This month's MBR?

supersonic

Anyone planning on buying a £4k downhill bike soon out of interest?

But if it had been £200 entry level bikes? The point is it will vary week on week. Hopefully ;-)

Riche1

supersonic wrote:

Anyone planning on buying a £4k downhill bike soon out of interest?

But if it had been £200 entry level bikes? The point is it will vary week on week. Hopefully ;-)

The previous month it was £2.5k- £3.5 long travel bikes.

It's getting close to Christmas and Joe Blog's kid fancies getting into a bit of mountian biking because all his mates are doing it and it looks like a laugh. Dad has a heart attack when he shows him the picture of what he wants, Christmas ruined.

supersonic

If that's the case, and they are repeatedly reviewing top end, expensive bikes then it does seem their target is the upper end, affluent MTBer. Or they are biased towards them. Let's see what next month brings, maybe totally different - maybe too cheap for you ;-)

Anonymous

the most interesting thing about this thread is that ollie lucas is an asian porn "user"

the rest of it is poor people complaining that they cant afford a new bike.

DJIP

I think Riche1, that you're thinking about it far too much, it's just a magazine, I'm sure there are people out there who thought this issue was amazing.

bartimaeus

At least you can get MBR on Tesco vouchers... which makes it very good value indeed.

Riche1

DJIP wrote:

I think Riche1, that you're thinking about it far too much, it's just a magazine, I'm sure there are people out there who thought this issue was amazing.

Will if they did they aren't speaking up. This mag cost £4.25 to non-subscribers, expensive bird cage shit collector.

stubs

Well I still havent read it all but I have had a quick flick through whilst sitting on the bog (where I do most of my reading) and I have to say its no different to any other months issue so I cant understand why you have your tits in the mangle over it.

I am never under any circumstances going to ride let alone buy a £4K DH bike but then I am never going to buy a £300 starter bike I might not have completely read that section from start to finish but its still interesting to see how the other baggy trousered half lives.

I have read the section on Whinlatter and I think I might go and ride there in the next month or so it sounds and looks okay for a trail centre.

I have read and appreciated the section on Star nuts and bungs, very interesting not something that usually gets reviewed but for a page and a mornings work by the journalist it was good and might come in useful next time I build a bike.

So far I think this issue is fine, MBR do go up there own bums occasionally when they get obsessed by angles and stems but no worse than any other bike mag. As other people have said MTBiking is a white middle class male dominated thing and to cater for any other market would be business suicide. I am currently infecting a middle aged middle class white female with the MTB bug and she would hate to think she was a special case (I think she is rather special but then I am in deep lust) she would cringe if MTB mags started special sections for her in her words she is now a MTBiker and she is proud to have a scab to prove it.

supersonic

I have to say I am intrigued by the star nut test! What won it?

stubs

It was a sort of score draw between the SFN and the FSA expanding bung.

stubs

If your interested sonic I could scan it for you and post it on facebunk

supersonic

I'm off to buy it tomorrow, but cheers for the offer! Not sure it would go down too well me having/reading scans of other mags on my page haha!

sniper68

Joint 1st 8/10
Star-fangled nut £1-£2
FSA compressor(carbonsteerer) £9.95

Joint 2nd 7/10
Hope head doctor £15
Azonic headlock(long) £16.99

3rd 6/10
Use Ring-go-star £13

supersonic

Lol, nice one!

Riche1

ibbo68 wrote:

Joint 1st 8/10
Star-fangled nut £1-£2
FSA compressor(carbonsteerer) £9.95

Joint 2nd 7/10
Hope head doctor £15
Azonic headlock(long) £16.99

3rd 6/10
Use Ring-go-star £13

Haha. No need to buy it now, Ibbo has just told you the best bit!

Thanks for your input Stubs, good points. I guess it is what it is but I just wish it was better. I also get your point about the stems! I'm pretty sure the MBR boys will be riding with rearward facing stems and metre wide bars in the very near future if they get their way.

stubs

supersonic wrote:

I'm off to buy it tomorrow, but cheers for the offer! Not sure it would go down too well me having/reading scans of other mags on my page haha!

Doesnt stop your porn habit though does it

Northwind

I'm genuinely confused as to whether this is a troll :? Every post Riche1 makes boils down to "I don't like it so it's rubbish. I don't like DH bikes, I don't have kids, I don't like the pictures, I don't like the kit reviews, therefore it is a total failure of a magazine..."

