Amazon defends selling of Paedophile Guide
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As if people should boycott Amazon though, if I find something on Amazon I want cheaper than everywhere else I'm not going to think about this book and then say f**k them I'll take my custom elsewhere am I?0
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Mr Hub,
You are, without doubt, the dumbest person I've seen post on the internet.
Please think what you've just written and try to realise why it makes you look like a complete turd.
Regardless of whether you agree with the publication of the book, it seems you'd prefer to save 79p than 'do the right thing'.
Your morals, like your lunch, are cheaply bought.0 -
I don't agree with the publication of the book, it's disgusting, but I do agree that you're a proper numpty and that I'm not going to stop buying from Amazon because frankly I have more important things to do than worry about a single absurd book.0
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Putting aside for one moment the facts that Amazon clearly have no morals, scruples, commonsense etc, etc, how on earth can such a revolting book even be legal? FFS!!! Just when you think nothing can shock you anymore, some lowlife scum finds a way to do it...........The problem is we are not eating food anymore, we are eating food-like products.0
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Clearly a huge error of judgement on Amazon's part. No doubt at some point today they will announce that they will be removing the book from sale and that will be the end of it.
People like me will continue to use Amazon because frankly it's great, and no doubt a few people who have never used it will be googling it this morning to have a look around this little shop of horrors and then realise that they can buy the new Stephen Fry book much cheaper than they can in WHSmith.
If morals played such a huge part in shoppers decisions nobody would eat McDonalds or shop at Tesco. When they buy T Shirts for a quid, how much do they really think the bloke in malaysia who made it is getting paid?"I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0 -
freehub wrote:I don't agree with the publication of the book, it's disgusting, but I do agree that you're a proper numpty and that I'm not going to stop buying from Amazon because frankly I have more important things to do than worry about a single absurd book.
You think a company has done a 'bad thing', but you'll still give them your money?0 -
guinea wrote:freehub wrote:I don't agree with the publication of the book, it's disgusting, but I do agree that you're a proper numpty and that I'm not going to stop buying from Amazon because frankly I have more important things to do than worry about a single absurd book.
You think a company has done a 'bad thing', but you'll still give them your money?
Most big companies do bad things, and people don't bat an eyelid.
Anyway I've avoided amazon for years, due to the amount of stories of them being hacked and their credit card details stolen.0 -
redddraggon wrote:
Most big companies do bad things, and people don't bat an eyelid.
Thats OK then.Mañana0 -
Un. Be. Freaking. Lievable some of the ignorance and comments on this thread.
Think before you post eh?0 -
guinea wrote:freehub wrote:I don't agree with the publication of the book, it's disgusting, but I do agree that you're a proper numpty and that I'm not going to stop buying from Amazon because frankly I have more important things to do than worry about a single absurd book.
You think a company has done a 'bad thing', but you'll still give them your money?
Are you honestly telling me that you check the background of every company that you buy products from to check they haven't done anything bad? And all the affiliated companies, their manufacterers etc etc?
Sure...bad call from Amazon but boycotting the company will just increase their trade as more people go to look at the book. It'll probably be in their top 20 by the end of the day.
There's no such thing as bad publicity and all these stories and people getting their undercrackers in a bunch just add to the publicity.
Just ignore and these sad little perverts quest for said publicity will die quickly. Hopefully along with them.0 -
Might I be the first to point out that the word paedophile correctly refers to children who are not adult in a biological sense. There seems to be a disturbing trend staring in ths US to instead pretend it means 'any human under some arbitrary age of consent which changes depending on which country you live in'. Then of course we have the WHO who says that anyone under 18 is a 'child' in the eyes of the law, and so we see that according to them, most of us have been or are paedophiles.
So, although you might think the book refers to 60 year old men courting 7 year old girls, it could in fact be concerned with 19 year old men dated 17 year old girls.
