Using Muc Off
Paul 8v
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I thought I'd post this in the newbies section as I've never really used the stuff before. As Muc off is a de-greaser, if I spray it in the vicinity of mechs etc, will it strip all the grease on all the pivots, jokey wheels and springs etc? I'm assuming it does, does this mean every time I use it I will have to re-grease most of the bike?
Cheers
Paul
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Paul
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The normal pink stuff is just a light degreaser - I wouldn't spray it neat anywhere near bearings and pivots.0
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Aye, it's more of a detergent than a degreaser to be honest, I wouldn't worry too much. It can damage anodising though, so avoid leaving it on too long.0
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Thanks guys, I didn't want to have to take it all apart! I will do soon but I need a workstand first!0
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tbh i find a soloution of fairy liquid, a toothbrush and a baby bottle brush just as effective as muc off :?0
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Doesn't fairy have a really high salt content? I was told it was a bit of a no-no when it came to bikes and cars?0
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I don,t use muc off any more. I use Fenwicks FS1 diluted with 10 parts water, same as FS10 works out at £1 per liter a lot cheaper than muck off and better, you also have the neat FS1 for the realy stuborn stuff.0
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I use Fairy Liquid, it does contain salt, but I'm in the habit of washing it off, so it's fine.0
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I Iuse fenwicks as well.
The most important bits are drivetrain. I use chain cleaner then dry the chain with a cloth and then put light spray of GT/Teflon spray on chain. wipe of excess as if you put too much on it will atract dirt and clog jockey wheel and other parts.
rest of drivetrain i use fenwicks then light sprey of GT again wipe off excess.
Rest of bike just gets fenwicks and an occasional sprey of
GT on a cloth used as a polish brings it up nicely.
One thingto avoid----Jetwash.......
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I personally use this mobi portable pressure washer, low power so safe for bike use (id still probably avoid spraying it directly into bearings mind) and can be used from a car lighter so useful after riding trails ive had to drive to.
Will also state the obvious here, no muc off near your discs.0 -
i thought muc off could be used all over the bike? including diskes and pads etc?0
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I second that. as a Noob I was under the impression it was safe for Disc and Gears and bits that movegaanrowl wrote:i thought muc off could be used all over the bike? including diskes and pads etc?
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yeehaamcgee wrote:
Sounds like a lot of effort compared to a good spraying of muck-off, leaving it for 5-10 minutes, then a good hose-down though.mak3m wrote:tbh i find a soloution of fairy liquid, a toothbrush and a baby bottle brush just as effective as muc off :?
with regards to salt, i do use it at a fairly weak concentration and never had a problem
with muc off i did once forget to wipe off excess lube (wet) and went out for a ride and came back and it looked like someone had smeared dark grey pate on my chain and frame. muc off did a top job of getting it off my frame but i generally just get muddy and find i need to brush all the awkward to get too places to avoid the temptation to press the jet wash button :twisted:
could also be that im a tight arse not that many washes and me muc off is emptying rapidly and its £8 a pop, or 500+ washes from a 99p of fairy :P0 -
My 2c worth...
I used the Muc Off cleaner once. Sprayed it on, then immediately sluiced it off. Then went and bought a new cassette, chain, jockey wheels and mudguard as it stripped the surface off or immediately rusted anything it touched.
Nowadays i use Finish Line degreaser, about a 1:4 dilution for cleaning the chain, cassette and mechs, and a splash in a bucket for anything else that is greasy. Road bikes get more grease than off road, the off road bikes just get water usually.
As for heavy mud, I don't own a pressure washer, and my flat is about 100 ft above the garage, so I use a bucket. Brush off the worst of the mud with a coarse brush, then an old toothbrush and a rag to clean off the rest.
Wheel rims get a touch of Jif surface cleaner, which brings braking surfaces up brilliantly on a road bike, I don't know if it works on disks, generally I use water or let mud on those dry, and then just rub over with a dry cloth.
For lubrication, a teflon based spray like the Muc off on moving parts (not wd40 or GT, those are a bit thin, but good for cleaning caked up mechs though). Always spray on using a straw to direct it, and always wipe off excess. On cables a wet lube on any exposed sections, then work the mech thoroughly to pull it into the housing. A little vaseline on any exposed bolt heads also helps stop them rusting, and actually helps a little when using spanners/allen keys on them.0 -
^^Full of shite.robdaykin wrote:I used the Muc Off cleaner once. Sprayed it on, then immediately sluiced it off. Then went and bought a new cassette, chain, jockey wheels and mudguard as it stripped the surface off or immediately rusted anything it touched.
Been using muck-off since the nineties, never had a problem with it.0 -
I use Muc off de-greaser and bike cleaner and cannot complain about either. They may cost a bit but they save so much time. I would rather spend time riding than scrubbing.0
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Briggo wrote:gaanrowl wrote:i thought muc off could be used all over the bike? including diskes and pads etc?
You can, seems a lot of people dont read the instructions on the side of the bottle.
