Hit & run illegal immigrant

Frank the tank
Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
edited December 2010 in The bottom bracket
Killed a 12year old girl whilst driving while banned and has been allowed to stay in GB 'cos he has two children and his human rights may be infringed if he is deported bak to Iraq.

Words fail me.
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  • berliner
    berliner Posts: 340
    He's not with the women who bore the kids. Nor does he pay for them - you do.
    Think of him when you're struggling on a hill. You'll get a massive boost of adrenaline.
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    Fine. Let him stay.

    But tell him he has to clear all the snow off the roads in return. That'll shift him :twisted:
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • Killed a 12year old girl whilst driving while banned and has been allowed to stay in GB 'cos he has two children and his human rights may be infringed if he is deported bak to Iraq.

    Words fail me.

    Did he get a conviction?
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  • Time to get out of this s***hole country ! Why don't we just turn the country over to illegal immigrants and we'll go and live in the nice warm country near the oil ?
  • Disappointed - thought this was the Beebs replacement show for Hole in the Wall.
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  • just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better
  • Killed a 12year old girl whilst driving while banned and has been allowed to stay in GB 'cos he has two children and his human rights may be infringed if he is deported bak to Iraq.

    Words fail me.

    Did he get a conviction?

    From the Beeb:

    Iraqi Kurd Aso Mohammed Ibrahim was jailed for four months after knocking down Amy Houston in Blackburn in 2003

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-12007100

    :evil:
  • zanes
    zanes Posts: 563
    Killed a 12year old girl whilst driving while banned and has been allowed to stay in GB 'cos he has two children and his human rights may be infringed if he is deported bak to Iraq.

    Words fail me.

    Did he get a conviction?

    BBC reports;

    "The 33-year-old, who did not hold a driving licence, was jailed for four months in April 2009 for driving while disqualified and failing to stop after an accident."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-la ... e-12007100

    Does not mention an appeal.
  • Does it matter in the slightest whether or not he was born in this country? Do you think a UK citizen should be punished differently?
  • Does it matter in the slightest whether or not he was born in this country? Do you think a UK citizen should be punished differently?

    It's not the punishment, which is too lenient, it's the fact he was not deported. Come to Britain kill people and get to stay !
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better

    Yeeeh, hoo wants 'uman farkin' rights eh?

    Blarddy smelly foreigners with the p!ss food 'n' dirty sh!tters - lookin' afta people's right to live? Farck off.

    Bet they neva dun a good days work eva in their farkin' lives. So stoopid they can't even speak blardy english, pricks.

    :roll:
  • he has got to go - why should the UK offer him any refuge? He has a total disregard for the welfare of others - kick him out - any normal country would - the UK is PC crazy
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    The two things are separate as far as I can see. The fact that he killed someone and served time in jail doesn't negate the fact that his life might be at risk if he's sent back to Iraq.

    It's distasteful, sure, but the law is the law. You can't pick and choose how you apply it just because think someone is scum.
  • Why is his life in danger if he goes back to Iraq ? Has he been a criminal over there too ? Most of these so called "Asylum seekers" are running from people aho they've committed crimes against and don't want to face the consequences. So they come here forth soft justice system and the free money.
  • just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better

    Yeeeh, hoo wants 'uman farkin' rights eh?

    Blarddy smelly foreigners with the p!ss food 'n' dirty sh!tters - lookin' afta people's right to live? Farck off.

    Bet they neva dun a good days work eva in their farkin' lives. So stoopid they can't even speak blardy english, pricks.

    :roll:

    you couldnt be further from my point if you tried
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better

    Yeeeh, hoo wants 'uman farkin' rights eh?

    Blarddy smelly foreigners with the p!ss food 'n' dirty sh!tters - lookin' afta people's right to live? Farck off.

    Bet they neva dun a good days work eva in their farkin' lives. So stoopid they can't even speak blardy english, pricks.

    :roll:

    you couldnt be further from my point if you tried

    I'll try.
    just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better

    Err, no.
  • afx237vi wrote:
    The two things are separate as far as I can see. The fact that he killed someone and served time in jail doesn't negate the fact that his life might be at risk if he's sent back to Iraq.

    It's distasteful, sure, but the law is the law. You can't pick and choose how you apply it just because think someone is scum.

    The law can be an ass, but this type of case signals a worrying precedent. If one arrives illegally in the UK, your first course of action must be to impregnate (or be impregnated by) a UK Citizen. After that, everything else is pretty much carte blanche.
  • MichaelW
    MichaelW Posts: 2,164
    Does it matter that the driver was not a UK citizen?
    In many parts of the world, driving skills are rudimentary, safety in mainly in the hands of the relevant sky fairy/deity/statuette and driving exams test your ability to pass a brown envelope to local official. These driving licences are quite valid in the UK.
    In parts of the country there are many such drivers on the road.

    One can only hope that they don't drive whilst trying to impregnate one of the locals.
  • just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better

    Yeeeh, hoo wants 'uman farkin' rights eh?

    Blarddy smelly foreigners with the p!ss food 'n' dirty sh!tters - lookin' afta people's right to live? Farck off.

