What is it about horse riders?

Tom Butcher

I've always wondered what he best shout is when approaching a horse and rider from behind. Bike approaching ? on your right ? Perhaps Heil Hitler ?

bails87

MattC59 wrote:

bails87 wrote:

MattC59 wrote:

As an aside, and not really related to horses and riders on the roads, but there was a somewhat alarming court case several years ago (at least 12, as I was dating my first wife !).
An elderly couple rounded a corner to be confronted by a very spooked horse which had escaped from it's field. The car hit the horse and to cut a long story short the couple were killed and the horse had to be put down.

What if they'd come round the corner to find a broken down car, or a crash that had just happened, or pedestrians walking in the road, or a cyclist or a fallen tree or.....

You shouldn't be driving in such a way that your stopping distance is more than the distance you can see.

Sorry, my mistake, I was trying to keep a rushed post short.
The car had stopped, but the horse reared up and put it's front legs through the windscreen, killing the passenger and in the ensuing struggle injuring the driver. The driver died as a result of his injuries. Apparently it was horrific, the horse broke both of it's front legs, couldn't get free and had to be put down before it could be removed.

Ah, well that's completely different then. If it actually happened as you said (any witnesses) then that's terrible, and I don't see how the horse owner could have succesfully sued the victims.

JD_76

Pross wrote:

There's some real guff spoken on this subject by a few on this topic - cleaning up after horses? Give me a break, maybe we should run around the countryside cleaning up fields from cows in case the view offends walkers? It is very different from cleaning up after a dog, as well as the fact that it isn't disease ridden how many times has anyone on here trodden is horse manure and unwittingly dragged it through their house? I haven't despite living in an area with lots of horses! It is generally so dry it doesn't even stick on a shoe.

I disagree, regardless of the levels of harmful bacteria its not a nice thing to see in the road outside your house or local shop etc…
I would have thought its common decency to clean up the mess your horse leaves behind on the roads that other people use.

Your comparison with cows in fields is no comparison as cows live in fields as do horses so you would expect to find their waste lying around there??

Tom Butcher

Personally I don't see the big deal about horse manure - it's not like dog **** - and I own dogs and have never owned a horse so I'm not speaking from personal bias. It's not really practical for horse owners to clean up after them - it is practical for dog owners as there tends to be bins for dog poo and you can't bag a couple of kilos of horse manure and stick it in your pocket.

People should cut horse riders some slack - they probably suffer more than us cyclists from increased traffic and development and they are just trying to pursue a hobby that they love - they must love it as having spoken to a few people with horses it costs a fortune.

Jez mon

JD_76 wrote:

Pross wrote:

There's some real guff spoken on this subject by a few on this topic - cleaning up after horses? Give me a break, maybe we should run around the countryside cleaning up fields from cows in case the view offends walkers? It is very different from cleaning up after a dog, as well as the fact that it isn't disease ridden how many times has anyone on here trodden is horse manure and unwittingly dragged it through their house? I haven't despite living in an area with lots of horses! It is generally so dry it doesn't even stick on a shoe.

I disagree, regardless of the levels of harmful bacteria its not a nice thing to see in the road outside your house or local shop etc…
I would have thought its common decency to clean up the mess your horse leaves behind on the roads that other people use.

Your comparison with cows in fields is no comparison as cows live in fields as do horses so you would expect to find their waste lying around there??

Ooooo its not nice to see! Seriously, mtfu!

Pross

JD_76 wrote:

Pross wrote:

There's some real guff spoken on this subject by a few on this topic - cleaning up after horses? Give me a break, maybe we should run around the countryside cleaning up fields from cows in case the view offends walkers? It is very different from cleaning up after a dog, as well as the fact that it isn't disease ridden how many times has anyone on here trodden is horse manure and unwittingly dragged it through their house? I haven't despite living in an area with lots of horses! It is generally so dry it doesn't even stick on a shoe.

I disagree, regardless of the levels of harmful bacteria its not a nice thing to see in the road outside your house or local shop etc…
I would have thought its common decency to clean up the mess your horse leaves behind on the roads that other people use.

Your comparison with cows in fields is no comparison as cows live in fields as do horses so you would expect to find their waste lying around there??

If you live in the country you expect to see natural products around, if you live in a large town or city it's not likely a horse will crap outside your house. Maybe we need to employ young kids to sweep the streets like in the good old days and sell it to gardeners.

I blame townies moving to the country then complaining about the sights, sounds and smells like those people who tried to get an injunction on the village church ringing its bell

JD_76

Pross wrote:

If you live in the country you expect to see natural products around, if you live in a large town or city it's not likely a horse will crap outside your house. Maybe we need to employ young kids to sweep the streets like in the good old days and sell it to gardeners.

I blame townies moving to the country then complaining about the sights, sounds and smells like those people who tried to get an injunction on the village church ringing its bell

Im a gamekeper and have lived and worked most of my life in the country, I dont have an issue with horses or the people who ride them, on the estate they hold pony club meetings and I sometimes go and help out, open gates etc...

I dont see why they get the right to poo in the road and leave it there for someone else to deal with.
Most horse owners ride their horses in the local vicinity to where they are kept, how hard would it be to nip back in the 4x4 to remove said poop?

