Cavendish - grow up.

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  • dexradio
    dexradio Posts: 54
    There was nothing wrong with that interview in my view.

    There is no denying his fantastic talent. But, he is a tool, and while I fully recognise his talent, I'll never be a fan.

    Don't make me unleash my Caps Lock :P

    Dex.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    The interview was fine- he's not arrogant, just confident.
    Can anyone name a successful sprinter who was timid?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Tusher wrote:
    Can anyone name a successful sprinter who was timid?

    Petacchi?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Petacchi's timid??
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tusher wrote:
    Can anyone name a successful sprinter who was timid?

    Petacchi?

    The same Petacchi who once broke his hand punching the team bus?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RichN95 wrote:

    The same Petacchi who once broke his hand punching the team bus?

    I don't really know anything about sprinters. He always seemed a bit timid in interviews. Perhaps he struggled to get the word out with his asthma and all.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • chapps
    chapps Posts: 164
    Cav is a fantastic rider and will go on and on. He is our best by a mile outside track disciplines and gets a lot of attention from the non cycling public who tune in July time.

    He has said a few silly comments in the past and the arm gesture across the line was silly too. I know he wanted to get a personal point accross but maybe forgets he has a job to do i.e the names on the Jersey are paying him.
    On the subject of this particular video I dont see that he is being out of order.

    I was no Cav fan when he came to talk off the bike and bought the book just to get a better idea of the man, I didnt change my opinion, I still felt he has some growing up to do but I guess we have all been guilty of that at some point.

    Im not going to run him down. All I could say on the subject is after watching "Chasing Legends" questions and answers after the film and also Sports personality. He could do with a little help with getting his point across. I.E media coaching. Im not saying give text book answers or dont talk about this or that. Watching him I often think you can see what he wants to say but dosent intepret it too well.
    Best of British
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    snakeeater wrote:
    You want respect from the media but you criticise someone who asks a general question about your training. He was only asking confirmation that you're in control and not getting behind in any way. Just grow up and give us a good answer for a change instead of treating people with contempt just because they're not on the 'inside'.


    I'm going to suggest that YOU grow up. You sound as though you want all the riders to act the way YOU want them to. Just about anyone can tell you that it's NOT going to happen. There are all types of people in this world, some of them race bikes, some of these racers are idiots and some are nice guys, but none of them are going to be much else than themselves no matter who or what you think they should be, do, or say.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    iainf72 wrote:
    Tusher wrote:
    Can anyone name a successful sprinter who was timid?

    Petacchi?

    Isn't Farrar a Buddhist or something? He seems very level-headed and well spoken in all the interviews I've seen with him.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Farrar is indeed a peace loving Buddhist. He's possibly even a vegetarian.


    Which is why he's not the fastest sprinter in the world. And why he's not going to be either.

    He's simply a very fast cyclist, which is different from being a top-class sprinter.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Tusher wrote:
    Farrar is indeed a peace loving Buddhist. He's possibly even a vegetarian.


    Which is why he's not the fastest sprinter in the world. And why he's not going to be either.

    He's simply a very fast cyclist, which is different from being a top-class sprinter.

    Harsh :shock:

    There's a big gap between the #1 sprinter and the #2 (Farrar) - but there's a decent gap between #2 and the rest, too.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    True.

    But he's lacking that raw, I dunno, raw emotion I suppose.
    True sprinters are invariably characters. You either love 'em or hate 'em. Farrar's simply too nice all the time. He's not bland, he's just....nice.

    And sprinters don't do 'nice' when they've just lost a sprint. They fume, they curse, they smash team buses and they chuck their toys out the pram.

    They keep nice for when they've cooled down.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    Don't know about there being much a gap between Farrar and the next best - if he's better than Petacchi for one he's certainly not better by a distance. Come to that don't think Petacchi is the smash up the bus type either but it doesn't seem to have held him back.
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  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    I think there's more to Farrar than GT stage-race sprinter - he has the capacity to do well in some of the high-profile Classics.