I've no intention to ride at Whistler in the near future but some of the pics are ace
The kids section is of no relevance to me but it's only 4 pages and it will be of relevance to some.
I'm not about to buy an ASR but it's an interesting article to me
The interbike section covers everything from top end DH forks right down to ODI grips, something in there for all pockets.
The shop ride section will be of interest to anyone in that area and it's good to recognise what some shops do for the riding community around them
The lakes ride feature is a fine example of a ride article
The Whinlatter review is interesting to me, though it could do with a "where in the country is it" map. Otherwise good.
You might have just skimmed past the riding hints from DHers assuming it wasn't relevant to you but it's not just for DH, DH is just riding bikes and what works for them works for everyone.
The Sports England article is a bit dry but does exactly what it says on the tin
The DH bikes section is again of no relevance to me but I still found it interesting. Though MBR's bike reviews are generally the worst in the business
The lights section could be of interest to anyone wanting to get into night rides, though it has the same failings of the WMB one, poor entry level light coverage
The headset preloader review made me laugh but it's actually not bad, just silly.
The kit section is just everyday sensible reviews, again for all budgets.
Chris Ball's bit is decent, sensible advice and well explained. Tech section was alright.

So yeah, that's a fair amount of content and to suggest it's all for "middle aged people" is just gibberish. Most of the magazines do cater for the higher spending end of the market but did you complain when they did their dirty dozen earlier in the year that catered for beginners? You don't have to be shopping to look in the window.

Bottom line is, if you expect a magazine in which every article is of particular relevance and interest to you, you'll have to write it yourself. Every time you don't like a feature some feller out there is probably going "Oh, trailbike tyres? Why would I want to read about that?"

colt

Hang on a mo! forget all this cr*p about the content, my white flash harry doesn't work! :evil:

Seriously though is this months edition really any different from any other? I've been flicking through it the last 20 mins or so and it doesn't strike me as a particuarly bad issue.

I have two kids and you know what? reading about how a 9 and 11 year old want to do 3!!! laps of cwm cairn makes me look forward to the day my nippers are out on the trail with me riding their bikes, (3 year old already does 3 miles + on his balance bike every time we go out )

The photo's from interbike could have come from any mtb magazine ( though the promotional girlies are rather pleasing to the eye )

Not representing the minorities? I ride cannock chase most weekend's and it's smack bang in the middle of suburbia, guess how many black, chinese, indian ,mexican riders I see... errr, not a lot thats why they are a minority! :roll:

Have a closer look at the letters page there you'll find two letter's from the under represented girlies, and you'll find that they're promising them articles on womens specific kit ,a long term test bike as well as some women specific first rides.

As mentioned earlier they also ran a subbox article a month or so ago about a black student whio competed in a race on a BSO after having his bike nicked, , if I remember correctly I think the were even going to approach some of the manufactures about getting a replacement bike for him.

4k bikes ? I can't afford em either, wouldn't spend the money if I could, doesn't mean I don't want read about em though

Sure, every magazine falls short of what I was expecting to read but as the saying goes you can please some of the people all the time ,but blah blah blah

simple answer ,dont subscribe flick through the pages on the newsagents shelf and then buy whichever one takes your fancy that month, simples! ( except for those that come shrink wrapped of course! )

Riche1

Northwind wrote:

I'm genuinely confused as to whether this is a troll :? Every post Riche1 makes boils down to "I don't like it so it's rubbish. I don't like DH bikes, I don't have kids, I don't like the pictures, I don't like the kit reviews, therefore it is a total failure of a magazine..."

I've no intention to ride at Whistler in the near future but some of the pics are ace
The kids section is of no relevance to me but it's only 4 pages and it will be of relevance to some.
I'm not about to buy an ASR but it's an interesting article to me
The interbike section covers everything from top end DH forks right down to ODI grips, something in there for all pockets.
The shop ride section will be of interest to anyone in that area and it's good to recognise what some shops do for the riding community around them
The lakes ride feature is a fine example of a ride article
The Whinlatter review is interesting to me, though it could do with a "where in the country is it" map. Otherwise good.
You might have just skimmed past the riding hints from DHers assuming it wasn't relevant to you but it's not just for DH, DH is just riding bikes and what works for them works for everyone.
The Sports England article is a bit dry but does exactly what it says on the tin
The DH bikes section is again of no relevance to me but I still found it interesting. Though MBR's bike reviews are generally the worst in the business
The lights section could be of interest to anyone wanting to get into night rides, though it has the same failings of the WMB one, poor entry level light coverage
The headset preloader review made me laugh but it's actually not bad, just silly.
The kit section is just everyday sensible reviews, again for all budgets.
Chris Ball's bit is decent, sensible advice and well explained. Tech section was alright.