Pross

JD_76 wrote:

Pross wrote:

If you live in the country you expect to see natural products around, if you live in a large town or city it's not likely a horse will crap outside your house. Maybe we need to employ young kids to sweep the streets like in the good old days and sell it to gardeners.

I blame townies moving to the country then complaining about the sights, sounds and smells like those people who tried to get an injunction on the village church ringing its bell

Im a gamekeper and have lived and worked most of my life in the country, I dont have an issue with horses or the people who ride them, on the estate they hold pony club meetings and I sometimes go and help out, open gates etc...

I dont see why they get the right to poo in the road and leave it there for someone else to deal with.
Most horse owners ride their horses in the local vicinity to where they are kept, how hard would it be to nip back in the 4x4 to remove said poop?

In my experience it gets flattened within a few minutes so it wouldn't be easy and driving around in a 4x4 chucking out C)2 emissions would be worse than a bit of harmless horse manure being left to rot.

snailracer

Pross wrote:

JD_76 wrote:

Pross wrote:

If you live in the country you expect to see natural products around, if you live in a large town or city it's not likely a horse will crap outside your house. Maybe we need to employ young kids to sweep the streets like in the good old days and sell it to gardeners.

I blame townies moving to the country then complaining about the sights, sounds and smells like those people who tried to get an injunction on the village church ringing its bell

Im a gamekeper and have lived and worked most of my life in the country, I dont have an issue with horses or the people who ride them, on the estate they hold pony club meetings and I sometimes go and help out, open gates etc...

I dont see why they get the right to poo in the road and leave it there for someone else to deal with.
Most horse owners ride their horses in the local vicinity to where they are kept, how hard would it be to nip back in the 4x4 to remove said poop?

In my experience it gets flattened within a few minutes so it wouldn't be easy and driving around in a 4x4 chucking out C)2 emissions would be worse than a bit of harmless horse manure being left to rot.

Do cars collect their own exhaust emissions? Surely they're not allowed to just blow it out into the air I breathe! :P

dilemna

Pross wrote:

JD_76 wrote:

Pross wrote:

There's some real guff spoken on this subject by a few on this topic - cleaning up after horses? Give me a break, maybe we should run around the countryside cleaning up fields from cows in case the view offends walkers? It is very different from cleaning up after a dog, as well as the fact that it isn't disease ridden how many times has anyone on here trodden is horse manure and unwittingly dragged it through their house? I haven't despite living in an area with lots of horses! It is generally so dry it doesn't even stick on a shoe.

I disagree, regardless of the levels of harmful bacteria its not a nice thing to see in the road outside your house or local shop etc…
I would have thought its common decency to clean up the mess your horse leaves behind on the roads that other people use.

Your comparison with cows in fields is no comparison as cows live in fields as do horses so you would expect to find their waste lying around there??

If you live in the country you expect to see natural products around, if you live in a large town or city it's not likely a horse will crap outside your house. Maybe we need to employ young kids to sweep the streets like in the good old days and sell it to gardeners.

I blame townies moving to the country then complaining about the sights, sounds and smells like those people who tried to get an injunction on the village church ringing its bell

There can be considerable amounts of 'orse poop on the roads in central London when the Household Cavalry have been along the road or police 'orses have been spooked by rioting students.

Anyway joking aside horse riders aren't a problem on the roads, it is inconsiderate selfish c**ts in vehicles who drive too fast and close that spook horses. I bet if you were riding an 'orse, you would sh1t yourself if it bolted because some selfish knuckle dragging tosser in a car came speeding toward you and yes even used the car horn to try to force you off the road - I have seen and heard this too. Surely as cyclists we can recognise that horse riders experience the same dangers that we often experience on the roads.

Horse riders are just like cyclists they like to travel with something between their legs .

If you were careless enough to crash into an 'orse and rider the ensuing melange of jodhpurs, boots, whips and Lycra could be interesting ..........

dilemna

An 'orse walks into a pub and orders a pint. The barman says "Why the long face?"

chunkytfg

dilemna wrote:

An 'orse walks into a pub and orders a pint. The barman says "Why the long face?"

An 'orse walks into a pub and orders a pint. The barman says ''Feck me a talkin 'orse!'

porker33

On a regular ride into the country, I often pass 4-5 stables and usually other groups of horses out on the road.

Today was no different, I do object to attractive young women in riding jodhpurs waving and exchanging pleasantries while i am trying to maintain a decent cadence, it really does affect my heart monitor data readings.

rake

jellybellywmb wrote:

I dont mind horses its some of the stuck up idiots that ride them i dont like.
Just recently at the top of a long grind of a hill i came across two horses on a wide grass verge, I moved to the centre of the road and passed very slowly only for a stuck up cow to say " dont you know your meant to announce your presence when approaching a horse from the rear" Had I not been sruggling to breath let alone produce a reply i would have taken time out to put her right!!

Having said that it probably is again the minority like in any sport, most give a cheery wave and thanks you.

i agree. some (not all) really are stuck up and think themselves superior to you sat high above you. before anyone says its in my mind, i grew up in a 2 horse owning family, so its not an inferiority complex. my view is if its not fit to be steady on the road the rider should think carefully about where they ride. ill slow down and pass wide, like i often dont get on the bike, but other than that its their problem if it spookes easily, not mine. Also ringing a bell or shouting out could startle it as well.