    Cav is a true specialist - like a field-goal kicker in Amercian Football, rolled out to work his magic when required, which does come with incredible pressure................and, no doubt, relief.
  • curium
    curium Posts: 815
    He's looking quite unfit in the the tour of Qatar.

    Is he doing Paris-Nice?
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    dilemna wrote:
    snakeeater wrote:
    You want respect from the media but you criticise someone who asks a general question about your training. He was only asking confirmation that you're in control and not getting behind in any way. Just grow up and give us a good answer for a change instead of treating people with contempt just because they're not on the 'inside'.

    You don't know Mark Cavendish from Adam. Have you read Boy Racer? If not I suggest you do.

    PMSL thats an authorative insight is it? ask his girlfriend she might not agree and shes had the err "inside track"
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Bah, Cavendish is an amateur when it comes to answering "silly" questions from journalists...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuiGC9H ... re=related

    (about 4:45 in, also like the way he "leans" his bike against the car at about 4:05)
  • shakey88
    shakey88 Posts: 289
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Bah, Cavendish is an amateur when it comes to answering "silly" questions from journalists...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuiGC9H ... re=related

    (about 4:45 in, also like the way he "leans" his bike against the car at about 4:05)

    Sporting some pretty impressive tan lines too.Great footage,who was that dick with the tape recorder asking the dumbest questions ever! Looked like dave lee travis(circa 1980's)
  • wicked
    wicked Posts: 844
    BarryBonds wrote:
    dilemna wrote:
    snakeeater wrote:
    You want respect from the media but you criticise someone who asks a general question about your training. He was only asking confirmation that you're in control and not getting behind in any way. Just grow up and give us a good answer for a change instead of treating people with contempt just because they're not on the 'inside'.

    You don't know Mark Cavendish from Adam. Have you read Boy Racer? If not I suggest you do.

    PMSL thats an authorative insight is it? ask his girlfriend she might not agree and shes had the err "inside track"

    I was under the impression this was a cycling forum but it appears that a certain riders ex girlfriends opinion is relevant? Who gives a toss what happened between two consenting adults? Obviously you have never broken off a relationship with a woman then? Perhaps you always the one dumped? :wink:
    Couples break up for all sorts of reasons and frankly it is no-ones business.

    Now if we can leave the Dear Deirdre behind for just a moment the bloke is fucking good bike rider and he can do want he likes with own free time.
    It’s the most beautiful sport in the world but it’s governed by ***ts who have turned it into a crock of ****.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    shakey88 wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Bah, Cavendish is an amateur when it comes to answering "silly" questions from journalists...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuiGC9H ... re=related

    (about 4:45 in, also like the way he "leans" his bike against the car at about 4:05)

    Sporting some pretty impressive tan lines too.Great footage,who was that dick with the tape recorder asking the dumbest questions ever! Looked like dave lee travis(circa 1980's)

    It's Keith Bingham from Cycling Weekly. This is another good one with Paul Sherwin asking the questions!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXEmv-G2 ... re=related
  • carl_p
    carl_p Posts: 989
    pedro118118 wrote:
    I think there's more to Farrar than GT stage-race sprinter - he has the capacity to do well in some of the high-profile Classics.

    Cav is a true specialist - like a field-goal kicker in Amercian Football, rolled out to work his magic when required, which does come with incredible pressure................and, no doubt, relief.

    Farrar will win his fair share of races. Just not the ones Cav is in :wink:
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  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    wicked wrote:
    BarryBonds wrote:
    dilemna wrote:
    snakeeater wrote:
    You want respect from the media but you criticise someone who asks a general question about your training. He was only asking confirmation that you're in control and not getting behind in any way. Just grow up and give us a good answer for a change instead of treating people with contempt just because they're not on the 'inside'.

    You don't know Mark Cavendish from Adam. Have you read Boy Racer? If not I suggest you do.

