Armstong's last TdeF - about time!
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ProBiker - I'm not analysing anything in any detail whatsoever, I'm simply saying that it is a matter of recorded fact via Armstrong's press conference's as to why he was making a comeback. He said it, so there it is in a nutshell.
Dennis - if you don't care why are you debating it on here? Also, did you google it yet?0 -
iainf72 wrote:dennisn wrote:
Little extra cash, fame and fortune, maybe even whipping up on the "younger generation".
Sounds good to me.
Do you mean "getting whipped by the younger generation"?
Could be, but in my defence I did say "maybe" whipping.
Old age and treachery is not to be overlooked as a method of winning. For us old guys it's all we have left and we've had lots of practice. :oops:0 -
You mean he won ONE race seven times, well well. is that it then.Splottboy wrote:One of the youngest triathlon champs.
One of the youngest World Road Race Champs.
7 times, yes, SEVEN Times Tour de France winner.
Not seen the Triathlon bit. Is that some fantastic big International Race then or just a little Texan do like a Rodeo. ????
He got desperate when he lost his hair and a ball, was it.?
His palmares to that date resembled that of Poulidor with so many 2nd 3rd or dead end places. The best memory is -
That in the Tour du Pont in overall 2nd place again and the final stage time trial he was caught by Raul Alcala who then punctured.
The Texan storms by thinking at last he could win but Alcala rides past once again (see yer, bye bye) to take the overall win.
So in the big time pro game he somehow wins 7 GT's and one World Championship.
I've seen him likened to Brouchard before the cancer and I would agree that neither had a Tour de France Win potential.
(Brouchard was an attacking rider and had a better chance though )
Like all good Magic tricks, all will be revealed on day.?????
You Fools, The next Stage he is to be seen on is the Politics Stage.
Why the hell did he torment himself to stay in the Public Eye. ????Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
deejay wrote:Splottboy wrote:One of the youngest triathlon champs.
One of the youngest World Road Race Champs.
7 times, yes, SEVEN Times Tour de France winner.
Like all good Magic tricks, all will be revealed on day.?????
FWIW I think that whatever is "revealed", whenever IT is "revealed", and mostly IF anything is actually "revealed" that it won't be anything like anyone expects. I'm guessing
one of two things will happen. We'll all be sitting around going "Wow, I didn't expect that"
or "Jeez, what's the big deal".0 -
Deejay calls it perfectly.
He'll be Governor of Texas within next 4 years.0 -
Am I missing something... I thought the 'magic' had already been revealed... it's just not universally accepted by people who don't follow the sport (and a few who do) 0
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RichN95 wrote:Yorkman wrote:Deejay calls it perfectly.
He'll be Governor of Texas within next 4 years.
No chance. The muck-rakers in US politics make David Walsh look like Lorraine Kelly. They'd rip him to pieces and he knows it.
I'm not so sure. After all it is Texas and what the h*ll, Arnold is Governor of California.
Not to forget a black man in the White House. This is America and If I've learned anything
at all in my life it's that "what can happen will".
You do have it right about the muckrakers. Any and all celeb's, politicians, etc. are fair game and none escape a bit, or a lot, of bad press. It's the national pastime, or so it would seem.0 -
Last tour de france does not actually 100% guarantee he is retiring...could race a whole host of other races.0
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Sorry to be completely OT, but, edhornby, it's Jens Voigt not Voight.....
Apologies, everyone, that's been driving me mad!
As you were....0 -
Seeing none of us here have the mindset of a world class athlete we can only guess why he/they make come backs0
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Richrd2205 wrote:Sorry to be completely OT, but, edhornby, it's Jens Voigt not Voight.....
Apologies, everyone, that's been driving me mad!
As you were....[/quote
phew, unrelated but perhaps the big guy's last tour too ???? hopefully not0 -
dennisn wrote:iainf72 wrote:Hi Dennis
Can you tell me when Lance last won a bike race?
You miss my point completely. A person can race or work at a job for as long as someone is willing to hire them.
Of course, he runs his own team, so it wouldn't have been hard to pass the job interview. And let's be honest here, HIS return might be about riding a bike [although at some crazy point in time he mentioned it was for the cancer cause], but those around him are only motivated by one thing:
making money through his name.