Has anyone read it?"Coming through..."0 -
And as to Amazon not selling it:
“All of us can think of a book... that we hope none of our children or any other children have taken off the shelf. But if I have the right to remove that book from the shelf -- that book I abhor -- then you also have exactly the same right and so does everyone else. And then we have no books left on the shelf for any of us.” Katherine Patterson"Coming through..."0 -
Several issues here
1. Amazon are doing nothing illegal. They are lawfully able to sell the book under US law.
Should the campaign not be to change the law rather than against people acting lawfully
2. If you want to boycott companies who do "bad" but not illegal things, then you will find there are virtually no companies you can buy from. most companies do things that some people regard as bad
3. What you are advocating here is a form of censorship by the mob. Do we ban things the majority do not like simply because the majority do not like it? That is a rather totalitarian approach.
4. You are calling for a boycott of Amazon for selling a product I am presuming you have not read. how do you know what the book contains or is about? You are relying on others- a form of mass hysteria? It is a boycott being called from a position of ignorance about the details of what you are objecting toWant to know the Spen666 behind the posts?
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bear in mind that Fox News is hardly the most reliable and independent source anyway......0
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Freedom of speech innit?
Nobody is forcing you to read or buy the book and the thing about free expression is you have to tolerate things you find distasteful."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Herbie The Dog wrote:guinea wrote:freehub wrote:I don't agree with the publication of the book, it's disgusting, but I do agree that you're a proper numpty and that I'm not going to stop buying from Amazon because frankly I have more important things to do than worry about a single absurd book.
You think a company has done a 'bad thing', but you'll still give them your money?
Are you honestly telling me that you check the background of every company that you buy products from to check they haven't done anything bad? And all the affiliated companies, their manufacterers etc etc?
Sure...bad call from Amazon but boycotting the company will just increase their trade as more people go to look at the book. It'll probably be in their top 20 by the end of the day.
There's no such thing as bad publicity and all these stories and people getting their undercrackers in a bunch just add to the publicity.
Just ignore and these sad little perverts quest for said publicity will die quickly. Hopefully along with them.
Quite - the irony of this situation is that this book is now receiving much greater publicity - and no doubt finding a much greater readership - than it would, were we to have just ignored it as the sad ramblings of a perverted mind.0 -
Although freehub has put it in very bald terms, it touches a nerve because all of us (barring the most morally courageous) turn a blind eye to the evils of selfish capitalism when we choose to spend our hard earned - don't we? Who on here banks with Co-op and only buys their food from the local greengrocer / butcher? I can't afford to be morally courageous. As for 'Evil' Tesco - it might not be as ethically sound as Co-operative - but at least it provides a means for the poor to be able to afford good food.freehub wrote:As if people should boycott Amazon though, if I find something on Amazon I want cheaper than everywhere else I'm not going to think about this book and then say f**k them I'll take my custom elsewhere am I?0 -
I like the sound of the coke smuggling book mentioned in the article. Might have to give that a go.
That C59 will be mine....0 -
Businesses have a moral obligation to operate responsibly.
That's why initiatives such as Fair Trade exist, and the drive to stamp out child labour.
And also why Banks have sanctions imposed on them to prevent trading with known terrorists, for example.
This may only be one book, but Amazon have made a serious misjudgement in deciding to sell this book.
We can't all be expected to carry out in-depth background checks on every company we do business with, but when something like this is highlighted in the public media then it shouldn't be brushed aside.
On moral grounds, I strongly disagree with those who deem it acceptable to continue supporting a business with the knowledge they're trading in something as despicable as this.0 -
Easy to take such a lofty position for an online retalier supplying an irrelevant and seedy little e-book that would have dropped off the radar if it weren't for this hoo-ha. Will you also boycott Tesco's on the basis that it sells sexualised clothing for girls under 16?shm_uk wrote:On moral grounds, I strongly disagree with those who deem it acceptable to continue supporting a business with the knowledge they're trading in something as despicable as this.0 -
Can't the police seize the details of those that have bought this book off Amazon and then monitor them?0
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IronHorse100 wrote:
Easy to take such a lofty position for an online retalier supplying an irrelevant and seedy little e-book that would have dropped off the radar if it weren't for this hoo-ha. Will you also boycott Tesco's on the basis that it sells sexualised clothing for girls under 16?shm_uk wrote:On moral grounds, I strongly disagree with those who deem it acceptable to continue supporting a business with the knowledge they're trading in something as despicable as this.
