Ian Tomlinson - No Charges

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Wow, you sound like amazing person, Ray.
    how can I be like you, is there a test?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    you could always bugger off elsewhere.

    That would be amazing.
    Then the rest of us could be left alone to indulge in being dull, over reactionary and mediocre with a nanny state government that clicks it's heels to Brussels and tiptoes around Islam and minorities in the absolute horror that someone may be offended.

    If only I knew how to indulge in "being with a nanny state government..." :?

    Maybe he could explain it to us before he leaves.
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Wow, you sound like amazing person, Ray.
    how can I be like you, is there a test?

    Yeeha,
    You know nothing about me at all....


    Sheeps, been there, done that. Lived on 4 continents and in 8 countries.
    I am in the progress of finalising my affairs in the west midlands to relocate once my 90 day mandatory notice period is up at the end of September

    I will be out of the country for a month in October then back to Blightly to start a new job that will have me continent hopping once again..

    Happy days.. ?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Wow, you sound like amazing person, Ray.
    how can I be like you, is there a test?

    Yeeha,
    You know nothing about me at all....


    Sheeps, been there, done that. Lived on 4 continents and in 8 countries.

    were you a cheesewand in all of those countries meaning you kept getting deported and you finally settled here?

    also, going on holiday doesnt count as living abroad.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Yeeha,
    You know nothing about me at all....
    And you nothing of me, you small minded, presumptuous, intolerant, ignoramus cunt
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Yeehaa, you are such a keyboard hardman that my monitor flickers in fear..
  • the police are twatbreaths and i like them

    nice.

    Are you trying to provoke a reaction coz if you are I might have to throw you to the floor

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJMRxbECzow
    '..all the bad cats in the bad hats..'
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Yeehaa, you are such a keyboard hardman that my monitor flickers in fear..
    Sounds like your monitor is as much of a knee-jerk reactionist as you are then?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    c'mon guys, cant we all just get along. one person is dead already lets not let anyone else die just because the police are twatbreaths™
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Sheep, you I appreciate because you're a squaddie and my old man was one for 22 years too.
    I did serve but not in the UK armed forces and irrespective all squaddies / grunts / troops have a very brash sense of humour.

    I never made this personal plus Yeehaa don't bother me, as he puts the capital I before "relevant"
    I love winding up the keyboard warriors who MTFU behind the keyboard and revert to profanities when the gray matter runs out of intelligent content..
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Can we not also tar all police with the same brush? My brother is currently in the force, and my uncle served for 30 years. Both are very respectable people, in a difficult job.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    i know raymondavalon, i remember you saying about your old man and alluding towards your military background, i figured you'd like my responses.
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    supersonic wrote:
    Can we not also tar all police with the same brush? My brother is currently in the force, and my uncle served for 30 years. Both are very respectable people, in a difficult job.

    +potato on that as the area I consult in comprises of over 30 of the Police digital forensics units and counter terrorism units.
    These guys do a sterling job in keeping us and our families safe, sure no one's perfect but compared to some of the places I've lived, the police here are polite and efficient is most instances..
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    supersonic wrote:
    Can we not also tar all police with the same brush? My brother is currently in the force, and my uncle served for 30 years. Both are very respectable people, in a difficult job.

    +potato on that as the area I consult in comprises of over 30 of the Police digital forensics units and counter terrorism units.
    These guys do a sterling job in keeping us and our families safe, sure no one's perfect but compared to some of the places I've lived, the police here are polite and efficient is most instances..

    yeah but the 2 things which separate us form the animals are thumbs and generalizing about people we dont know.

    no ones gonna stop me from doing either of those things. my grandad fought the muslims to give me the freedom to be a cheesewand.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    So, in essence...
    I'm backtracking like an used prostitute with her head on backwards.
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    So, in essence...
    I'm backtracking like an used prostitute with her head on backwards.

    Meaning what exactly?
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ

    though The Clash did a sterling version its all about this
    '..all the bad cats in the bad hats..'
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    So, in essence...
    I'm backtracking like an used prostitute with her head on backwards.

    Meaning what exactly?
    Oh, I dunno, how about raging about all the foot soldiers of the armies should be bought to justice, and about everyone in the country are idiots, towing the line etc.

    Then, in an amazing about turn, massive respect for the police and military?

    You're a blowhard. Maybe if you quit foaming at the mouth for a second and took life a little lighter, you'd realise that maybe your dissing of all of Britain might just be "Dull, over reactionary and mediocre"
    Just like, ironically enough, what your typical Daily Mail reader would proclaim :lol:
  • supersonic wrote:
    Can we not also tar all police with the same brush? My brother is currently in the force, and my uncle served for 30 years. Both are very respectable people, in a difficult job.

