Chav Scum

AndyF16

Did my regular Sunday lunchtime thing of riding home from wherever my kids have played rugby, today being a nice unhurried 30 miler from Biggleswade

I'd got within half a mile of home, and with not even a hint of altercation or anything, 3 or 4 local intelligensia in a knackered old Micra thought it a hoot to throw water (well I think so, mineral water bottle and no nasty aftersmell) at me when passing :roll:

Pulled up and thought bollocks, even though no harm done, I'll ring the fuzz with their reg number and make a complaint - civilian operator was a bit disinterested IMO but said the reg matched the description on the PNC and that they'd let me know what happened, let's see eh?......

sungod

wouldn't hold my breathe on the police doing anything, even if they could be bothered to investigate it'd just be your word vs. scum

best thing is to let it go

scum strive for recognition by abusing others, but they know it's only the recognition of their worthless peers, so they remain unsatisfied, knowing they are of no value to humanity, that no one cares

don't waste a moment's thought on them, they'll waste their lives and die, they won't be missed

Bobbinogs

Yepp, blinking annoying but it could be worse:

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12724704

pneumatic

This happened to a mate of mine out on his Sunday ride, only they sprayed de-icer or something chemical like that out of a pressurised can. He got the reg, reported it to the local police and they payed the vehicle owner a visit, got him to identify the passenger who did it and then paid him a visit too.

Not sure they press charges in cases like this, but having the police turn up at the family home one evening probably spoils the punchline somewhat for the perpetrators. At least I hope so, anyway.

jame58rown

Exact same thing happened to me, I gave them a two fingered salute, but didn't get there reg . They're not worth a second thought tbh. Though If they had been going slower I'd have tried to throw the bottle back.

Theomerchant

That is properly crap!, had a similar thing happen to me, Was on the warm down of a TT training ride about 2-3 miles from home. I was riding on a dual carriage way when I saw about 6 chav scum types hanging around in the road up ahead, my roady sense started tingling knowing they were going to try something so I prepared for the worst, as I got closer one of the said chavs started to run in my direction forcing me to move into the middle of the road (luckily it was a quiet time of day), so as the chav scum got within 2-3 feet of me...what I had prepared earlier when I saw the group was a mouthful of post time trail flem in my mouth and as the scum lunged for me I surprised him with the said contents in my mouth on to the chavs face, as you can expect the chav was extremely shocked and as I swiftly sprinted off still with my pride and joy he was left with a face full of...well a face full of a good lesson!

now for my disclaimer; I do not agree with spitting on people as I think it is absolutely disgusting and tbh I was a bit ashamed of myself for doing so but in an almost exactly same situation about 2 years earlier I had my pride and joy robbed off of me and received a pretty severe beating, so this time round I saw it as a form of revenge and wasn't willing to let the same thing happen again.

prevention is the best form of defence!

AndyF16

pneumatic wrote:

Not sure they press charges in cases like this, but having the police turn up at the family home one evening probably spoils the punchline somewhat for the perpetrators. At least I hope so, anyway.

Bang on my thoughts Pneumatic. I wasn't even particularly annoyed at the time tbh, just thought it public spirited to report it, in as much it might make the silly tw@s think twice next time, it could have been someone less confident and caused them to have an off or worse

Having said that, if I do spot H496CKN around it'll be missing one mirror, or maybe two if unoccupied

crimsondynamo

Theomerchant, or Rijkaard as you should henceforth be known, I full agree with your disgust of spitting on people, but that is precisely, precisley why it is such an appropriate response/preemptive strike against scum. That lad will have had the pis$ taken out of him mercilessly by his mates for a long time afterwards.

Theomerchant

crimsondynamo wrote:

Theomerchant, or Rijkaard as you should henceforth be known, I full agree with your disgust of spitting on people, but that is precisely, precisley why it is such an appropriate response/preemptive strike against scum. That lad will have had the pis$ taken out of him mercilessly by his mates for a long time afterwards.

Thanks for the reassurance! and LOL at the Frank Rijaard alias!

Theomerchant

oh and I think all cycles should be fitted with antichav/anti abusive driver missiles to deal with any future issues!

gregster10217

Theomerchant wrote:

oh and I think all cycles should be fitted with antichav/anti abusive driver missiles to deal with any future issues!

An AK47 would be a good start. :twisted: Just need to get a more light weight version to keep.......well, the weight down!!!!!

meanredspider

I was once abused by some chavs when I was out on a run. The funny part is that this is hardly a heavily populated part of the world and it took me 5 minutes to find out who drove a chavved out blue Punto.

The tragic part is that the kid crashed it 3 months later and they switched off life-support a day or two later...

Berk Bonebonce

Don't really know how to follow that last post, but ...

Reporting such matters to the police is no bad thing. 'A talking to to advice him (and they are all male) of his future conduct' is a line that more enlightened Police Officers will sometimes thankfully take.

allen.coulson

I cycle round the trails and narrow roads around my home in rural Essex and never get chav abuse but get the cars who drive behind me - driver not confident that they have the space to overtake - partly because they have big 4x4 and no driving skills. Sometimes on a Sunday - after they have been to some village pub for lunch they get dangeous and shout. I occasionally react with a couple of fingers and I have some secret knowledge that they don't know.

I used to be a paratrooper and I really want them to stop!

AndyF16

Well well, phone call at 07:25 :shock: to ask me to give a statement on a complaint of assault, which I've just done - PC who took statement was very down to earth and explained what the possible outcomes/punishments were, let's see what happens but I can't criticise them for lack of interest at least

Berk Bonebonce

Yes, chuck water over someone or spit at someone for that matter (and hit them) ... assault.

