ligget and sherwen today

fast as fupp

i thought they were going to break down in tears today at lances demise*






*wasnt his fault at all all those nasty forrun riders bringing him down and going faster than him

donrhummy

Really, I think your hatred of Lance is clouding how you heard that. Definitely, they weren't ecstatic about it but they actually didn't seem that broken up about it and part of why they mentioned him so much was: 1. They're employed by an American company (Versus), 2. He was shown on screen about 500 times after he was dropped. They had to talk about what's on screen at least half the time.

paulcuthbert

Ligget even mentioned something like "When you've been the most famous rider in professional cycling for this long, there's no hiding from the cameras"

timoid.

paulcuthbert wrote:

Ligget even mentioned something like "When you've been the most famous rider in professional cycling for this long, there's no hiding from the cameras"

Which is true. Their worst crime today was thinking the peloton was on the Alpe d'Huez.

kettrinboy

yeah heard the Alpe d'Huez gaffe and thought uh! but did you also hear the bit where Sherwen said the riders were "smoothing pedally" made me laugh anyway

gavintc

The TV feed is constant, only the commentary changes. They have to adapt their line of words in keeping with what the producer thinks looks good. A picture of Lance demands some words of Lance.

morstar

kettrinboy wrote:

Sherwen said the riders were "smoothing pedally" made me laugh anyway

Now that was so funny!
Did you notice a supressed giggle from Liggett when the cardboard version was running alongside.

ddraver

paulcuthbert wrote:

Ligget even mentioned something like "When you've been the most famous rider in professional cycling for this long, there's no hiding from the cameras"

Hower the "this is no way to treat a former 7 times winner of the Tour" line....? Oh sorry Paul we ll just tell all the other GC competitors to sit up so Lancywance can catch up then!!"

paulcuthbert

ddraver wrote:

Hower the "this is no way to treat a former 7 times winner of the Tour" line....?

He wasn't talking about other riders. He was talking about "Lady Luck's" treatment of him. It was in context of that that he said it

dougzz

Rather than digging deep or hanging tough, they were apparently hanging deep, and after Liggett said it Sherwin repeated it, or maybe vice versa, or maybe it was digging tough

morstar

It was a dour stage though wasn't it!?

Anonymous

morstar wrote:

It was a dour stage though wasn't it!?

Twicefold!

dougzz

morstar wrote:

It was a dour stage though wasn't it!?

Absolutely, where was the fight at the end?

"Guns or Knives Butch?"

"Wheels"

mr_poll

What did make me smile (apart from Lance blowing up) was some bloke with a 4ft cut out of Liggetts head (avec headphones) waving it around about half way up the last climb.

pedro118118

I'm still reeling form Phil & Paul's 'Lance Love-In' on St 3. Describing how he "loves the cobbles" so much and how he "goes so well on them" over the years. Really? When exactly?!

I do sympathise to a certain extent though, as they are pandering to their audience, which is largely baseball-cap-backwards-wearing, texas-longhorn-hand-gesturing, wristband-sporting, whooping-and-hollering Livestrong disciples from the States. Which is fine - I would expect the Italian, French and Spanish commentators are equally home rider focussed.

Spiny_Norman

paulcuthbert wrote:

ddraver wrote:

Hower the "this is no way to treat a former 7 times winner of the Tour" line....?

He wasn't talking about other riders. He was talking about "Lady Luck's" treatment of him. It was in context of that that he said it

True, not total fanboi-ism, but still a ridiculous comment. How interesting, though, that after years of telling us how Lance cleverly stays out of trouble unlike those stupid slapstick foreigners, thanks to superior road positioning and bike handling skills, suddenly he's coming down in crash after crash he couldn't do anything about!

It's almost as if they were bullsh*tting to make it sound as if Armstrong had done something to deserve his competitors crashing out in previous years, rather than being the beneficiary of random chance.

Garry H

Spiny_Norman wrote:

True, not total fanboi-ism, but still a ridiculous comment. How interesting, though, that after years of telling us how Lance cleverly stays out of trouble unlike those stupid slapstick foreigners, thanks to superior road positioning and bike handling skills, suddenly he's coming down in crash after crash he couldn't do anything about!

