Just back from MTBing in the Peak District....
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Some better signage, discreetly done as in France might perhaps help.
Maybe some grading of the routes so people know what lies ahead, and discussions / liaison with our motorcycle friends over trail preservation - The Beast is a good example, although fully appreciate it's for all to use.
Oh and leaving the gates open on the Hagg Farm descent!0 -
Radixmatrix wrote:Some better signage, discreetly done as in France might perhaps help.
Maybe some grading of the routes so people know what lies ahead
For me this would take away the 'remote' feeling of the Peak District - one of the main reasons I choose to travel there than go to a trail centre - whats wrong with using a map and exploring? Not knowing what lies ahead is all part of the fun
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Always difficult to tell from pics or vids how steep or difficult the terrain is, but I like this video I've found, looks a good ride.
Was going to go to the Lakes at some point of the year with my bro but may try and persuade him to try here first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVJFcGyUl2U
How would I tackle this rocky stuff? Same as everything else, flat pedals, seat down into compromised position, standing up in attack position regardless of length of descent and whether using a HT or FS.
Simples.
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jacobs ladder hardtail, the comment a few mins in is hilarious!
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capoz77 wrote:jacobs ladder hardtail, the comment a few mins in is hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_GPT4SmvM&NR=1
Not been round JL yet, I think I'll have to go down that bad boy, that looks stupidly fun.0 -
attack it y'-hanbag.0 -
poppit wrote:Just interested on a professional basis, is there anything anyone can suggest to improve the riding in the peak district?
join more things up so there's greater flow and longer stretches and open more stuff up, get creative.0 -
"i need full suspension without a shodow of a doubt" LOLLololololo
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capoz77 wrote:"i need full suspension without a shodow of a doubt" LOLLololololo
just needs to loosen up, start switching and twisting the lines, you should have brain and eye ache from concentrating the first few times you do it on a decent hardtail, not much else really0 -
and make sure you're confident with your tyre choice so your front end steering is rock solid stable. ....even more so when it's greasy / wet0
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blister pus wrote:and make sure you're confident with your tyre choice so your front end steering is rock solid stable. ....even more so when it's greasy / wet
find my 2.3 conti vertical pro's perfect for this kind of decent (there more like 2.1 when pumped up) really fast flowing. Although i can imagine it would be more comfortable with some dirty 2.5 swamp things 8)0 -
you'd be amazed what you can get away with dropping the pressure in some 2.0/2.1s lol.0
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i used to run the conti's @ 35 psi FAIL
recently dropped to 28psi and its 100% better0 -
One of the comments we've had is that there are great trails for beginners/families i.e. high peak/tissington trails then there's plenty for experienced riders i.e. jacobs ladder/cut trail, etc but not much in between, so for those wanting to learn skills in a safe environment, particularly young people, there isn't much. It gets more relevant as body coordination skills in young people are pretty poor at the moment.Eddy Merckx EMX-3
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High peak is a nice ride for famillies or just to bang some miles out. This is the thing the Peaks is not a trail centre, i'd class the Ladybower loop better than a black run at most trail centre's. Drop the Beast in at a trail centre and see how many people cope with it! Too many people are riding trail centre rides and think they are mountainbiking god's. If you want a safe enviroment take them to Sherwood pines pretty fast flowing singletrack and a nice downhill section.poppit wrote:One of the comments we've had is that there are great trails for beginners/families i.e. high peak/tissington trails then there's plenty for experienced riders i.e. jacobs ladder/cut trail, etc but not much in between, so for those wanting to learn skills in a safe environment, particularly young people, there isn't much. It gets more relevant as body coordination skills in young people are pretty poor at the moment.0 -
clioterus wrote:
High peak is a nice ride for famillies or just to bang some miles out. This is the thing the Peaks is not a trail centre, i'd class the Ladybower loop better than a black run at most trail centre's. Drop the Beast in at a trail centre and see how many people cope with it! Too many people are riding trail centre rides and think they are mountainbiking god's. If you want a safe enviroment take them to Sherwood pines pretty fast flowing singletrack and a nice downhill section.poppit wrote:One of the comments we've had is that there are great trails for beginners/families i.e. high peak/tissington trails then there's plenty for experienced riders i.e. jacobs ladder/cut trail, etc but not much in between, so for those wanting to learn skills in a safe environment, particularly young people, there isn't much. It gets more relevant as body coordination skills in young people are pretty poor at the moment.
Wasn't so much thinking about your normal trail centres, perhaps there's some form of hybrid solution that would fit into the Derbyshire 'offer'.
