I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
Why? Cycling caused my asthma and I'm sure it's the same for many others.
I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
I suspect not too many people would even be aware of this or even give a monkeys either way if they were.
Is this becuase we are gulping down exhaust fumes?
Li et al, 2003 say 'possibly'
There is growing epidemiological evidence that in- creased cardiorespiratory morbidity and mortality follow a sudden surge in ambient PM levels [36,37]. The acute respiratory events include acute asthma exacerbations, as reflected by increased symptom score as well as increased use of medication and hospitalization [38,39]. In addition to these acute effects, there is evidence that DEP act as an adjuvant for allergic sensitization to common environmental allergens
Other study also shows athletes significantly overmedicate with inhalers.
I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
Why? Cycling caused my asthma and I'm sure it's the same for many others.
Calvjones - I'd be interested to see the figures for the proportion of the pro peleton who have TUE certificates for ventolin.
Without wishing to take away from anyones hard work it does make me wonder how many of them are taking the micky with ventolin. The fitter I get and the more I ride the less I need my inhaler and the higher I blow on the peak flow meter. Also if the NHS can successfully manage my asthma symptoms why can't the team doctors? I'm not sure I buy into the theory that they inhale more air/allergens than me either.
Hibbs - do you mean exercise triggers your asthma, you first became aware of your asthma whilst cycling or that cycling definatively caused your asthma? The general view fom my asthma clinic is that aerobic exercise is good for people with asthma and is actively encouraged.
Is this becuase we are gulping down exhaust fumes?
Was just asking myself this. Had asthma since childhood, if anything cycling along with swimming has helped my condition no end. To the point that I sometimes go out on a long ride without my inhaler. Always good seeing or hearing of professional sportsmen/women with asthma, as it shows children who have it that they can still take part in sports and get to the top. Were not many role models around when I was a kid, so show off them inhalers with pride!!
I'm not sure the amount of salbutamol you get from a couple of puffs would be enough to have much of an effect on a rider (from a PED point of view). My understanding was that Pettachi was found to have levels of salbutamol much higher than you'd be able to get from pufing on an inhaler.
As for having asthma under control... I've had asthma for about 30 years (since before I was at school!), I can't remember the last time I had to take my inhaler while out cycling or running, doesn't meant to say I stop carrying my inhaler. I asked whether I should stop carrying mine at my last asthma clinic appointment, the nurse advised me never to not carry my inhaler even though it's under control.
I'm probably one of the fittest people who visits my Dr's surgery (rarely), yet I score shockingly bad on the peak flow! My Dad (also an asthmatic) failed a fitness test at Royal Mail years back based in his peak flow yet had only just completed a marathon in 3hrs dead (he proved this and he was offered the job)
I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
Why? Cycling caused my asthma and I'm sure it's the same for many others.
Calvjones - I'd be interested to see the figures for the proportion of the pro peloton who have TUE certificates for ventolin.
Without wishing to take away from anyones hard work it does make me wonder how many of them are taking the micky with ventolin. The fitter I get and the more I ride the less I need my inhaler and the higher I blow on the peak flow meter. Also if the NHS can successfully manage my asthma symptoms why can't the team doctors? I'm not sure I buy into the theory that they inhale more air/allergens than me either.
Hibbs - do you mean exercise triggers your asthma, you first became aware of your asthma whilst cycling or that cycling definatively caused your asthma? The general view fom my asthma clinic is that aerobic exercise is good for people with asthma and is actively encouraged.
No, cycling definitively caused my asthma. Well, as definitive as it can be from a doctor I suppose. That was his belief and he said there was no other identifiable trigger.
I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
Why? Cycling caused my asthma and I'm sure it's the same for many others.
Calvjones - I'd be interested to see the figures for the proportion of the pro peloton who have TUE certificates for ventolin.
Without wishing to take away from anyones hard work it does make me wonder how many of them are taking the micky with ventolin. The fitter I get and the more I ride the less I need my inhaler and the higher I blow on the peak flow meter. Also if the NHS can successfully manage my asthma symptoms why can't the team doctors? I'm not sure I buy into the theory that they inhale more air/allergens than me either.
Hibbs - do you mean exercise triggers your asthma, you first became aware of your asthma whilst cycling or that cycling definatively caused your asthma? The general view fom my asthma clinic is that aerobic exercise is good for people with asthma and is actively encouraged.
No, cycling definitively caused my asthma. Well, as definitive as it can be from a doctor I suppose. That was his belief and he said there was no other identifiable trigger.