True, there is morally no difference between the Amazon and Tesco scenarios.
Perhaps, like the majority of people, I am for some reason more accepting of the more subtle stuff, but when it's something highly emotive like Paedophilia then this really hits a nerve.
Our society is in general way too apathetic toward these kind of issues. We're happy to buy the odd jar of Fair Trade coffee to dull our conscience, but when the rubber hits the road all we really care about is our own convenience.
Having said that, affordability is a big factor (moreso than ever these days) - in an ideal world I'd shop at my local butchers, grocers, bike shop a lot more... but financially I can't afford to...
It's a dilemma.
Realisitically we can't all achieve the morally perfect lifestyle, although everybody should at least aspire to do so by making the correct moral decision whenever possible.
There's more I could do, I am sure.
Apathy is subtle but powerful.0 -
spen666 wrote:Several issues here
1. Amazon are doing nothing illegal. They are lawfully able to sell the book under US law.
Should the campaign not be to change the law rather than against people acting lawfully
2. If you want to boycott companies who do "bad" but not illegal things, then you will find there are virtually no companies you can buy from. most companies do things that some people regard as bad
3. What you are advocating here is a form of censorship by the mob. Do we ban things the majority do not like simply because the majority do not like it? That is a rather totalitarian approach.
4. You are calling for a boycott of Amazon for selling a product I am presuming you have not read. how do you know what the book contains or is about? You are relying on others- a form of mass hysteria? It is a boycott being called from a position of ignorance about the details of what you are objecting to
I think you have summed this up extremely well, nice post.....Oh and I agree 100%0 -
IronHorse100 wrote:Will you also boycott Tesco's on the basis that it sells sexualised clothing for girls under 16?
Nope, I don't go to Tesco as in my experience it's a soul-less shitehole of a place where you'll have better chance of finding a good deal on a 60" hdtv than bananas.
On the Amazon thing - wasn't there an outcry recently because they'd been banning certain titles because of homosexual-related content? Seems strange that they're fine with selling titles aimed at paedophiles but not homosexuals, strange choice of censorship I feel.Moda Issimo
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guinea wrote:freehub wrote:I don't agree with the publication of the book, it's disgusting, but I do agree that you're a proper numpty and that I'm not going to stop buying from Amazon because frankly I have more important things to do than worry about a single absurd book.
You think a company has done a 'bad thing', but you'll still give them your money?
Lol, you calling me dumb then you post a reply like that...ShutUpLegs wrote:Un. Be. Freaking. Lievable some of the ignorance and comments on this thread.
Think before you post eh?
I know, some of the comments are just silly!0 -
yeah for sure - agreed. I was kinda playing Devil's Avocado anywayshm_uk wrote:IronHorse100 wrote:shm_uk wrote:Realisitically we can't all achieve the morally perfect lifestyle, although everybody should at least aspire to do so by making the correct moral decision whenever possible.
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soulless? It's a supermarket FFS - what do you expect, Damien Hirst installations and jazz musicians jamming in the aisles? I go there to get great, cheap food, not enrich my soul.mcj78 wrote:IronHorse100 wrote:Will you also boycott Tesco's on the basis that it sells sexualised clothing for girls under 16?
Nope, I don't go to Tesco as in my experience it's a soul-less shitehole of a place where you'll have better chance of finding a good deal on a 60" hdtv than bananas.
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Have I stumbled onto the Daily Mail comments page?Ben
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No, that be on the dailymail site.0
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Ben6899 wrote:Have I stumbled onto the Daily Mail comments page?
It's a fair point, was this book written by an immigrant and more importantly will the sale of the book affect house prices?0
