THIRTY EIGHT ( Point ) TWO...MILLION, English Pounds!!!!!

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  • westerburk
    westerburk Posts: 37
    el_presidente wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    cee wrote:
    el_presidente wrote:
    The Prime Minister is appointed by the monarch - by convention it's the leader of the the party that wins the election, but this is just convention, it's not written down anywhere.

    Hence why Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister for days after the election and had to tender his resignation to the queen before the next guy could get on with running the country.

    so you are saying that the queen is benevolent in her royal dictatorship?

    Question....has a monarch of the UK ever overridden a general election result?

    But this is the point. If a government is holding on to power illegitimately, if it refuses to abide by the democratic will of the people or is acting in a way which is causing severe danger to the state of Great Britain the Head of State has the authority to disband Parliament with force from the Services who answer to her. She has the ultimate monopoly on violence.

    This keeps power from politicians, its a check on the power of the executive and the legislature. Imagine a situation with a government of one party with a President of the same party. What acts as a check on that power? Whats to stop them ignoring term limits etc etc?


    Hmm, good question. Seems to work OK in the USA.

    No it doesnt.
  • westerburk
    westerburk Posts: 37
    several hundred million the cost of nothing pc jobs for the left wing boyos as created by the last government

    Cant wait to see a real government start clearing these money sucking labour voting money drains back overseas or onto the dole or streets where they belong
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    westerburk wrote:
    several hundred million the cost of nothing pc jobs for the left wing boyos as created by the last government

    Cant wait to see a real government start clearing these money sucking labour voting money drains back overseas or onto the dole or streets where they belong
    i think youve gone off the topic. were talking about jim royal and co.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    frenchfighter wrote:

    Anyone that says the royals draw in lots of tourism, simply reply that there would be even more toursim if they didn't exist anymore and the places they have are opened for public viewing. For instance, Palais de Versailles in France is always busy and it is not cheap to enter. Also, have you ever met a tourist who said they came to the UK because of the royals....

    No-one ever says that they bought something because of an advert either, yet billions is spent on advertising. Essentially, that's what the Royals are these days - a living advert for Britain.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    It boils down to, do you want a monachy or don't you?

    I think her maj does an almost impossible task. could the nation manage, manage without them, yes
    Tail end Charlie

    The above post may contain traces of sarcasm or/and bullsh*t.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I wonder how many hours of taxable earnings/production are lost due to people being on forums when they should be working?

    Mmm?
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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Frank the tank wrote:
    It boils down to, do you want a monachy or don't you?

    End of debate.

    Practically everyone in the country would have the same level of political freedom, and be equally well off, under a monarchy or republic.

    This debate is probably no more useful than, say, Campag v Shimano.
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    westerburk wrote:
    several hundred million the cost of nothing pc jobs for the left wing boyos as created by the last government

    Cant wait to see a real government start clearing these money sucking labour voting money drains back overseas or onto the dole or streets where they belong

    burk by name..........................
    'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'
  • westerburk
    westerburk Posts: 37
    fast as fupp wrote:
    westerburk wrote:
    several hundred million the cost of nothing pc jobs for the left wing boyos as created by the last government

    Cant wait to see a real government start clearing these money sucking labour voting money drains back overseas or onto the dole or streets where they belong

    burk by name..........................

    Especially lazy workshy scousers

    ehhh gizza job mister
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    westerburk wrote:
    several hundred million the cost of nothing pc jobs for the left wing boyos as created by the last government

    Cant wait to see a real government start clearing these money sucking labour voting money drains back overseas or onto the dole or streets where they belong


    burk by name..........................

    I don't normally agree with Fast as Fupp, but on this occasion he has my whole hearted agreement., and bompington is spot on with Monarchy v Republic as Campag v Shimano analogy
  • westerburk
    westerburk Posts: 37
    noticed the greedy avaricious retards want payrises for hard done to public sector workers.

    Well how about redundacy at minimum payour rates cum splats. same as the rest of us
  • shouldbeinbed
    shouldbeinbed Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2010
    westerburk wrote:
    noticed the greedy avaricious retards want payrises for hard done to public sector workers.

    Well how about redundacy at minimum payour rates cum splats. same as the rest of us

    as a greedy avaricious retard. I don't. I have no expectation of a pay rise anytime soon, also my contract has been amended with no union opposition or fight to include compulsory redundancy and my redundancy payment will be less than 1 weeks pay for every year I've worked.

    The vast majority of public servants are on lower wages than private sector counterparts with similar jobs or levels of responsibility and do not have any hope of bonuses, shares, company cars, incentives for hitting targets etc that are available across the private sector (not to all I know before you try to twist this). Throughout the Labour regimen my pay rise never got above 3% and was routinely at least 1/2 to 1 % below the prevailing inflation rate. on the basis that public sector pay couldn't match the private sector (my best pal and my bro and other private sector family were getting 4-7% when I was getting 2-2,5%) without having to put up taxes or cut spending to frontline services etc.

    the only payback we had was a fairly secure job and a final salary pension (into which I pay near 10% of my salary). gone and going for what? no perks & routinely poorer pay than you to help keep your taxes down.

    we're not all Whitehall mandarins that seem to get reported as the typical greedy avaricious retard in the public sector in fact VERY FEW of us are

    is that hit enough for you and your frothy mouthed friends in Daily Mail gullible ranting dickhead land?
  • tarquin_foxglove
    tarquin_foxglove Posts: 554
    westerburk wrote:
    Well how about redundacy at minimum payour rates cum splats. same as the rest of us

    I don't understand this argument, if your pay & conditions are so poor why don't you do something about it, why do want others p&c reduced to your minimum level?

    It would be like the match girls demanding 'Phosphorous poisoning & bone cancer for everyone'.

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