But that was the whole point of the comment!!

micron

As Jeff Bernard reminds us in today's Equipe, luck - good or bad - really has nothing to do with it. Staying upright is a question of concentration, placement and bike handling skills all of which seemed to desert Armstrong yesterday. Excuses include saddle sore/banged up hip/bonking but definitely not pressure of being under federal investigation

paulcuthbert

Sherwen also called Ivan Basso 'Iven Besso'...

:?:

moray_gub

donrhummy wrote:

Really, I think your hatred of Lance is clouding how you heard that. Definitely, they weren't ecstatic about it but they actually didn't seem that broken up about it and part of why they mentioned him so much was: 1. They're employed by an American company (Versus), 2. He was shown on screen about 500 times after he was dropped. They had to talk about what's on screen at least half the time.

+1

Watched it last night didnt think they were as bad as was being made out in here, in fact David Harmon made far more of it on Eurospsort.

moray_gub

pedro118118 wrote:

I'm still reeling form Phil & Paul's 'Lance Love-In' on St 3. Describing how he "loves the cobbles" so much and how he "goes so well on them" over the years. Really? When exactly?!

I do sympathise to a certain extent though, as they are pandering to their audience, which is largely baseball-cap-backwards-wearing, texas-longhorn-hand-gesturing, wristband-sporting, whooping-and-hollering Livestrong disciples from the States. Which is fine - I would expect the Italian, French and Spanish commentators are equally home rider focussed.

Dont you just love a good sterotype.

paulcuthbert

Ligget, in his first sentence on air - mistakes the Colombiere for the Madeleine

D'oh!

paulcuthbert

And again...

jerry3571

Paul and Phil said today that Cunego was favourite to win from the break as the has the quickest sprint and discounted Sandy Casar. I thought Casar was a pretty good climber who does breakaways and has a good sprint.
Look like that was the case today.
Hmmm...

-Jerry

Ps- A strange clip demonstrating this. The music is worth a listen on it's own merits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGI8z-r ... re=related

Pross

Their comment that Armstrong still being in the group when Evans and Sastre got dropped "shows Armstrong is out of contention due to bad luck not bad form" was my favourite.

paulcuthbert

Pross wrote:

Their comment that Armstrong still being in the group when Evans and Sastre got dropped "shows Armstrong is out of contention due to bad luck not bad form" was my favourite.

You don't agree?

iainf72

paulcuthbert wrote:

Pross wrote:

Their comment that Armstrong still being in the group when Evans and Sastre got dropped "shows Armstrong is out of contention due to bad luck not bad form" was my favourite.

You don't agree?

Do you consider Basso to still be in contention? Because Armstrong is slightly worse than Basso.

timoid.

paulcuthbert wrote:

Pross wrote:

Their comment that Armstrong still being in the group when Evans and Sastre got dropped "shows Armstrong is out of contention due to bad luck not bad form" was my favourite.

You don't agree?

That comment was moments before Armstrong was shelled by the leaders.

They also stated that Evans was cracking because of form not luck when in fact he was riding with a broken elbow.

But even Phil and Paul can big up Bottle's tiresome wheelsucking.

Pross

paulcuthbert wrote:

Pross wrote:

Their comment that Armstrong still being in the group when Evans and Sastre got dropped "shows Armstrong is out of contention due to bad luck not bad form" was my favourite.

You don't agree?

No. He had bad luck but that was at least in part due to his positioning in the bunch but he also had a bad day - it happens and costs riders a podium finish every year. He was slightly better today but still couldn't match the pace or even ride with Leipheimer,

paulcuthbert

Pross wrote:

paulcuthbert wrote:

Pross wrote:

Their comment that Armstrong still being in the group when Evans and Sastre got dropped "shows Armstrong is out of contention due to bad luck not bad form" was my favourite.

You don't agree?

No. He had bad luck but that was at least in part due to his positioning in the bunch but he also had a bad day

I read somewhere he was right at the front of the peloton for the early crash. Suppose it doesn't matter where you are if the man in front of you goes down!

pablojag

They couldn't even agree on who was & wasn't a great descender. Describing Menchov as a great bike handler...a man who has been captured falling so many times on his own. Classic!