StillGoing

It's always worth reporting these incidents. Although it is your word against theirs, the more reports there are against an individual, the more likely the courts are to take your word against theirs even with no independant witnesses. If they have no previous and admit the ofence, they will receive a caution. Don't blame the police, the last government decided this was the correct way to deal with first time offenders.

BR 1979

meanredspider wrote:

I was once abused by some chavs when I was out on a run. The funny part is that this is hardly a heavily populated part of the world and it took me 5 minutes to find out who drove a chavved out blue Punto.

The tragic part is that the kid crashed it 3 months later and they switched off life-support a day or two later...

You haven't told us the tragic part yet!

Pross

allen.coulson wrote:

I cycle round the trails and narrow roads around my home in rural Essex and never get chav abuse but get the cars who drive behind me - driver not confident that they have the space to overtake - partly because they have big 4x4 and no driving skills. Sometimes on a Sunday - after they have been to some village pub for lunch they get dangeous and shout. I occasionally react with a couple of fingers and I have some secret knowledge that they don't know.

I used to be a paratrooper and I really want them to stop!

Does that protect you from a couple of tonnes of metal then cos lets face it the most likely reaction is that they will use their vehicle as a weapon. We all get fed up with drivers at times but the best thing to do is ignore it or, if you feel strongly enough, do the same as the OP and report them.

AndyF16

So, (They don't use the W anymore) PC Lovelyvoice just called to say they paid the driver of the car a visit earlier today, and just had the passenger into the station, full of remorse and holding his hands up to the deed

He has no 'previous' so will get caution, and was I happy with that? Said yes as I know you can't give him a kick in the plums these days, so case closed

meanredspider

BR 1979 wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

I was once abused by some chavs when I was out on a run. The funny part is that this is hardly a heavily populated part of the world and it took me 5 minutes to find out who drove a chavved out blue Punto.

The tragic part is that the kid crashed it 3 months later and they switched off life-support a day or two later...

You haven't told us the tragic part yet!

Well, it does get a bit more tragic. The turning tractor that he hit was being driven by his cousin.

Berk Bonebonce

And his Mom was driving the ambulance.

Mark Alexander

gregster10217 wrote:

Theomerchant wrote:

oh and I think all cycles should be fitted with antichav/anti abusive driver missiles to deal with any future issues!

An AK47 would be a good start. :twisted: Just need to get a more light weight version to keep.......well, the weight down!!!!!

Not worth the pixels this is written in and effort to do it. very cyclist has a story. Most have several. I think that some Grman guns are made out of plastic so weight saving's may be good. do AK-47's come with Titanium barrels? weight saving may b worth it for the climbs. My biggest concern would be the firing on the move and the recoil. Wouldn't that affect the finely tuned athletes which we all are?

meanredspider

Berk Bonebonce wrote:

And his Mom was driving the ambulance.

No - she arrived at the scene before it did. As much as some say his attitude "deserved" it, in human terms it is a tragedy.

CiB

BR 1979 wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

I was once abused by some chavs when I was out on a run. The funny part is that this is hardly a heavily populated part of the world and it took me 5 minutes to find out who drove a chavved out blue Punto.

The tragic part is that the kid crashed it 3 months later and they switched off life-support a day or two later...

You haven't told us the tragic part yet!

I know this is tongue in cheek, and I'm normally up for bad taste jokes & so on, but this was a bit over the mark. A lot of young lads act the tw@t in some form or another and then grow out of it to join the rest of the human race. This one didn't get the chance to, and it's made a bit worse by the circumstance of his death.

They might deserve a slap, some of these oiks, but I hope we're not at the point where we think someone deserves to die just for being a teenager & a bit of a prat.

Just saying, like...

dombo6

AndyF16 wrote:

So, (They don't use the W anymore) PC Lovelyvoice just called to say they paid the driver of the car a visit earlier today, and just had the passenger into the station, full of remorse and holding his hands up to the deed

He has no 'previous' so will get caution, and was I happy with that? Said yes as I know you can't give him a kick in the plums these days, so case closed

Whyever not? You are just as unlikely to be caught and cautioned by plod as the chavscum.

dombo6

allen.coulson wrote:

I used to be a paratrooper and I really want them to stop!

Always amazes me that the chavs never consider just who they might be trying to intimidate. A couple of our club run regulars are serving coppers, so could spoil their day in so many ways

turnerjohn

BR 1979 wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

I was once abused by some chavs when I was out on a run. The funny part is that this is hardly a heavily populated part of the world and it took me 5 minutes to find out who drove a chavved out blue Punto.

The tragic part is that the kid crashed it 3 months later and they switched off life-support a day or two later...

You haven't told us the tragic part yet!

+1... wrong but got to agree with BR !

BigJimmyB

So you agree that the penalty for chucking something at cyclist=death by horrifc RTA...

Why not move to Sudan and experience the delight of women being flogged for wearing trouser under their Burkhas - sounds right up your street.

dombo6

Nicely twisted logic BigJimmyB.
Chucking something at a cyclist could equally have resulted in the cyclist's death by RTA. I have been startled by chavs chucking stuff at me and could easily have swerved under a following vehicle.
I wouldn't necessarily wish death by RTA on the perpetrator, but don't expect me to laying any bunches of flowers where the little f***er met his end.

BigJimmyB

It's not twisted Dombo6 - the death of that person was tragic and to see it any other way, indeed to see it as 'OK' because of the offence against the cyclist is ludicrous.

In no way am I condoning any of the actions described in this thread against cyclists and have been victim to some myself, but to suggest that death is a fair penalty is just daft.