Plain and simple.0 -
Splottboy wrote:One of the youngest triathlon champs.
One of the youngest World Road Race Champs.
7 times, yes, SEVEN Times Tour de France winner.
Was given the "Last Rites" due to his well documented illness.
Fathered numerous kids, with one testicle !!!
Founder of a huge cancer awareness/fund raising charity.
( Hang on..does he wear his underpanys outside of his trousers? NO?
Well he bloody well should...)
Let's see, any OTHER World Class sports people - never mind cyclists - got a CV like that?
No, Zip, Zilch, Nada, Zero, Nuffin even close to it.
Alberto Contador
1st Paris-Nice 2007
1st Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 2007
1st Tour de France 2007
1st Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 2008
1st Vuelta al Pais Vasco 2008
1st Giro d'Italia 2008
1st Vuelta a Espana 2008
1st Volta ao Algarve 2009
1st Vuelta al Pais Vasco 2009
1st Spanish Time Trial Championshios
1st Tour de France 2009
1st Volta ao Algarve 2010
1st Paris Nice 2010
1st Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 2010
...........
+lots more to come (also this list does not include stage wins or high places in other races which he has by the bucketload)
While racing in the Tour of Asturias in 2004, he collapsed to the ground almost like Tom Simpson with severe convulsions. Doctors said that he had a congenital problem with an artery in his brain and they called it cerebral cavernoma. He currently takes epileptic medication for it and did not return to cycling until the following season.
He visits sick children in hospitals quite often http://www.albertocontadornotebook.info/media2009.html
So id say he has infact a very good CV, one that is going to improve in coming seasons as he has said he wants to do the Giro next year and has given strong indications he wants to do the Vuelta this year. He has also said he would like to persue some of the classics in the future.
But ofcourse Splottboy there is no way that his palmares live up to winning the same race 7 times :roll: and then taking the rest of the year off..........
And there is no way he is a great role model and ambassador for the sport :roll: ................... Do you have any Therapeutic Use Exemptions?
No. Never have.
Never? What about the cortisone?
Well, obviously there was the cortisone0 -
Splottboy wrote:One of the youngest triathlon champs.
One of the youngest World Road Race Champs.
7 times, yes, SEVEN Times Tour de France winner.
Was given the "Last Rites" due to his well documented illness.
Fathered numerous kids, with one testicle !!!
Founder of a huge cancer awareness/fund raising charity.
( Hang on..does he wear his underpanys outside of his trousers? NO?
Well he bloody well should...)
Let's see, any OTHER World Class sports people - never mind cyclists - got a CV like that?
No, Zip, Zilch, Nada, Zero, Nuffin even close to it.
Okay... IN other sports, Senna, Federer, Schumacher, Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, Pete Sampras, Sebastian Loeb, to name a few
In Cycling... Merckx, Hinault, Indurain, Coppi, LeMond, Kelly all won a massive variety of events multiple times. Their achievements are at least the equal of Armstrong's if one considers racing days and the need to race as much as they did."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
@gietvangent0 -
Didn't Merckx win around 500 pro road races? Anyone know how many Armstrong won in addition to the 8 everyone knows about?disgruntledgoat wrote:In Cycling... Merckx, Hinault, Indurain, Coppi, LeMond, Kelly all won a massive variety of events multiple times. Their achievements are at least the equal of Armstrong's if one considers racing days and the need to race as much as they did.0 -
What, you mean like Obama's opponents had to 'prove' that he is a 'socialist' and a 'Muslim'? :roll:rockmount wrote:
The difference is, they would have to prove it !RichN95 wrote:No chance. The muck-rakers in US politics make David Walsh look like Lorraine Kelly. They'd rip him to pieces and he knows it.0 -
TheYorkshireMan wrote:Didn't Merckx win around 500 pro road races? Anyone know how many Armstrong won in addition to the 8 everyone knows about?
If you are asking about the last 5 years, then its a trick question. "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
SpaceJunk wrote:dennisn wrote:iainf72 wrote:Hi Dennis
Can you tell me when Lance last won a bike race?