    Bet they neva dun a good days work eva in their farkin' lives. So stoopid they can't even speak blardy english, pricks.

    :roll:

    you couldnt be further from my point if you tried

    I'll try.
    just a disgusting, disgusting verdict

    the sooner we can leave the EU and abolish the abuse that the human rights law has brought the better

    Err, no.

    where were my racist comments about foriengers ? .. there arent any, that was you
    where did I say people dont deserve humans right ? .... I didnt, that was you

    I was making a comment about the commonly used 'abuse' of this law, which we are held accountable to upheld through our legal links to Europe. If this case doesnt describe a perfect example of how the undeserving and law breaking scum (irrelevant of race, colour or nationailty) abuse this law to thier own advantage then I dont know what is.

    You were being flippant and 'stoopid' about it.
  • I'm not really bothered whether he was an illegal immigrant or a bloody martian!

    Four months for killing someone when already convicted for driving offences is an absolute fooking joke.

    The scum should be on a manslaughter charge
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  • zanes
    zanes Posts: 563
    I'm not really bothered whether he was an illegal immigrant or a bloody martian!

    Four months for killing someone when already convicted for driving offences is an absolute fooking joke.

    +1.

    Slightly OT, the BBC reporting appears to suggest he wasn't actually an immigrant (illegal or otherwise); rather an asylum seeker.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    I'm not really bothered whether he was an illegal immigrant or a bloody martian!

    Four months for killing someone when already convicted for driving offences is an absolute fooking joke.

    The scum should be on a manslaughter charge

    +1,000,000
  • I heard the father of the deceased girl speaking on the radio on the way home tonight, there is a bit more to it than what a few on here have said.
    He'd already had a deportation order served on him before he had a 'wife' (it is not a legally recognised marriage apparently) and children. He has convictions for burglary and drug dealing and quite plainly does not give a rats a*** for the laws of the land. Let's face it, anyone making a case for him to stay is going to be making a fool out of themselves.
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    edited December 2010
    He is of no use to this country and should be returned to where he came.

    Biggest injustice was he only got 4 months for killing a child.

    According to the UK border Agency he has nothing to do with the 2 children he fathered.

    Also has convictions for burglary and drug dealing.

    This country is bloody to soft.
  • The tribunal heard details of Ibrahim's criminal convictions, including driving while disqualified and without insurance, possession of cannabis and cautions for criminal damage and burglary and theft.

    In 2006 - three years after the fatal crash - he was again convicted of driving whilst disqualified and without insurance.

    In 2009 he was also convicted of harassment, damage to property and theft, the tribunal heard.

    How can anyone defend him ?, even a liberal would have trouble with this !
  • rf6
    rf6 Posts: 323
    dreamlx10 wrote:
    The tribunal heard details of Ibrahim's criminal convictions, including driving while disqualified and without insurance, possession of cannabis and cautions for criminal damage and burglary and theft.

    In 2006 - three years after the fatal crash - he was again convicted of driving whilst disqualified and without insurance.

    In 2009 he was also convicted of harassment, damage to property and theft, the tribunal heard.

    How can anyone defend him ?, even a liberal would have trouble with this !

    I don't think there's any shortage of lawyers waiting to scoop up the cash.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    dreamlx10 wrote:
    The tribunal heard details of Ibrahim's criminal convictions, including driving while disqualified and without insurance, possession of cannabis and cautions for criminal damage and burglary and theft.

    In 2006 - three years after the fatal crash - he was again convicted of driving whilst disqualified and without insurance.

    In 2009 he was also convicted of harassment, damage to property and theft, the tribunal heard.

    How can anyone defend him ?, even a liberal would have trouble with this !

    It's not about defending him.

    It's about the idea that where he's come from even matters.
  • Weejie54
    Weejie54 Posts: 750
    edited December 2010
    I was making a comment about the commonly used 'abuse' of this law, which we are held accountable to upheld through our legal links to Europe. If this case doesnt describe a perfect example of how the undeserving and law breaking scum (irrelevant of race, colour or nationailty) abuse this law to thier own advantage then I dont know what is.

    What a lot of tosh. The Human Rights Act is the European Convention in domestic form. It has nothing to do with the EU. The Council of Europe is a completely different concept and has nothing to do with the "Common Market".
    Do your homework for goodness sake.

    http://www.coe.int/aboutCoe/default.asp
  • ellieb
    ellieb Posts: 436
    It's not about defending him.

    It's about the idea that where he's come from even matters.
    It rather does when it is a question of whether he should be deported. This is someone who is asking for asylum. Are you saying that his behaviour should have no bearing on whether that is granted? :roll:
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ellieb wrote:
    It's not about defending him.

    It's about the idea that where he's come from even matters.
    It rather does when it is a question of whether he should be deported. This is someone who is asking for asylum. Are you saying that his behaviour should have no bearing on whether that is granted? :roll:

    Yeah?

    The rules for asylum are based around, as far as I am aware, the risk to them if they go back, i.e. if they go back they get killed, in which case, you're saving a life.

    The law's a bitch but there isn't a fairer way of doing it.