Coed LLandegla
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but they're bloody ruts! You're riding off road. What do you expect,, tarmac?0
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Well said. I can understand if it is on your doorstep then it is ideal for a quick blast. As i said before it wasn't worth the mileage. I am bored of riding around the same routes in the Peaks so on the back of MBUK Wales special thought it may be worth a trip down. I can fully appreciate the work which has gone into building the trail's and facilities and the good it does getting more people into the sport. As of riding faster i attacked the trail when i was there.Dirtydog11 wrote:the zoo wrote:I don't understand why people moan about Llandegla. I did a couple of laps on Sunday mornin and thoroughly enjoyed it. If you love The Peaks, ride The Peaks. I do. But don't ride Llandegla and then complain that its not The Peaks. And on the one hand its like tarmac, but on the other hand its too rutted?
Oh come on. Sounds like route snobbery is alive and well.
I agree its not too challenging, but if you think its dull or boring maybe you should ride faster? I've a mate who complains its boring and coincidently he's either lagging behind or wrapped round a tree.
A ride's a ride. Some are better than others. All of them are worthwhile.
You might have moaned had you have done a 220 mile round trip based on a magazine review.
In this case it sounds to me as though the magazine review overly raised the OPs expectations.
I would agree about the ruts, especially the ones just before the first set of black tabletops. I agree that Llandegla is fast and flowing well those ruts/potholes absolutely kill your speed into that section.
In fairness many of the ruts/potholes are a result of the particularly bad winter they endured this year but I'd have thought they would have filled them by now and restored the flow! There's a lot of trail building going on at Llandela at the moment but it seems to be at the expense of some of the original red and black sections.
I'll really look forward to riding there it once its finished.0 -
Dirtydog11 wrote:To be honest, we get a facility like Llandegla then criticise it when really we should be grateful its there at all.
Perhaps the most pertinent point made in this thread!
Early Orange 5, Felt Z85, Scott Thicko, modified Giant full suss (both nicked)- beat-up single-speed rigid 1992 Saracen (scrapped), and various 2-wheelers with big engines0 -
Personally i,d be moaning about MBUK !
I,ve never ridden Llandegla but i,m due a trip to North Wales towards the end of this Month, i,ve already made the decision NOT to ride Llandegla just from whats been posted on here and in other posts, There seems to be a lot of critisism on this Forum about the place for one thing and another.
I,ve got to be Honest tho i could have travelled for a thousand miles and wouldnt have complained about braking ruts....................... thats just absurd !
Again !
Elsewhere on this Forum i,ve just read that a track leading up snowdon is gonna be partially tarmacked !
WTF ! If enough people moan about rutted MTB trails being rutted maybe we could have all the trails Tarmacced :shock:
Are you a Lycra wearing Roadie in Disguise !
Or even worse a Lycra wearing MTB'er0 -
Just read about that, it's only parts of the lower Miner's path, which were hardpacked gravel anyway. To be honest, I'm indifferent about it.newclearbomb wrote:Elsewhere on this Forum i,ve just read that a track leading up snowdon is gonna be partially tarmacked !
WTF ! If enough people moan about rutted MTB trails being rutted maybe we could have all the trails Tarmacced :shock:
The sheer numbers of visitors made trail maintenance up there a real bugbear anyway.
As for llandegla, it's getting tamer and tamer as time goes by.0 -
yeehaa.
I understand what ur saying about the lower sections but it's the first mile and a half that's gonna be made accesable to mobility scootays and kids with buggies that have parents attached to them !
I've brought people off mountains in some right states ! Flip flops ! Stilettos an all manner of I'll fitting clothes ! I'm kind of indifferent but can't help think it's inviting people into a false sense of security !
Any way back on topic ! Ur local ? U know the area a lot better than most !0 -
Yes, local. The lower, easily walkable section is probably more than a mile and a half in length. Seriously though, the surface that was there already is the kind of thing you find on cycle paths, so it's a big fuss over nothing in my opinion. Just a way to save on trail maintenance in the future.