You miss my point completely. A person can race or work at a job for as long as someone is willing to hire them.
Of course, he runs his own team, so it wouldn't have been hard to pass the job interview. And let's be honest here, HIS return might be about riding a bike [although at some crazy point in time he mentioned it was for the cancer cause], but those around him are only motivated by one thing:
making money through his name.
Plain and simple.
Couldn't agree more. And your point is? I like money. Who doesn't and if I can make it doing something I like(bike racing, whatever), well, all the better. As for people making money THROUGH his name. Every celeb in the world has hangers on like that. Nothing new.0 -
Looks like Nike "BELIEVE" in LA and see this as a good opportunity to make some more dosh!
Maybe they don't know about the whole scandal thats been about for the last few weeks
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site ... ewsLang=en
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Doobz wrote:Looks like Nike "BELIEVE" in LA and see this as a good opportunity to make some more dosh!
Maybe they don't know about the whole scandal thats been about for the last few weeks
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site ... ewsLang=en
FWIW I doubt that too many people, who are involved with cancer, cancer awareness, suffering from it, or have people they know suffering from it, really care much about
some SCANDAL in cycling. It's not even on their radar screens. Cycling SCANDAL as
compared to the problems of the world doesn't even register, on any scale.0 -
dennisn wrote:Doobz wrote:Looks like Nike "BELIEVE" in LA and see this as a good opportunity to make some more dosh!
Maybe they don't know about the whole scandal thats been about for the last few weeks
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site ... ewsLang=en
FWIW I doubt that too many people, who are involved with cancer, cancer awareness, suffering from it, or have people they know suffering from it, really care much about
some SCANDAL in cycling. It's not even on their radar screens. Cycling SCANDAL as
compared to the problems of the world doesn't even register, on any scale.
very true!0 -
dennisn wrote:Cycling SCANDAL as
compared to the problems of the world doesn't even register, on any scale.
So, if,. say, Lance went down for doping - Would it be sports sections now or front page news?
I ask you to remember Tiger Woods before you answer. Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Ok ok ... let's call the whole thing off, after all little bertie deserves it for the Sidi ads and the corny victory gestures !El Imbatido wrote:Splottboy wrote:One of the youngest triathlon champs.
One of the youngest World Road Race Champs.
7 times, yes, SEVEN Times Tour de France winner.
Was given the "Last Rites" due to his well documented illness.
Fathered numerous kids, with one testicle !!!
Founder of a huge cancer awareness/fund raising charity.
( Hang on..does he wear his underpanys outside of his trousers? NO?
Well he bloody well should...)
Let's see, any OTHER World Class sports people - never mind cyclists - got a CV like that?
No, Zip, Zilch, Nada, Zero, Nuffin even close to it.
Alberto Contador
1st Paris-Nice 2007
1st Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 2007
1st Tour de France 2007
1st Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 2008
1st Vuelta al Pais Vasco 2008
1st Giro d'Italia 2008
1st Vuelta a Espana 2008
1st Volta ao Algarve 2009
1st Vuelta al Pais Vasco 2009
1st Spanish Time Trial Championshios
1st Tour de France 2009
1st Volta ao Algarve 2010
1st Paris Nice 2010
1st Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 2010
...........
+lots more to come (also this list does not include stage wins or high places in other races which he has by the bucketload)
While racing in the Tour of Asturias in 2004, he collapsed to the ground almost like Tom Simpson with severe convulsions. Doctors said that he had a congenital problem with an artery in his brain and they called it cerebral cavernoma. He currently takes epileptic medication for it and did not return to cycling until the following season.
He visits sick children in hospitals quite often http://www.albertocontadornotebook.info/media2009.html
So id say he has infact a very good CV, one that is going to improve in coming seasons as he has said he wants to do the Giro next year and has given strong indications he wants to do the Vuelta this year. He has also said he would like to persue some of the classics in the future.
But ofcourse Splottboy there is no way that his palmares live up to winning the same race 7 times :roll: and then taking the rest of the year off..........
And there is no way he is a great role model and ambassador for the sport :roll: ..................... who said that, internet forum people ?0