    I don't think they done much wrong. One copper got a little over-enthusiastic, quite possibly fueled by adrenalin, and almost certainly provoked, in a situation that had potential to become volatile very quickly. If there job was to track down criminals and call them very naughty boys they wouldn't be much use to us.

    There are cases of real police brutality, but this really isn't one of them. It was clearly an accidental death, if not of natural causes. It annoys me when the guys protecting us are branded criminals, and Roaul Moat is a hero..
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Roaul Moat is a hero..

    ooooh, you swine.
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Oh, I dunno, how about raging about all the foot soldiers of the armies should be bought to justice, and about everyone in the country are idiots, towing the line etc.

    Then, in an amazing about turn, massive respect for the police and military?

    You're a blowhard. Maybe if you quit foaming at the mouth for a second and took life a little lighter, you'd realise that maybe your dissing of all of Britain might just be "Dull, over reactionary and mediocre"
    Just like, ironically enough, what your typical Daily Mail reader would proclaim :lol:

    MENSA boi it was a sort of dig at Sheepsteeth not at the army as an institution.
    Where did I have a go at the army or police? It was a dig at the government too.

    Perhaps you should read into what people write opposed to looking at the words. Could your shortfall be caused by a "Speak & Spell" education?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Perhaps you should read into what people write opposed to looking at the words. Could your shortfall be caused by a "Speak & Spell" education?
    And there, I think is the flaw.
    Unfortunately, the words are precisely the only thing we have here.
    I realise that's a difficult concept to grasp, but once you do, it's still quite a shocker to realise that it requires some intelligent thought to adequately express your ideas as words. Spitting them out angrily does not a point put across.

    You see, words have power. The power of your words is in presenting you as a foaming at the mouth nutcase. And believe me, I mean nutcase in the most extreme sense.
    The kind of nutter that everyone in this country will be glad to see the back of, even if it is only temporarily.
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    Yeehaa,

    As long as you're happy with your own assessments and the belief you speak for the "country"
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    edited August 2010
    Well....
    Carbonfiend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYM3KOByTDw

    He's walking away from the police with his hands in his pockets. I still don't think that's provocation

    Oh, and the police lied, said that they'd found him in an alley (after definitely not 'dealing' with him beforehand) and were trying to save him when they were attacked by an angry mob. Utter bollocks!

    Butcher of bakersfield: There are cases where officers might do things with the deliberate aim of hurting someone. In this instance, that's probably not the case. But he did knock him to the ground. And all of the credible evidence suggests that that's what killed him. Seeing as he was walking away from the police with his hands in his pocket, I don't think the push was justified. The fact it's not even going to trial is frustrating, a least get to a point where a jury can hear evidence and decide. Not just have it stopped from even getting to court because of now discredited evidence.

    Raymond: When have you actually had to do something to keep muslims happy? I genuinely want to know, all I hear when people say things like this are 2nd or 3rd hand stories about how a friend's landlord's neighbour had to take down an England flag to avoid upsetting immigrants. Which doesn't even make any sense..

    The rest of you....behave! :lol:
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    my dad used to be a coal miner, all the immigrants came over and closed the mines, thats why this county is in the state it is in.

    fact.
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    i might have stretched the truth a bit but my old man genuinely was a coal miner.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Yeehaa,

    As long as you're happy with your own assessments and the belief you speak for the "country"
    What? Of course I don't speak for country or nation, but I am british, and take offence to your dim view of fellow British people, as that includes me.
    Although I am pretty sure that the entire country would breathe a collective sigh of relief as your plane, train or boat disappeared over the horizon.
  • bails87 wrote:
    Butcher of bakersfield: There are cases where officers might do things with the deliberate aim of hurting someone. In this instance, that's probably not the case. But he did knock him to the ground. And all of the credible evidence suggests that that's what killed him. Seeing as he was walking away from the police with his hands in his pocket, I don't think the push was justified. The fact it's not even going to trial is frustrating, a least get to a point where a jury can hear evidence and decide. Not just have it stopped from even getting to court because of now discredited evidence.

    Fair point about the trial. Under the circumstances I wholeheartedly agree that there should be a full and fair investigation for all parties involved.

    I do think he was being provocative though. And I know I'm not alone in that opinion. Hands in the pockets or not, it looks very much to me like he's taunting the police, deliberately blocking their way.

    That should be for the courts to decide though. So I completely agree with you there. What really grates me, is the witch hunt attitude instigated by the media. That copper was tried and sentenced on the day that footage came out. There was some far worse alleged assaults committed by the police that day.
  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    yeehaamcgee

    I heard the same thing from some Brits about Wales. One said "If that leach of a principality broke off and sank into the sea we'd be a wealthier for it"
    I disagreed strongly as I think this country needs Wales to show them what real rugby is all about and also what can happen when you date women you meet at family reunions.


    :wink: