Power Meters

CavMan
CavMan Posts: 3
Long time lurker.....

Me and a mate are thinking of buying a power meter between us as they are so expensive.
If we ride 2 a breast in the same gear at the same speed will be both be putting out the same wattage?

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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    CavMan wrote:
    If we ride 2 a breast in the same gear at the same speed will be both be putting out the same wattage?

    Maybe, maybe not. Aerodynamics/mass/etc will affect power.

    You can't share a PM like you intend. You'd have to take turns training with it.
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  • you will be within a certain range based on W/kg -

    eg rider 1 - 50kg - 200W - 4W/kg
    then rider 2 at 100kg would need to put out around 400W's

    the deviations being due to frontal area, weight of bikes... - but more or less comparable - gearing wouldnt matter that much
  • you will be within a certain range based on W/kg -

    eg rider 1 - 50kg - 200W - 4W/kg
    then rider 2 at 100kg would need to put out around 400W's

    the deviations being due to frontal area, weight of bikes... - but more or less comparable - gearing wouldnt matter that much

    What? Weight is irrelevant if they're on the flat. If it's uphill you can't just pluck out the same watts/KG as a magic figure either - it depends on the slope.

    If you can't afford a PM just hire one for a while along with a coach for the same period. That's a better use of money then a shared £1000 piece of kit that's only going to end in tears.
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  • how is weight irrelevant?

    Force = mass(kg) * acceleration
    Power = Force * distance = mass(kg) * accelleration * distance
  • CavMan wrote:
    Long time lurker.....

    Me and a mate are thinking of buying a power meter between us as they are so expensive.
    If we ride 2 a breast in the same gear at the same speed will be both be putting out the same wattage?
    No. Unless you are a clone of your mate.
  • chrisw12
    chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    This might get interesting, so does mass matter on the flat or not? Physics lesson anyone? :lol:
  • how is weight irrelevant?

    Force = mass(kg) * acceleration
    Power = Force * distance = mass(kg) * accelleration * distance
    Because when riding along at a constant speed, you are not accelerating and you are ignoring all the other resistance forces when looking at F=ma component alone.

    Mass on the flat does have an impact on power requirement as rolling resistance is proportional to mass but that's a lower order effect compared to air resistance.

    In essence there are many variables, the largest being aerodynamics and the next being mass when climbing/descending.
  • CavMan
    CavMan Posts: 3
    Thanks for all your replies.
    We've now sorted it out between ourselves by buying a Tandem.
  • Scrumple
    Scrumple Posts: 2,665
    far too many trolls on here of late, and idiots who bite.