    PMSL thats an authorative insight is it? ask his girlfriend she might not agree and shes had the err "inside track"

    I was under the impression this was a cycling forum but it appears that a certain riders ex girlfriends opinion is relevant? Who gives a toss what happened between two consenting adults? Obviously you have never broken off a relationship with a woman then? Perhaps you always the one dumped? :wink:
    Couples break up for all sorts of reasons and frankly it is no-ones business.
    The point I was making is that the book is hardly a great and authorative insight into the man. The girlfriend bit is an example how he spouted love for her yet no sooner is it out than his careers taking over and he moves on. Not surprising really but the book is not and authorative guide to the man.
    The book was written before a difficult and hugely successful season and when cav the sprinter was developing as a person and as a cyclist at a huge rate of knots. Reasonable comment for a cycling forum I would have thought…………… and the threads on podium girls and girls in lycra are good too. I also like the sister of Basso

    Now if we can leave the Dear Deirdre behind for just a moment the bloke is ******* good bike rider and he can do want he likes with own free time.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Carl_P wrote:
    pedro118118 wrote:
    I think there's more to Farrar than GT stage-race sprinter - he has the capacity to do well in some of the high-profile Classics.

    Cav is a true specialist - like a field-goal kicker in Amercian Football, rolled out to work his magic when required, which does come with incredible pressure................and, no doubt, relief.

    Farrar will win his fair share of races. Just not the ones Cav is in :wink:


    So long as they flat stages of a race Cavendish can be arsed with. Farrar will come closer to winning MSR than Cav this year I think.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • darren H
    darren H Posts: 122
    Nothing wrong with how cav conducts himself. Good god he must be interviewed a hundred times a week.

    Im simply glad im here to see his sprints . Awesome.

    Dont knock him. When he has finished in this sport he will be one of the greats of all time
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    Chav needs performance enhancing drugs - but in this case his interview performance.

    I thought the Ricco's beatch thing was quite funny and bold, but he must remember who else's brother is in jail and is possibly someone's beatch, so I bet his mom didn't find it that funny.
    When a cyclist has a disagreement with a car; it's not who's right, it's who's left.
  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    Timoid. wrote:
    Carl_P wrote:
    pedro118118 wrote:
    I think there's more to Farrar than GT stage-race sprinter - he has the capacity to do well in some of the high-profile Classics.

    Cav is a true specialist - like a field-goal kicker in Amercian Football, rolled out to work his magic when required, which does come with incredible pressure................and, no doubt, relief.

    Farrar will win his fair share of races. Just not the ones Cav is in :wink:


    So long as they flat stages of a race Cavendish can be arsed with. Farrar will come closer to winning MSR than Cav this year I think.

    When in peak shape, Cav is still the man, when it's flat and his team can maintain control. That said, when the terrain gets tough, it's not pretty - I think he lasted about 15km in 'support' of Eisel at Gent-W last year?! Nothing wrong with horses for courses mind...
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Blimey

    Cavendish is paid less than Cunego (via Inner Ring)
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    That's surprising, if true.

    I'm mostly surprised at Sideshow Bob, he's got one of the most marketable assets in the sport in his team and yet he seems hell bent on losing him.
  • dougzz
    dougzz Posts: 1,833
    iainf72 wrote:
    Blimey

    Cavendish is paid less than Cunego (via Inner Ring)

    Is this a Michael Jordan situation? MJ used to take a lower salary than he could of commanded so that there was more in the pot for the supporting cast. He made so much from sponsorship that the salary was a small part of his income. Does Cav make enough from outside deals that he'll take a lower salary to leave enough for that train. I don't know enough about the financial side of cycling to know if there's enough in outside sponsorship to allow that attitude.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Cavendish has been moaning about how he's not paid enough. Remember at the Commonwealth games he had a real rant about it.

    The reality is Cuddly Bob didn't get to be a billionaire by overpaying for something. If Cavendish / Fran Millar signed a duff contract, that's their fault. But as Andy says, Cuddly Bob risks Cavendish fleeing to another team.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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