So yeah, that's a fair amount of content and to suggest it's all for "middle aged people" is just gibberish. Most of the magazines do cater for the higher spending end of the market but did you complain when they did their dirty dozen earlier in the year that catered for beginners? You don't have to be shopping to look in the window.

Bottom line is, if you expect a magazine in which every article is of particular relevance and interest to you, you'll have to write it yourself. Every time you don't like a feature some feller out there is probably going "Oh, trailbike tyres? Why would I want to read about that?"

You haven't read a word i've said have you? Or if you did you didn't understand any of it. If it's gibberish, say why you think it's gibberish. You could say FHM has "content" but that's only true if you wanna tug all day.

My opinion is that WMB is now a far superior magazine and that's the one i will subsribe to next year.

alexj2233

Riche1 wrote:

You could say FHM has "content" but that's only true if you wanna tug all day.

You obviously don't buy FHM much. That or you just blow your load as soon as you see a (almost) semi naked lady.

I think this is probably a troll

Northwind

You get what you ask for and you say "You haven't read a word I've said". Previously unobvious troll is now obvious.

Riche1

What do you mean by troll?

cooldad

sheepsteeth wrote:

the most interesting thing about this thread is that ollie lucas is an asian porn "user"

the rest of it is poor people complaining that they cant afford a new bike.

That's an actual pic of him in his avatar wearing his gimp suit.

Tolk

Riche1 wrote:

What do you mean by troll?

He means he thinks you're trying to provoke angry responses with your replies / wind people up, on the interwebs it's commonly known as trolling.


Colt

If you contact the guys from the mag they'll send you replacements, one of the guys from the MBR forum had the same problem last time rond and they sorted him a replacement.

The Northern Monkey

I enjoyed last months MBR....

Riche1

Then the troll they're looking for is in fact themselves. What is so wrong with saying that this months MBR was a load of crap? When the vast majority of replies come from people defending it who haven't even read it yet or don't even intend to read it? Very few people actually came up with any valid points as to why it's not birdcage fodder.

Tolk

Indeed...

paul.skibum

But Northwind did and you rubbished his "defence" of the magazine which pretty much justified the entire mag you slated. You cant win with some people.

I havent read it but from what you and NW have said it sounds like a fairly typical edition of MBR to me. I dont buy MBR because it doesnt have enough in it of interest to me. Why do you buy it?

Riche1

This is what is actually read...

I've no intention to ride at Whistler in the near future but some of the pics are in a holiday brochure
The kids section is of no relevance to me so i wont read it but it's only 4 pages and it will be of relevance to some so might as well be 4 more pages of adverts
I'm never gonna buy an ASR but it's a picture of a nice bike, could be any bike.
The interbike section covers everything from top end DH forks right down to ODI grips, something in there for all pockets..... in every colour, lucky they're in focus after last night in Vegas.
The shop ride section will be of interest to anyone in that area and it's good to recognise what some shops do for the riding community around them
The lakes ride feature is a average example of a ride article
The Whinlatter review is the only interesting article, though it could do with a "where in the country is it" map. Otherwise good.
You might have just skimmed past the riding hints from DHers assuming it wasn't relevant to you but it's not just for DH, DH is just riding bikes and what works for them works for everyone.
The Sports England article is a bit pointless but does exactly what it says on the tin, annoy.
The DH bikes section is again of no relevance to me or anyone not reading MBUK but I still found it interesting. Though MBR's bike reviews are generally the worst in the business, fact.
The lights section could be of interest to anyone wanting to get into night rides, though it has the same failings of the WMB one, poor entry level light coverage and light that cost £500.
The headset preloader review made me laugh but it's actually not bad, just silly.
The kit section is just everyday sensible reviews, again for all budgets.
Chris Ball's bit is decent, sensible advice and well explained.
Tech section was stuffing some cardboard in a tyre secured with gaffer tape.

paul.skibum

What you read into Northwind's descriptions is your problem.

What I read into yours is that you spent money on a mag, didnt enjoy it and wish you hadnt. Get over it it wasnt that much money.