I don't think there's any way to stop people trying to go up in flip flops, they're basically mental, and nothing short of over medicating them will help, so if this harder wearing surface stays in good condition for longer, then it should be a good thing, far less people twisting their ankles and so on.
Hang on, when you said local do you mean to Llandegla, or Snowdon?0 -
I meant Snowdon ?
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yes, it's a few minutes down the road 0
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Phew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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what? :?:0
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lots of people say this, i'm local and probably wouldent travel to get there, however theres plenty of good riding outside the trail centre if you want to make a day of it, head out onto the moors via the boards or down to the nearby qaurries but its hard to link it all up without commiting to either a very long XC loop (unavoidably with a fair ammount of cylepath/fireroad/footpaths and roads) or returns via the same trail.
i've been working to find and link the best trails in that area for a while and will supply an annotated map when the project is complete....with the riding time i get at the moment this will be sometime around 2015.....
the best i can offer at the moment is an all dayer starting at wxm station and ending at ruabon station which includes a full loop of Llandegla, this has the advantage of cutting out some of the roadwork and ending near a cracking real ale pub so you can leave the car at home and let the train take the strain 8) if anyones interested PM me and i'll scan a map in and send a link.0 -
yeehaamcgee wrote:what? :?:
Sticky situation involving where people live !
I had just summised that you were from the Snowdon area ?
As i,ve said previously, I,m up that way shortly, decided on my two rides for the Sat & Sun now i,m wondering if i can get there to ride this place on the Fri Evening :?
at least that way i get to see what all the fuss is about ! AND i get to form my own opinion.0 -
If you're in the area, it's definitely worth a blast, it's pretty good fun. But I certainly wouldn't suggest someone travel for several hours JUST for that.0
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i went llandegla yesterday for the first time and was a bit annoyed at the amount of climbs but i think overall it's a great day out. it's about an hour for me to get there which is good. my local place(delamere) has no singletrack or tracks like in llandegla. all i go there for is 4x, dh and freeride and some jumps as it's 14mins away by train so i can't complain. next time i go(should be this sunday) i will try to really push it on the descents as i didin't know what to expect. i will also drink and eat energy stuff before hand as the climbs are gruelling on a hardcore set up hardtail. and the addition of a chain guide and a lighter front wheel very soon, i think it will be a more pleasent ride
the fr/dh area they are builiding looks super fun. mahoosive table tops, big drop etc. will be giving it a go when i get myself a dh/fr bike.
also on the skills area map it says there is a nort shore section? i was trying to find it but had no luck .
me and my brother will try and get to marin or penmachno asap as it looks very good as well/.0 -
Marin is a very different trail to Llandegla, it is far more natural, and "old school". The single track they have there is stunning, but personally I don't think there's quite enough of it.
Oh, and if you thought the climbs in Llandegla were gruelling, you are in for a whole WORLD of hurt when you try the Marin trail - I warn you.
It's pretty much right in the heart of Snowdonia, where there are big, real mountains.
Llandegla, by comparison, is as flat as a pancake.0 -
oh, hahha. basically i have only been riding 4x and dh for the past 5 months so this was one of the first times in liek half a year that i did some proper climbingyeehaamcgee wrote:Marin is a very different trail to Llandegla, it is far more natural, and "old school". The single track they have there is stunning, but personally I don't think there's quite enough of it.
Oh, and if you thought the climbs in Llandegla were gruelling, you are in for a whole WORLD of hurt when you try the Marin trail - I warn you.
It's pretty much right in the heart of Snowdonia, where there are big, real mountains.
Llandegla, by comparison, is as flat as a pancake.0 -
I actually have seen a grown man give up and start crying on the climb in the Marin trail though 0
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yeehaamcgee wrote:I actually have seen a grown man give up and start crying on the climb in the Marin trail though
i was beating a buch of grown men with 2grand full sussers so i think i don't think i did too badly
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Curiously, I've actually passed a few lycra clad XC warriors on the "climbs" in Llandegla. On the wolfridge.
I don't know if they were the mid-life-crysis types, but they certainly had all the gear.
