stuff. the speed difference of a few pounds is negligable in this capacity. tyres, for reliability again money well spent on decent tyres. not lightweight race tyres but good puncture resistance training/touring tyres. also 25mm rear and 23mm front gives a very good durable comfortable balannce, again you need the clearance for this when running mudguards. gearing, good value sora or tiagra would be my bet- reliable/works well and doesnt cost the earth. to give an idea my sora equipped bike 9 years old still works fine after thousands of miles. slightly wider chains of 8 or 9 speed are probable beneficial for every day use.

Fenred

One that when you look at it.....You cant wait to ride it!!!

Dog296

I really like the spesh Allez! Really really like tbh.
Seen a few of the cannondale's about, seem good value!

MaxwellBygraves

Dog296 wrote:

Full time roadie? I think not, I love XC far too much

Ok we'll see what you say in a few months time

Dog296

Need to get a road bike first.

Think I'm going to see what's around after may. I should have some pennies then.

unixnerd

Just had a look at pricing on Allezs myself out of curiosity. An awful lot of folk are still selling the 8 speed version, be sure to get the newer 9 speed as 8 speed is old technology now and you'll kick yourself later. I'm a Cannondale man myself but I must admit I prefer the look of the Allez to the CAAD8, it's a nice bike. That said I think you get more for your money and a better frame with the CAAD8. Frankly both are good, it's hard to go wrong.

Full time roadie? I think not, I love XC far too much

Care put your money where your mouth is? :twisted: Only joking.

furrag

A pair of tits on the handlebars.

Dog296

A pair of tits...
There are plenty of tits behind the wheels of cars, I don't fancy any on my bike lol!

Tbh, What I'll get will depend on price. But it'll either be a Allez or a CAAD8

meanredspider

If you're only taking your lunch, a belt bag is a great compromise. I have an Innov-8 one from Wiggle that would easily swallow all but the greediest person's lunch and has side pockets for spare inners, tools etc - and keeps my back and shoulders entirely free. Once I've put it on, I'm really not aware of it. It doubles as a water carrier for your XC days.

As for mud gurards, again, I steer a slightly different line from most. After experimenting with various full-size ones and being irritated by them, I just have a rear Zefal swan guards (similar to the crud catcher thing but designed for road bikes) that works brilliantly to keep my ass and back dry. The beauty of it is that it's removeable in 5 secs. This is especially helpful if I want to remove the wheels from my bike and sling it in the boot of my car (in fact I just rotate it forward for that). It attaches to the seat post so no need for mounting points or silly rubber bands to hold it in place.

secretsqizz

Peddle Up! wrote:

Decent hybrid? What's your budget?

unbeliever... get out of the roadie section with you..
you'll end up fatwahed

CiB

Good advice so far (I expect. Haven't read all the thread).

I'd suggest you post a similar thread over in Commuting Chat - you'll get a lot of sage advice, and be told firmly not to bother with a hybrid. It's all or nothing over there.

Try this for a kick-off.

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12760848

rolf_f

One Man And His Bike wrote:

After £1500 you are looking at decent entry level carbon frames

Make that £900 for decent entry level carbon framed bikes. Otherwise you dismiss Planet X and Ribble which really do deliver very good Carbon framed bikes from about that price level.

crazy88

Don't worry mate, you'll be safe with your XC hobby. I commute to work on a road bike (with flat bars) and still prefer the mtb'ing...a lot more. Sure, it's fun going to work on the road bike, but it's still not the same fun as flying through the woods and over jumps etc.

As for what to buy, i'll leave others to give advice there. However, I have never bothered with mud guards of any description. If it's raining I just slap the waterproof trousers on as I go to work, and on the way home I just get soaked, it's all the more fun.

paully617

I am in exactly the same boat mate!!!
I am now stuck between:
Trek pilot 2.0 at 575,
The cannondale caad 8 at 430
And the bianchi via nerone sora.

I normally ride xc/all mountain stuff and have never ridden a road bike. My work place is 18 miles each way so should be uber fit in no time!!!

I have asked loads of roadies for their opinions and am still confused!

Can anyone suggest a good one from my shortlist??

MaxwellBygraves

paully617
Thats a good price on the Cannondale (if you can get hold of one)
Nowt wrong with the other two, how much is the Via Nirone?

paully617

About 550

MaxwellBygraves

paully617
My personal opinion would be to get the caad8 and then save the money you have left for accessories.