Are you sure you're not confusing cycling being the trigger for the asthma symptoms as opposed to cycling actually giving you asthma? I have asthma (very mild fortunately apart from a single severe attack when I was 21) and the trigger for me is going from cold-hot. That doesn't mean though that going from cold-hot environments gave me asthma.
I wonder if the proportion of pro cyclists with inhalers has to drop somewhere near the population average before the sport is taken properly seriously?
Why? Cycling caused my asthma and I'm sure it's the same for many others.
Calvjones - I'd be interested to see the figures for the proportion of the pro peloton who have TUE certificates for ventolin.
Without wishing to take away from anyones hard work it does make me wonder how many of them are taking the micky with ventolin. The fitter I get and the more I ride the less I need my inhaler and the higher I blow on the peak flow meter. Also if the NHS can successfully manage my asthma symptoms why can't the team doctors? I'm not sure I buy into the theory that they inhale more air/allergens than me either.
Hibbs - do you mean exercise triggers your asthma, you first became aware of your asthma whilst cycling or that cycling definatively caused your asthma? The general view fom my asthma clinic is that aerobic exercise is good for people with asthma and is actively encouraged.
No, cycling definitively caused my asthma. Well, as definitive as it can be from a doctor I suppose. That was his belief and he said there was no other identifiable trigger.
Are you sure you're not confusing cycling being the trigger for the asthma symptoms as opposed to cycling actually giving you asthma? I have asthma (very mild fortunately apart from a single severe attack when I was 21) and the trigger for me is going from cold-hot. That doesn't mean though that going from cold-hot environments gave me asthma.
Yes, that's what my doctor told me. I didn't have asthma. I then developed asthma. The Dr reckons it was because of the amount of cycling that I did. (I did A LOT at that time as a teenager.)
Yes, that's what my doctor told me. I didn't have asthma. I then developed asthma. The Dr reckons it was because of the amount of cycling that I did. (I did A LOT at that time as a teenager.)
I guess that's one GPs opinion. He really should be practising evidence-based medicine and not just sprouting stuff like this cos he's got a hunch.
I always carry mine with me, cold air does make it harder to breathe but when I last saw the asthma nurse she was a bit confused that I could push the peak flow meter to the end and when I said yeah I cycle quite a lot you could see a light go on in her head and she said "ahh that's why, keep it up it's helps a lot"
The only time I need my releiver is when I am ill with a chest infection mainly in the winter, I am on seretide twice a day though which is a steriod and a long term bronchio dialator in one.
I still out pace a few people even though I have asthma, for the most part I don't even think about it.
I developed mine after a severe chest infection that meant I ended up in casualty with 25% lung function left and quite ill.
Yes, that's what my doctor told me. I didn't have asthma. I then developed asthma. The Dr reckons it was because of the amount of cycling that I did. (I did A LOT at that time as a teenager.)
I guess that's one GPs opinion. He really should be practising evidence-based medicine and not just sprouting stuff like this cos he's got a hunch.
I caught asthma off a dog! I'd never had asthma then I stayed in a house with a dog and now I've got asthma. ;-)
I think I remember reading somewhere that ventolin wasn't particularly helpful unless you actually had asthma. Anyone know more about this? Did I dream it?
I think I remember reading somewhere that ventolin wasn't particularly helpful unless you actually had asthma. Anyone know more about this? Did I dream it?
It can only open up your airways in your lungs so much as there is a limit, depends if you have inflammation but if you have that would be asthma.
Maybe it just opens them up that little bit extra if you don't have asthma and it's just a bigger effect if you do have asthma.
I can't remeber who it was (English speaking rider) who said that he found out when he retired from bike racing that he had Asthma. This, so he reckons, was because he commonly used Steriods through his career which masked the condition.
The sign of an (steroid) inhaler is no bad thing. If he was on the high octane doping patches (Di Luca style) then there would be no need for the Ventolin.
Hmmm...
-Jerry
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
-Jacques Anquetil
Yes, that's what my doctor told me. I didn't have asthma. I then developed asthma. The Dr reckons it was because of the amount of cycling that I did. (I did A LOT at that time as a teenager.)
I guess that's one GPs opinion. He really should be practising evidence-based medicine and not just sprouting stuff like this cos he's got a hunch.
I caught asthma off a dog! I'd never had asthma then I stayed in a house with a dog and now I've got asthma. ;-)
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Why? Cycling caused my asthma and I'm sure it's the same for many others.