What about track improvements, any suggestions? Any tracks that need a bit of work to make them more rideable?Eddy Merckx EMX-3
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Derbyshire already offers some of the best natural riding in the country. I have just looked at your link and assume you work for the council? Please don't go into the peaks and sanitise the trails! Too many trails are being hardpacked and as a result are becoming boring.poppit wrote:clioterus wrote:
High peak is a nice ride for famillies or just to bang some miles out. This is the thing the Peaks is not a trail centre, i'd class the Ladybower loop better than a black run at most trail centre's. Drop the Beast in at a trail centre and see how many people cope with it! Too many people are riding trail centre rides and think they are mountainbiking god's. If you want a safe enviroment take them to Sherwood pines pretty fast flowing singletrack and a nice downhill section.poppit wrote:One of the comments we've had is that there are great trails for beginners/families i.e. high peak/tissington trails then there's plenty for experienced riders i.e. jacobs ladder/cut trail, etc but not much in between, so for those wanting to learn skills in a safe environment, particularly young people, there isn't much. It gets more relevant as body coordination skills in young people are pretty poor at the moment.
Wasn't so much thinking about your normal trail centres, perhaps there's some form of hybrid solution that would fit into the Derbyshire 'offer'.
What about track improvements, any suggestions? Any tracks that need a bit of work to make them more rideable?0 -
Yer, have to agree. I pretty much hate all trail centres... I do use 'em, but rarely these days. I'd HATE to see any sanitisation of the Peak. I can understand trail maintenance where needed (Whinstone Lee Torr!) But keep everyones needs in mind.... Beast is Brilliant, Jacobs is too, so are Rushup, Roych etc.... I dont want to see them get smoothed over.
The fact parts are tough is good, because you always have that will I/ wont I... and if you havent cleared a bit, go and do it again.
Cutgate is a good intro to riding in the Peak, fairly easy climbs with not too much of the rocky stuff. Descent down to the stream at Slippery Stones is a classic. And coming back, the route (starting from Langsett) gives you a great long fast flowy descent off Mickeldon edge. 8)0 -
Agreed, there's already a ton of 'family orientated' 'beginners' 'intermediate' loops and routes available that are year round popular without the need for needless sanitisation of the more challenging stuff.
You just need sane balanced judgement and decision making in leaving the natural rough and ready stuff as god intended and the occasional necessary maintenance patching (as required) in keeping with. You certainly don't kill the primary and unique attraction of the areas loops for the bulk who use it year round or live here.0 -
The thing is you don't have to ride the gnarly stuff.There are plenty of easier tracks around the Dark and White Peak.There's the Trans-Pennine Trail,Tissington and Monsal trails and the Limestone way.There's plenty of "in-between" stuff around Ladybower/Edale etc .
Having said that the only way to progress and get better is to have a go.
I'd hate for the repairs to go like some of the trails in the Lake District where they've just put rock steps in.Great for longevity but not for riding up :roll:0 -
nice. I have driven through the peak district once and would love to take my bike up there, looks good0
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the peaks are certainly tough riding, but very rewarding. They're also punishing on bikes!!! dent's and chips galore.... If I was buying secondhand I'd be looking for a southern bike not a northern one LOL0
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Going to the peaks again this coming weekend!!
Who can recommend me a couple of trails, apart from ladybower and Jacobs ladder which i'vealready done??
Looking for something fairly technical and difficult, maybe in the 'white peak area' as i've not done much there so far.
something from this site below would help me plan the weekend easier.
http://www.mtbsharp.co.uk/routes/peaks/index.html
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If you want difficult, try Cavedale, just in the white peak, and you can tie in with dark peak stuff.
This may also be of use...
http://www.mountainbikerides.co.uk/rout ... trict.html0 -
There's a couple of books out there by Paul Evans and Jon Barton. Dark Peak Mountain biking and White Peak mountain biking - they're a good place to start if you're willing to, like, buy books and stuff.0
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Tartanyak wrote:There's a couple of books out there by Paul Evans and Jon Barton. Dark Peak Mountain biking and White Peak mountain biking - they're a good place to start if you're willing to, like, buy books and stuff.
This.
Absolutely essential reading for the Peak...
Personally the Hope Triple 8 is still one of my favourite rides - I'm sure there's a map and guidance online for it.0 -
We went down Cavedale yesterday and it's certainly dry - however I walked most of it again, but hubby flew down without dabbing once. Go hubby. I find it challenging enough just to walk down with a bike, let along ride it!
My favourite descent on that same ride (it's the Bradwell circuit route in aforementioned guide book) is Bradwell Edge - technical and narrow (and lots of overhanging brambles - look like I've been self-harming over the weekend) but I rode pretty much all of it and it was great fun 0 -
meesterbond wrote:Tartanyak wrote:There's a couple of books out there by Paul Evans and Jon Barton. Dark Peak Mountain biking and White Peak mountain biking - they're a good place to start if you're willing to, like, buy books and stuff.
This.
Absolutely essential reading for the Peak...
Personally the Hope Triple 8 is still one of my favourite rides - I'm sure there's a map and guidance online for it.
thirded, great book, only improvement would be to use proper OS mapping on the route maps but otherwise they're fantastic0 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVJFcGyUl2U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_GPT4SmvM&NR=1