Maybe folks from NW Wales just don't deal with hills on a regular basis?
I mean, I SUCK at climbing. I really do.0 -
stiffee_rider wrote:sparrowlegs78 wrote:I like Llandegla...so there :P
the fact that right at the end, after miles of climbing, we just ended up on the blue and then a road back to the car park! We wondered if we'd maybe missed a sign somewhere but someone in the caff thought they were re-routing the end of the red - to be honest, their time would be better spent fixing up the trails they have got if that's what they're doing.
OTOH, the black sections were fantastic fun (once you got away from the ubiquitous rut) just not really long enough to justify a return trip. CyB on the other hand...
Agree witht his bit, I rode Landegla three times before I realised I hadn't done the red route :oops: Everytime I got to the end I thought blimey I must be fitter than I thought. Sadly I was that busy thinking "wahey, this fun" that I repeatedly missed the very discreet fork to the left that splits the Red from the Blue. I always picked the Red up again near the end where the Red and Blue cross so got a good finish. The fourth time I went I just whizzed past it again, so I've only actually done it once. I'm going tomorrow after work because it's easy to get to and get around and I'm determined to get half fit before I have a week off in September and have a bash at Coed y Brenin.0 -
All those in the Warrington and surrounding area should go to the not very far away Peak district.... An d do some 'real' MTB'ing...
I rode at CL, Penmachno, and CYB for years.... Then I got bored and rode the Peak... Barely been to a trail centre since. MUCH better riding, and a much better rider for it. 8)0 -
As aboveratty2k wrote:All those in the Warrington and surrounding area should go to the not very far away Peak district.... An d do some 'real' MTB'ing...
I rode at CL, Penmachno, and CYB for years.... Then I got bored and rode the Peak... Barely been to a trail centre since. MUCH better riding, and a much better rider for it. 8) Trail centre's are ok if you are out riding with your mum and dad! Seriously some black routes are no better than tarmac trails.. 0 -
I did see one bit in Llandegla where the red suddenly forked without warning.... The route carried on to the left... I went right and slammed on the anchors.... Looking down at the skidmarks on the trail, I wasn't the only one.
What happened with the red at the end? I suddenly found myself on the green/blue as you pass the pump track and there's loads of building work going on. Did I miss anything?
I think there's value in riding trail centres and finding routes in the wilds.... It's certainly nice not to have to dodge dogs and joggers at Llandegla.0 -
Erm, yes. You missed the red left turn again.
There's a right hand hairpin, after which the red cuts through the forest to your left, or the other runs continue straight on, around the pump track :roll:
How do you.....
Just... WHAT?
When visiting somebody's house, do you often enter via the window because you missed the door?0 -
yeehaamcgee wrote:Erm, yes. You missed the red left turn again.
There's a right hand hairpin, after which the red cuts through the forest to your left, or the other runs continue straight on, around the pump track :roll:
How do you.....
Just... WHAT?
When visiting somebody's house, do you often enter via the window because you missed the door?
Actually, the red bit at the end has been gone for months. The freeride park is being built where it was.
All the trails now share the same ending.
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Are you serious? What the fark?0
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As above the red end section has been closed for months as you get to the new free ride park, lots of riders end up coming in to the top car park when you should stay on the track keeping the park to your left.
You then have a fast flowing section back to the back of the café, this part (blue) has always been better to finish than the last bit of red.0 -
oh, I used to love dropping off that bridge thing. right at the end
(the braking bumps were beyond beliefe though, there wasn't much of a trail left there)0 -
I suspected I missed nothing because of all the construction, just making sure that was the case... Could see where the confusion arises with people coming back on to the carpark and missing out the last section. I had been forewarned about that because I read a thread on this place and watched a couple of vids on Youtube.
As I came down the sweeping corners on the blue/green end I remember passing under a wooden bridge and all that area was being resurfaced. So maybe no more braking bumps for a bit?
MBUK have an article about the place including a ride of the new sections in next months issue, I'll probably check that out.
Sound like I'm promoting now... Just read it in WH Smiths when you're buying Razzle.0