Is this becuase we are gulping down exhaust fumes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise-induced_asthma
I suspect not too many people would even be aware of this or even give a monkeys either way if they were.
Odd.
Petacchi got caught...
Li et al, 2003 say 'possibly'
There is growing epidemiological evidence that in- creased cardiorespiratory morbidity and mortality follow a sudden surge in ambient PM levels [36,37]. The acute respiratory events include acute asthma exacerbations, as reflected by increased symptom score as well as increased use of medication and hospitalization [38,39]. In addition to these acute effects, there is evidence that DEP act as an adjuvant for allergic sensitization to common environmental allergens
Other study also shows athletes significantly overmedicate with inhalers.
Strava is not Zen.
Calvjones - I'd be interested to see the figures for the proportion of the pro peleton who have TUE certificates for ventolin.
Without wishing to take away from anyones hard work it does make me wonder how many of them are taking the micky with ventolin. The fitter I get and the more I ride the less I need my inhaler and the higher I blow on the peak flow meter. Also if the NHS can successfully manage my asthma symptoms why can't the team doctors? I'm not sure I buy into the theory that they inhale more air/allergens than me either.
Hibbs - do you mean exercise triggers your asthma, you first became aware of your asthma whilst cycling or that cycling definatively caused your asthma? The general view fom my asthma clinic is that aerobic exercise is good for people with asthma and is actively encouraged.
Was just asking myself this. Had asthma since childhood, if anything cycling along with swimming has helped my condition no end. To the point that I sometimes go out on a long ride without my inhaler. Always good seeing or hearing of professional sportsmen/women with asthma, as it shows children who have it that they can still take part in sports and get to the top. Were not many role models around when I was a kid, so show off them inhalers with pride!!
I thought it was more just gulping large volumes of air for long periods of time - especially cold air.
Time for a study with separate samples of Classics and GT riders methinks.
Strava is not Zen.
Ah, my favourite distinction...
As for having asthma under control... I've had asthma for about 30 years (since before I was at school!), I can't remember the last time I had to take my inhaler while out cycling or running, doesn't meant to say I stop carrying my inhaler. I asked whether I should stop carrying mine at my last asthma clinic appointment, the nurse advised me never to not carry my inhaler even though it's under control.
I'm probably one of the fittest people who visits my Dr's surgery (rarely), yet I score shockingly bad on the peak flow! My Dad (also an asthmatic) failed a fitness test at Royal Mail years back based in his peak flow yet had only just completed a marathon in 3hrs dead (he proved this and he was offered the job)
No, cycling definitively caused my asthma. Well, as definitive as it can be from a doctor I suppose. That was his belief and he said there was no other identifiable trigger.
Raced in a stage race my end last year. Some pretty high standard riders taking huge gulps before climbs...
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Are you sure you're not confusing cycling being the trigger for the asthma symptoms as opposed to cycling actually giving you asthma? I have asthma (very mild fortunately apart from a single severe attack when I was 21) and the trigger for me is going from cold-hot. That doesn't mean though that going from cold-hot environments gave me asthma.
Yes, that's what my doctor told me. I didn't have asthma. I then developed asthma. The Dr reckons it was because of the amount of cycling that I did. (I did A LOT at that time as a teenager.)
I guess that's one GPs opinion. He really should be practising evidence-based medicine and not just sprouting stuff like this cos he's got a hunch.
The only time I need my releiver is when I am ill with a chest infection mainly in the winter, I am on seretide twice a day though which is a steriod and a long term bronchio dialator in one.
I still out pace a few people even though I have asthma, for the most part I don't even think about it.
I developed mine after a severe chest infection that meant I ended up in casualty with 25% lung function left and quite ill.
I caught asthma off a dog! I'd never had asthma then I stayed in a house with a dog and now I've got asthma. ;-)
It can only open up your airways in your lungs so much as there is a limit, depends if you have inflammation but if you have that would be asthma.
Maybe it just opens them up that little bit extra if you don't have asthma and it's just a bigger effect if you do have asthma.
That's not an inhaler... that's a periscope for Mini-Mr-Sutton.
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I'll get my coat...
I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.
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The sign of an (steroid) inhaler is no bad thing. If he was on the high octane doping patches (Di Luca style) then there would be no need for the Ventolin.
Hmmm...
-Jerry
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
-Jacques Anquetil
Didnt know asthma was an STD