Ill leave you to it then mate, whenever it gets stuck on your disks get prepared to spend another 5 minutes rubbing alcohol on them to get them back to normal. Doesn't completely wash off with water and will make the squeal until youve been out long enough to wear it off.0 -
I don't rate Fenwicks compared to Muc-off, yeah ok it's cheaper, but then it's cheaper for a reason.
I just didn't find that Fenwicks did anything?
I have now just bought a bottle of Hope's Sh1t Shifter which I'll be trying out tomorrow, seems to have some good reviews so far.Craig Rogers0 -
Robowns wrote:Briggo wrote:gaanrowl wrote:i thought muc off could be used all over the bike? including diskes and pads etc?
You can, seems a lot of people dont read the instructions on the side of the bottle.
Ill leave you to it then mate, whenever it gets stuck on your disks get prepared to spend another 5 minutes rubbing alcohol on them to get them back to normal. Doesn't completely wash off with water and will make the squeal until youve been out long enough to wear it off.
Why would I waste alchohol on rubbing my disk brakes when I dont have the problem you seem to be getting, learn to clean your bike properly.
I'll keep the alcohol for myself thanks.x-isle wrote:I don't rate Fenwicks compared to Muc-off, yeah ok it's cheaper, but then it's cheaper for a reason.
I just didn't find that Fenwicks did anything?
With Fenwicks I find you have to give it a good scrub to dislodge the tough stains but does work, Muc Off you can just spray on and it starts to dislodge it straight away, as you spray it on you can see the dirt dripping off.0 -
mmmmmm starting to think i must have had a duff batch of muc off, i always have to scrub
either that or am a proper mucky bugger0 -
mak3m wrote:mmmmmm starting to think i must have had a duff batch of muc off, i always have to scrub
either that or am a proper mucky bugger
I suppose it could be that different cleaners are better or worse at shifting various different types of mud? Clay, boggy, sandy etc.....?Craig Rogers0 -
Briggo wrote:Robowns wrote:Ill leave you to it then mate, whenever it gets stuck on your disks get prepared to spend another 5 minutes rubbing alcohol on them to get them back to normal. Doesn't completely wash off with water and will make the squeal until youve been out long enough to wear it off.
Why would I waste alchohol on rubbing my disk brakes when I dont have the problem you seem to be getting, learn to clean your bike properly.
I'll keep the alcohol for myself thanks.
Maybe you haven't tried muc-off mate? Go give it a try, your obviously using something else.0 -
I would say exactly the same to you.Robowns wrote:Briggo wrote:Robowns wrote:Ill leave you to it then mate, whenever it gets stuck on your disks get prepared to spend another 5 minutes rubbing alcohol on them to get them back to normal. Doesn't completely wash off with water and will make the squeal until youve been out long enough to wear it off.
Why would I waste alchohol on rubbing my disk brakes when I dont have the problem you seem to be getting, learn to clean your bike properly.
I'll keep the alcohol for myself thanks.
Maybe you haven't tried muc-off mate? Go give it a try, your obviously using something else.0 -
So your saying you can spray muc-off all over your disks and then wash it off with just water and have your braking ability at 100%?yeehaamcgee wrote:
I would say exactly the same to you.Robowns wrote:Briggo wrote:Robowns wrote:Ill leave you to it then mate, whenever it gets stuck on your disks get prepared to spend another 5 minutes rubbing alcohol on them to get them back to normal. Doesn't completely wash off with water and will make the squeal until youve been out long enough to wear it off.
Why would I waste alchohol on rubbing my disk brakes when I dont have the problem you seem to be getting, learn to clean your bike properly.
I'll keep the alcohol for myself thanks.
Maybe you haven't tried muc-off mate? Go give it a try, your obviously using something else.0 -
Robowns wrote:
So your saying you can spray muc-off all over your disks and then wash it off with just water and have your braking ability at 100%?yeehaamcgee wrote:
I would say exactly the same to you.Robowns wrote:Briggo wrote:Robowns wrote:Ill leave you to it then mate, whenever it gets stuck on your disks get prepared to spend another 5 minutes rubbing alcohol on them to get them back to normal. Doesn't completely wash off with water and will make the squeal until youve been out long enough to wear it off.
Why would I waste alchohol on rubbing my disk brakes when I dont have the problem you seem to be getting, learn to clean your bike properly.
I'll keep the alcohol for myself thanks.
Maybe you haven't tried muc-off mate? Go give it a try, your obviously using something else.
Yes.
I have no idea what you're on about it effecting your breaking ability but it certainly didnt hinder my ability to stop whilst travelling around the Peak District a couple of days ago.0 -
Your having a laugh surely0
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x-isle wrote:mak3m wrote:mmmmmm starting to think i must have had a duff batch of muc off, i always have to scrub
either that or am a proper mucky bugger
I suppose it could be that different cleaners are better or worse at shifting various different types of mud? Clay, boggy, sandy etc.....?
could be, mainly ride in warwickshire which is covered top to toe in heavy stiff lime based clay (which is why we have so many cement works), when it rains its claggy as hell0
